Doom community happenings

For posterity's sake, this was the entire post. Nothing goes unnoticed by me. By the way, look at all those registrations and lurkers. It's almost like they're trying to help this site.

here's some archive.ph links in case any juicy drama gets baleeted

archive.ph/M4hgU
archive.ph/pk0It

YES!!! I will grill some shrimps for this occassion!


Endless got a few things wrong, though. Doomworld has actually got more toxic - instead of less - in recent years. With the recent changes in moderation team, the toxicity went up to eleven. I also never seen anything that suggests DW is inclusive. The truth is that Doomworld has been an outlet for  powerfreaks (DW staff members) for years, who cultivated in regular members the tendency to sycophancy and passing - without any careful thought - judgement on other people, and has a long track of non-transparency, shadowbanning, random policing etc.

Also the Obsidian must have been on crack writing that post. I will quote it in its entirety and highlight stuff for the lulz, because THE ACTUAL FUCK: - who cares if contributors are banned somewhere or not? People's opinions are irrelevant when considering their artistic contributions.
- per Obsidian's (or actually staff opinion), DBPs needed permission and compromises to stay posted on DW. Doesn't even bother to hide it.
- who demands people sign up to DBP? Maybe I put a gun to their head around some dark corner at night and demand them to register?[/p]

- another vanity outburst: releases grab people's attention. Goddamnit, that's fiendish!

- Oh yeah, there are must be some kind of DLC releases of DBP in "Doomer Boards Project" subforum. It is a development subforum, does what it says on tin and nothing more.
Nevermind that the reasons behind DW bans are highly debatable, the moderator in question tries to hide that doomer boards actually started as a forum to continue discussions that were banned on DW when Trump got elected, and (what is not even hidden) the glaringly obvious fact that DW staff wants to police the whole world - or at least the people who play Doom and consider to communicate with each other or contribute back to the community - by policing DW. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not gonna happen. Were you actually up to snuff, you would become politicians/legislators/whatever the fuck in real world, but alas you are just a bunch of Walter Mitties who would like to police by firepower, but lack the physical training to join the most unfit police unit.

Yes, that's exactly why this thread exists, because the DW admins are a bunch of people who lucked out by investing into Doom back in 90's, now they ran the biggest doom gig and try to gate who, of doom players, can communicate their passion with the rest of dooming community or contribute back for fuck's sake.

And the truth is that everyone who is into Doom should be allowed to communicate and contribute, no matter what's their opinion outside of doom is.

Who would've thought that Major Arlene becoming a mod would be the start of doomworld's downfall

Also revae and @btsxsuckass nice to see you guys here.

You're glad to see a troll? But I'm not sure about revae; it would be cool if it's really him.

Also the irony of DW staff making a regulation and a sticky thread against DB while complaining that a dedicated topic for lambasting DW staff fuckery exists on DB. Like if a regulation you can't object in public (thread by Endless was deleted, and Obsidian mentioned he only will discuss it in PMs) was better than a public discussion started by people who used to enjoy the old DW and were welcome on it.

Anarchy is better than an oppressive rule, even if anarchy is not ideal. If you are offended on doomer boards, you can retaliate or you can even be above it and keep calm; if you are offended on doomworld, you are told to suck up and obey, like if you were a human rights activist imprisoned in China. And they claim doomer boards is a worse place - how? I fail to observe logic behind that claim.

It's also appaling people would perceive a place ruled by fear such as DW as being hospitable or an improvement over the old days, or such measures justified in preventing the brand of toxicity the old DW had. For fuck's sake! If could roll back the time, I would, because the injustice hurts more than a rude or a controversial opinion. But I guess, some people are made of different materia, so they disagree. Their value system is inherently incompatible, is backwards.

Strictly speaking, doomer boards isn't anarchy. However, the rulers rarely interfere, because the position of dn is that admin or moderator should think hard before taking authoritive action, or else he shouldn't be in that position in first place. Unless interference is required, it shouldn't happen. This is considered to be an upside of doomer boards rather than its downside, but once again, see above on people and value systems.

P.S. I also wouldn't trust word of Obsidian he accepts PM discussion of the regulation. Such a PM discussion will probably have repercussions later (veiled behind some warning point and/or obscured by an invisible ban), and then we'll laugh at people who say "Doomworld isn't toxic cesspool, Doomerboards is".

How on earth does someone like that become a mod in the first place?

did anyone catch how many views that topic had before it was deleted? Last i saw, it had 14,000 views 6 hours in.

I can post the maps from the Discord to the thread

joe-ilya we could assume DBPs are allowed now if the thread was deleted. But it's still there. They just don't want any attention after the complaints in Endless' profile thread.

Lmao even better so when someone who doesn't know better posts about DBP, they're going to have to explain it all over again. It will be a reoccurring issue for them in the future. Do these people think things through before doing it?