matador
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
I feel asleep.
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Post by matador on Dec 24, 2022 3:14:55 GMT -5
matador I'm gonna check out Steamy Bathhouse, it looks like you did a great job with it Cool, I look forward to hearing what you think about it. |
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on Feb 6, 2023 12:23:15 GMT -5
IcarusLIVES mentioned 10x10 in his video about 2022 Cacowards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 13:19:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 16:47:56 GMT -5
Goddamnit Contra, I thought something interesting was happening.
HOW DARE YOU.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 12:55:05 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint, @wereknight, I heard it on the radio, and it reminded me of this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 13:02:11 GMT -5
I was actually thinking about the fact that Gibbon was banned from Doomworld last year, and it made me realize something.
Here's a guy that has produced so much content for the Doom community, and apparently that doesn't come into consideration when they banned him.
I'm sure the people responsible for banning him probably have a pitiful little contribution they can claim for the community which pale in comparison to what Gibbon has produced.
I don't know the details of why he was banned, but if it was because he didn't say or believe the right things, that's just retarded.
IMHO, if you produce content, that's worth 100x more than any of your personal beliefs. That's what is supposed to matter in this hobby.
I don't even give a shit that they banned me, but I always thought my work would carry me along. But since Gibbon was banned, who has produced more than me, I guess it never mattered in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 14:25:10 GMT -5
I was actually thinking about the fact that Gibbon was banned from Doomworld last year, and it made me realize something. Here's a guy that has produced so much content for the Doom community, and apparently that doesn't come into consideration when they banned him. Because, frankly, a person considered as valuable when he does not attempt to deviate from the estimated "community opinion" that have nothing to do with community itself, it's just a projection of the will of entitled cunts which, given any suitable opportunity will throw each and everyone under the bus, including their own kind. It's not necessary if excuses for ban are true or not, truth means nothing for them and so for the crowd that serves them as a "community of the forum". I'm sure the people responsible for banning him probably have a pitiful little contribution they can claim for the community which pale in comparison to what Gibbon has produced. Some of them indeed are. One of them have had a total meltdown and stalked timeofdeath in there, showing how low the once better members of doom community can fall. I don't know the details of why he was banned, but if it was because he didn't say or believe the right things, that's just retarded. the only person that knows details is Gibbon himself, you could ask him in PM or discord given the opportunity but, you know, he have a right to say no word at all. IMHO, if you produce content, that's worth 100x more than any of your personal beliefs. That's what is supposed to matter in this hobby. True that. I don't even give a shit that they banned me, but I always thought my work would carry me along. But since Gibbon was banned, who has produced more than me, I guess it never mattered in the first place. For who are in charge of both gzdoom forum\discord and doomworld the modding scene achievent are indeed matter not. What do they value is how much of AIDS riddled "girl" penises you suck off dry. |
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Post by 40oz on Mar 8, 2023 14:59:21 GMT -5
I respect the proposition that one's contributions to the doom community gift economy outweigh personal beliefs.
When you have a community, youre free to run it any way you want. And I do respect the need to keep the community safe for marginalized groups. I understand it despite the fact that those with an interest in driving social change would not find anything remotely enlightening in a xenophobic kill-everything-that-moves shooter like Doom.
When you run a community, you dont have to answer to anyone. You can treat the people any way you want even if its unfair. Theyre your followers and you can kill off your group any way you want and no one will stop you.
Which kinda sucks for doom because the doom IP doesnt belong to anyone here or on doomworld. As long as Doom has people interested in it, people will eventually find the community, even if it sucks and is oppressive to participate in. I think this gives both the doomworld moderators AND myself an inflated sense of self-worth. Yes theres people here on my forum but I didnt CREATE doom, after all. Who am I to say whats best for the doom community?
The doom community (in terms of its role in banning and accepting community members) gives everyone a fair chance. Anyone with an email address has the right to join and participate in the community. But after that, you start from zero and theres only negatives from there.
Post is resurrecting a dead thread? -1
Posting too fast and too often? -1
Post has poor grammar? -1
Post is 'edgelording'? -1
Post is rude/combative? -1
But regardless of what you do in the community, nothing really counts in your favor. Whether its making maps, music, art, reviews, source ports, reporting news, beta testing wads, running events, managing projects, writing tutorials, or just being a good friend to someone, none of this really counts for anything. If you are docked too many community guidelines' points, they always have grounds to ban you. The fact that people do anything useful at all is a mystery to me because there is no incentive to do it.
The community is destined to steadily become more and more boring because the safest way to secure your place in the community is to never participate in it.
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Post by xeepeep on Mar 8, 2023 16:18:10 GMT -5
If I was running a forum, I'd have a separate ban policy for Doom-related and non-doom-related forums. So if you're being a retard in the off topic forum, you're banned off of it, but you're still allowed to post maps and shit. Or even if you're just "politically incorrect". I understand why most people here are undesirable on Doomworld but banning them altogether from the whole forum is stupid imo. Don't like the guy that says YWNBAW in every post? Alright ban him, but let him post his maps ffs. What did the maps/sourceports/textures/dickpics do? Doomworld used to do this btw, back when it was based. Sgt Ender got that treatment I think. Wonder what happened to that guy. Also gggmork. Post is resurrecting a dead thread? -1 (etc) all of these are rules for a reason, and breaking them should come with a "-1". Just because a community doesn't welcome 5th grade dropout retards who can't engage in a conversation with adults, it's not necessarily boring. As for double-posting, on this forum shorter posts take up a LOT of vertical space, relative to their content, especially if a given member has a signature or a status. When you add up like 3-4 of them, things like scrolling become unnecessarily annoying. |
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Post by JadingTsunami on Mar 8, 2023 16:45:57 GMT -5
I don't know the details of why he was banned, but if it was because he didn't say or believe the right things, that's just retarded. Here is a recap. 1. Gibbon gets into an argument over Doom 64 in an "Doom General" (EDIT: Linked thanks to the excellent memory of matador) thread. While not heated there are clear disagreements. 2. Gibbon receives a warning, allegedly referring to his behavior in the Doom 64 thread as "low brow trolling." 3. Gibbon requests a specific development thread closure in apparent retaliation for what he saw as a stifling of his opinions via the warning above. Gibbon warns that mods should expect "more closures." 4. Mod(s) respond by locking all of Gibbon's development threads. 5. Gibbon voices complaints about how the situation was handled and is banned. The surviving evidence is mostly here.Points of dispute: - A mod claimed that there was "unanimous" agreement in the mod channel to ban Gibbon. It's unclear what this means in any detail or what process is or was followed here. - A mod claimed the blanket thread closures were not punitive but were intended to carry out the logical conclusion of Gibbon's wishes after he told the mods to "expect more closures." - It is implied at one point that Gibbon's ban was due to a pattern of "shit stirring" behavior involving Gibbon overreacting or outright lying about events involving moderators. No supporting evidence of this claim was provided beyond what was outlined above. |
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matador
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
I feel asleep.
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Post by matador on Mar 8, 2023 18:43:33 GMT -5
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Post by hex11 on Mar 8, 2023 22:25:17 GMT -5
There was a thriving Doom community long before doomworld existed. Look at all the classic megawads and other cool stuff that were made before 1997. And a lot of people didn't even have Internet access, at least not directly. So it's not like you have to be a member of a forum where users are forced to walk on eggshells.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2023 9:55:56 GMT -5
I think I developed the attitude that Work/Contributions > Personality/Beliefs from working in the real-world for the past two decades.
I remember having colleagues who were miserable, miserly, unfriendly and condescending. But they did their job, and they did it well. That's what mattered most, and to me that was a powerful concept.
I'd rather work along side someone who was personally an asshole, but did their job well, than a friendly incompetent person.
But a component of that attitude is that I didn't go to work to make friends, I did it for money.
Perhaps the fact that there isn't a money-component to all of this, is why content creators are under valued, and nonsense like your position on social issues matters more.
These are people that have come to this community to make friends, rather than make content for Doom.
Now why is it that I make content for Doom, if it is not for money, and not necessarily to make friends? (Which I have and I am welcome to)
I think it is because I dream up a concept, and if I don't do it, it will never be realized.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2023 10:25:26 GMT -5
I think I developed the attitude that Work/Contributions > Personality/Beliefs from working in the real-world for the past two decades. I remember having colleagues who were miserable, miserly, unfriendly and condescending. But they did their job, and they did it well. That's what mattered most, and to me that was a powerful concept. I'd rather work along side someone who was personally an asshole, but did their job well, than a friendly incompetent person. But a component of that attitude is that I didn't go to work to make friends, I did it for money. Perhaps the fact that there isn't a money-component to all of this, is why content creators are under valued, and nonsense like your position on social issues matters more. These are people that have come to this community to make friends, rather than make content for Doom. Now why is it that I make content for Doom, if it is not for money, and not necessarily to make friends? (Which I have and I am welcome to) I think it is because I dream up a concept, and if I don't do it, it will never be realized.I think it is fine that people come to the Doom-community to make friends. But now it seems like people with those intentions matter more than people like Gibbon for example, or other talented and prolific people which have been banned for violating some kind of social etiquette. That's political, and ultimately hurts everyone that wants to just play a cool mod, or use a great tool. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2023 10:52:02 GMT -5
Well, we actually had some people whom will not be named on this website who did create content well, but also tried to use it to justify a social engineering and culling of the population. But thankfully, they seem to have lost the culture war here. It is a pity, because they did make good stuff, but they tried to bury other content creators that didn't satisfy their social etiquette.
The funny thing is, the people they seemed to want out were perfectly fine co-existing. But that wasn't reciprocated. But the majority of that contingent left on their own volition.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2023 11:25:16 GMT -5
I will also give them their due, yes, AUGER ZENITH > DPB:48.
DBP 48 beta tester:
Nevertheless, I still commend the people who helped make it. But it never should have been an official DBP in hindsight.
I may be an asshole sometimes, but I think I am a fair person for the most part.
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Post by deathevokation on Apr 7, 2023 12:41:37 GMT -5
What a time to be a part of the doom community..  |
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 7, 2023 14:15:47 GMT -5
I want an LGBTQ person to incite violence upon me
A T, specifically
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Post by deathevokation on Apr 7, 2023 15:07:13 GMT -5
I want an LGBTQ person to incite violence upon me A T, specifically I'm just enjoying the fact that the Magician retweeted that. |
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dn
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the motherfucking darknation
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Post by dn on Apr 7, 2023 17:58:29 GMT -5
Groomer's statement about totes not being a pedophile guis can actually be read to the tune of a linkin park song. To everyone wondering about me:
As it currently stands, I have been forced to leave the doom community, as well
as most of my social media. I have lost contact with many of the people I used
to interact with on a daily basis. I've been spending many days in isolation,
in the dark about what is happening on the other side, and over time, as things
evolved, I have felt that my mental and physical health have been progressively
deteriorating due to it all.
This is not a proper statement regarding the initial allegations against me, as
that will come later once I am prepared to show myself in public again. This is
merely an update on how I am feeling and what I am doing about it.
What has happened recently has made me realize that I have deep-seated problems
regarding my behavior online, both through my direct interactions with others
and through how I present myself and my work. This is something that has been
happening for almost all of my life, and comes as a consequence of the way I
have developed mentally and emotionally through my experiences on the internet.
It is a serious problem that I need to fix, and I genuinely need help
addressing and correcting it.
I hope that people to not take everything said about me at face value, as there
is far more to the situation at hand, and there are bad actors involved. Being
shunned, condemned, insulted, isolated, that is all that the people attacking
me want. They want to silence me and anyone who tries to support me. Their
ultimate goal is to cause harm, and nothing else.
Still, I deny the accusations against me of pedophilia and grooming. Despite my
own problematic behavior that I have been made fully aware of and have come to
terms with, these are things that I could not possibly ever do. No matter how
much all is distorted, no matter how hard they try to make me doubt myself and
my own memory, I know deep down that I simply couldn't do something like that.
It is true that I have a problem with boundaries, it is true that I have a
problem with oversharing, and with not realizing what is and isn't appropriate,
and that is something I have already taken the initiative to solve. While I may
not have done anything illegal, I've done things that are undoubtedly immoral.
I am truly sorry, for all the things I have done, all the people I have
inconvenienced, all the people I have made uncomfortable, and who had to see
that side of myself without wanting to. I am especially sorry for betraying the
trust that many people had put in me. What I have done is entirely
irresponsible from my part, and I am more than deserving of punishment.
There are people I am still in contact with who have been supportive and I am
immensely grateful to them, they've served as a little sliver of hope in the
darkness of my mind, something calming, and reassuring. Without any of this,
the complete isolation I would have suffered would have been unbearable.
When the time is right, when the storm has passed, I only hope that I can be
given the chance to speak, and to let myself be judged fairly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 20:18:49 GMT -5
Idk anything about this guy to comment. But this is what I think should be done to pedophiles, consider it a statement of fact:  |
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Apr 7, 2023 20:24:02 GMT -5
"It is true that I have a problem with boundaries, it is true that I have a
problem with oversharing, and with not realizing what is and isn't appropriate,
and that is something I have already taken the initiative to solve. While I may
not have done anything illegal, I've done things that are undoubtedly immoral."
This first half of that paragraph tells us that he admits to the accusations himself. Otherwise, why would he disable comments on his YouTube videos if they were just false accusations?
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dn
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Post by dn on Apr 7, 2023 22:48:06 GMT -5
She never had a real childhood girlhood guys, she's just making up for LOST TIME by noncing on your kids in discord, they're basically the same BRAIN AGE bigots.
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Post by ketmar on Apr 8, 2023 3:13:12 GMT -5
as much as i don't like those "woke persons", i'm still standing on the "court decision or gtfo!" ground. show me the criminal record first.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 4:20:28 GMT -5
as much as i don't like those "woke persons", i'm still standing on the "court decision or gtfo!" ground. show me the criminal record first. We really can't this time, his grooming activity was done while he was in Spain, a country where the age of consent is 13. Although legal action can be taken, since he tried to molest minors who were not from Spain. |
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