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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 8:28:16 GMT -5
What kind of people were on that Discord? Did they actually enjoy working on all that crap for real? Terrywads all seem the same and incredibly stupid to me, so I wonder what motivated them to keep making that stuff for years. Does the terrywad crowd see some noticeable differences between these wads that make them interesting? Or was it always about simply annoying people by spamming repetitive garbage? In a nutshell pissing off people or seeing those kind of reactions can be fun. It's similar to why youtube videos of people that review/react even if on purpose to bad video games or movies are so popular.
Memfis have you played any proper terrywad? It's not all repetitive 2-room assrape traps. I mean it kinda is, but it's got a nice story to it, and a lot of work is put into that stuff. I'd recommend that you play the B4NM.WAD that I mentioned, it's on idgames, it's a megawad for Zandronum/Skulltag. Don't be afraid to use any cheat lol. If you don't look at it as a Doom WAD but rather just take it for what it is, you might enjoy it. You seem like the kind of guy that could appreciate that sort of humour lol. My point is, don't judge terrywads by Aquarius199's videos, he reviews literal shit made for the explicit purpose of him reviewing it. Also don't worry about it breaking your computer, it's considered a bad practice at this point in the community, the idgames uploads are confirmed clean too. lol what are those masterpiece proper terrywads? I only ever saw b4nm mentioned though it looks like when it came out terrywads were already dead from a while and existed only as direct submissions to aquarius channel so it's understandable that they want to make b4nm remembered as a sort of a last proper terrywad. I also tried it a bit like 5 years ago, the first time I encountered those kind of "jump scares" behind a corner with those overpowered monsters gave me a chuckle but then it was just the same thing over and over and over. At least there was an effort to make a stupid plot, only for that imo it's better than many of those intentional crappy maps you see in jokewads, but there too many references or in-jokes that only the authors can understand.
This discussion made me curious to see aquarius channel, I think the last time I visited it was 5/6 years ago and I must say I'm kinda amazed that he keeps doing the crappy Doom wads videos in the same fucking format for all these years.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 13:00:17 GMT -5
I actually really don't like the Aquarius channel, I love bad shit like I really enjoy playing terrible stuff because mocking it brings me immense joy to see something try but just shit the bed, it's funny (if you wanna armchair that one, go ahead).
I love D!Zone and all that shit, love me some hot garbage, Aquarius pisses me off because he plays shit either made to be shit or joke wads like "oh my god this terrywad is shit, it said it will rape me to death like how awful" like fuck me ain't that the point? They're not even shit, they're just mockery lol.
There's always a point where he always gets insta killed or some shit and he's like "oh let's try that agian" then dies immediately, what the fuck is different god damn, you died, who saw it coming? What it did they think would happen?
He literally inspired children to make absolute garbage, not shitposts not jokes not terrywads just fucking garbage made to be garbage.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 13:59:44 GMT -5
I feel you mrthejoshmon , I don't like his channel either. It was okay for the first 2 times but every video is the same, everytime he has to pretend to be surprised that the shit he asked for was indeed shit. Checking the catalog I see that at least he also started to do playthroughs of "normal" wads in the past years. But in the end who cares, he's harmless and still have fun doing his niche thing.
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Post by xeepeep on May 10, 2020 17:20:13 GMT -5
Aquarius's videos are indeed kinda annoying lol. He seems lowkey autistic. But he seems like a good-spirited fella, enjoys what he's doing, doesn't stir up drama, and, to my utmost surprise, is a decently capable mapper! He pretty much keeps the community alive at this point, sadly. I also tried [b4nm] a bit like 5 years ago, the first time I encountered those kind of "jump scares" behind a corner with those overpowered monsters gave me a chuckle but then it was just the same thing over and over and over. Pretty much lol. If you don't have "resurrect", "god" and "mdk" bound to keys, it's torture, but if you do, it can get fun. I'd recommend you give it another shot. Also Nambona890's stuff is really good (single levels). There's a lot of cool stuff on idgames actually. Ty was a real one for keeping terrywads in. I love bad shit like I really enjoy playing terrible stuff because mocking it brings me immense joy to see something try but just shit the bed, it's funny Totally didn't expect this from the author of the WOOO series )))))
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 23:53:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't really say I was the author, I just had the bad idea, everyone else had the actual energy to make it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 22:59:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:33:23 GMT -5
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Post by joe-ilya on Jun 28, 2020 23:55:16 GMT -5
He pretty much keeps the community alive at this point, sadly. Thank fuck that isn't true. Because decino.
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Post by xeepeep on Jun 29, 2020 3:07:17 GMT -5
That Easter egg doesn't even look that bad, it's kinda random but I legitimately don't see why are they getting all riled up
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Post by Lobo on Jun 29, 2020 3:31:00 GMT -5
Is "not jabba" a woman?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 4:43:07 GMT -5
I don’t think so, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s a man either. He definitely shows no balls.
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Post by Heavy Blanket on Jun 29, 2020 5:38:47 GMT -5
They are making fools of themselves, I saw much worse secrets and maps on the archive than here. How long it will take forum to crumble down under it's own weight?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 5:55:54 GMT -5
I think they're well within their right to reject it, it's not the item itself that is the issue it is the continued inclusion of incredibly detailed indepth clearly sexualised torture porn that this author absolutely must shoehorn in every mod he makes.
Literally every single one he made.
If this happened in my forum I would totally fuck off someone if in every map they hid something like furry porn or diaper porn or scat ect, get the fuck outa my house with your filth, go jack off elsewhere.
End of the day it is their forum, their rules, their choice to deny bizarre fetishist garbage being shoehorned in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 10:47:21 GMT -5
I am absolutely positive Not Jabba is of male gender, although I do not respect him - and I have reasons for that well before his negative stance on doomer boards became known to me. Specifically, I lost all respect for him long time because of his conduct in this thread: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103663-for-the-love-of-god-stop-speeding-up-monster-projectiles/?tab=comments#comment-1948796Now, I don't agree with OP's point of view (I consider it legit to both do -as a modder - and enjoy - as a player - fast projectiles), but I believe Not Jabba's conduct towards OP was dishonourable, as is his self-proclaimed stance that he is an authority guarding "community standards", aka "community/staff/old-timers know best, and all Cacowards winners are objectively, rather than subjectively, good, everyone should strive for appreciation from Cacowards staff or accept they are losers and their work is below our standards, and thus everyone excluded from grace of Doomworld - banned or refused to ever nominate for Cacoward because his views are unpopular or unorthodox - is a loser". I am of opinion that there cannot be any objective good in doom modding, no objective standards, although of note it is not the opinion that "objective standards exist" that is dishonourable, but rather the stance that "objective standard is what staff defines it to be". I wanted to say "popularity", but it is not strictly true, as candidates for cacowards are only mentioned, but not voted by regular members, thus major vote has no say here. Also, I hate how people can't take a negative review for something they like, or something they made, or disagrees with popular opinion or is directed at something that won for cacoward (note all the distinct cases, they may overlap, but I mean ALL of them). I think players actually rate their experience, the writeup is merely a rationalization of either good or bad experience. You don't really rate a wad.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 10:56:15 GMT -5
How long it will take forum to crumble down under it's own weight? The honest answer - it may continue in this state indefinitely. Things we hate don't fall merely as the result of being things we hate.
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Post by thundercunt on Jun 29, 2020 10:59:53 GMT -5
I`m curious to know about other mods that have been banned because of controversial drama. The only other example I know are the columbine wads
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Post by sosh on Jun 29, 2020 11:05:53 GMT -5
I think they're well within their right to reject it, it's not the item itself that is the issue it is the continued inclusion of incredibly detailed indepth clearly sexualised torture porn that this author absolutely must shoehorn in every mod he makes. Literally every single one he made. That's a pretty interesting way to call Shadowman™'s patented 64-Unit Wide Mazes®.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 11:23:00 GMT -5
Hello sosh, welcome to the Doomer Boards! Would you like to introduce yourself?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 11:28:13 GMT -5
I think they're well within their right to reject it, it's not the item itself that is the issue it is the continued inclusion of incredibly detailed indepth clearly sexualised torture porn that this author absolutely must shoehorn in every mod he makes. Literally every single one he made. That's a pretty interesting way to call Shadowman™'s patented 64-Unit Wide Mazes®. Killer post! I actually enjoyed the mazy and cryptic stuff in Cheogsh 2, but the pun you made is gold.
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Post by optimus on Jun 29, 2020 11:29:30 GMT -5
At least I can look at it and see what the fuzz was all about. Reading some of the comments, shows me the problem with Doomworld (and communities these days in general). Maybe it's the problem that overall culture has changed. It's more common now people to come and virtue signal about how everything is misogynistic and the nerd community were horrible and they need to clean up the bad. Someone mentions Duke Nukem 3D again and some answer are like hissing "Yes,. it was the 90s and it was horrible,. full on board misogyny and that's why there were very few gamers in the 90s, because most wouldn't bear with that stuff!" A stupid point, as in most games you wouldn't even see women tortured, and Duke3D wasn't that bad as they make it, they are women captured by alien tentacles or vines or whatever that was. I didn't thought it back then as designers being intentionally overtly misogynistic, just a part of the plot (or sexual fantasies of the artists). I couldn't see it. And now people can see it. They can look back and think all these gamers in the 90s were horrible, and I am the good feminist ally, etc. While doomworld moderators have the right to do what they want, what bothers me is the general atmosphere of it, seeing comments from most people. Many of them have this smug attitude of "I am better than you, if you still support the 90s ethos maybe you are the awful misygynist". They have this flair, even if it's not clear. And I am pretty sure more people are progressive/feminist leaning so they will hear more and more about this new perspective on game art, some of them will totally agree, some of them will compelled to agree because they must not be put together with the awful gamers but they are the better males. It perpetuates every community nowadays.
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Post by sosh on Jun 29, 2020 11:41:02 GMT -5
Would you like to introduce yourself? I suck at introductions, so... no. Thanks for the welcome, though!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 11:45:58 GMT -5
sosh, your sense of humor is enough of introduction. Welcome to the boards.
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Post by 40oz on Jun 29, 2020 12:52:16 GMT -5
Wtf doomworld? Are you the people that are fucking up the BLM movement by fighting to get rid of Aunt Jemima instead of holding police accountable for murder? I don't like the easter egg, not even a little bit, but this is another example of doomworld using moderation powers without being clear about what they want. Check out these contradicting sentences strung together: huh "We don't want to talk about the topic that we initiated, we just want to bait you into defending yourself against our pre-planned responses to this indefensible gimmick so we can make an example out of you." (There must be a bunch of deleted posts. From searching the page, Jimmy is the only one at this point in the thread saying "cancel.") Be real. Doom is a fucking weird game. Example: Commander Keen is a child hanging from a noose, in which you are barred from exiting Doom 2 MAP32 until you blast him open spilling his guts onto the floor. Yes it is fucked, and it would be fucked up if Doom didn't already have it and someone made it as an easter egg in their mod today. What kind of message is that sending? So let's not pretend that the source material of Doom (and by extension, most classic FPS's that doom modders draw inspiration from) isn't sending mixed messages about what you can and can't do in Doom. There is no initiation process to Doom mapping that says " these are the aspects of authenticity in classic game modding that we unanimously agreed to abandon and we now enforce by banning." How can we be sure everyone knows this when it's doom that brings people to the doom community and not the world around it? I agree with the overall message of doomworld that being in tune with current day social issues is better for everyone, and really, it's just a waste of energy and also potentially harmful to debate. The path to change is to extend a friendly hand to that person and talk about the essence of the message in hopes that exploring it will allow the author to see the problem themself. (I made this same argument about the last doomworld topic we had here, remember?) I also know that when I'm in a bad mood, I can look at something absolutely beautiful and still get fixated on a small part of it that sucks. We have to get ahead of that. It's crippling to the to Doom community to turn doom modding from a vast blank canvass of interactive creative expression into " actually, we are binding you to some very poorly defined rules about what you're not allowed to do." I can't imagine the future of doom modding being very fun when doomworld shines the infamy spotlight on a singular easter egg of a mod as if to say that every other aspect of the mod and it's author are now conducive to political propaganda. No one's asking for that. tl:dr Feminism is awesome, torturing women sucks, but seriously, by doomworld's logic, everyone in the doom community is now a violent racist chauevanistic ignorant scumbag just by proximity. Join doomer boards instead so you can be whoever the fuck you are.
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Post by dn on Jun 29, 2020 14:51:31 GMT -5
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In the rich man's house, the only place to spit is in his face.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 16:46:38 GMT -5
So let's see what all these pussies and incels are up in arms about. Must be pretty bad. I mean, for some video game graphics circa 1994 to rile people up like that it must be pretty offensive. ::Sees pic of terrible offensive horror:: ibb.co/tDGxRG9Wow, that's it? Really? Lara Croft, fully clothed, on a cross. No blood, no gore, no tits, no vag. Ok. Seriously, these whining SJWs are literally begging to be offended by something. They've managed to read the maximum amount of hateful intent into something that was probably meant as a cute joke and nothing more. I read their posts and just cringe. To them, the guy who did this obviously hates women(and probably blacks and LGBTQIA++s, because their lives matter apparently), and jerks off three times a day to rape and snuff porn. Dude, it's a fucking secret area in a wad you can download for free played using a game engine made in 1993. But don't stop until you've scoured the entire internet of anything that might offend someone, except the stuff you agree with. That all gets to stay. And yeah, I'm not arguing the whole free speech thing since it's their forum or archive or whatever and they can host what they want, but good god, this wad is obviously really high quality and someone who probably couldn't design a wad even half as good is complaining about a total non-issue as though the mere sight of it would cause every heterosexual male to instantly rise from their computer chair and rape every woman in a 3-mile radius.
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