Aisleen
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Post by Aisleen on Feb 8, 2019 7:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by optimus on Feb 11, 2019 3:08:19 GMT -5
Woooow!
p.s. Not sure I've played Sunder. I heard they are really tough.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 22:21:29 GMT -5
Sunder is one of those wads that I love to look at but honestly don't much like playing. It feels like something I should be getting paid to play, or perhaps a challenge wad that if you complete it you get a free steak dinner at a fancy restaurant. I mean, there's "kinda hard", there's "Ghouls 'n Ghosts hard", and then there's "Why the hell am I frustrating and angering myself for no reason playing Sunder?" hard. No hate towards it whatsoever though. Sunder is clearly a fantastic creation and it deserves all the praise it gets. But for me it ventures away from the realm of a "fun, enjoyable game" into the realm of an elite life challenge that you force yourself through so you can impress your friends or whatever.
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Post by Justince on Feb 12, 2019 11:24:13 GMT -5
I'm with you Vordakk. Sunder is gorgeous and epic and all those words, but holy fuck what a chore. I'll play part of a map here and there and quit after that. Playing the entire thing would be like doing 10 sinkloads of dishes.
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Post by optimus on Feb 12, 2019 15:36:33 GMT -5
I've just tried and I was like nope. I mean, I did kinda well in the first level without much savespam and at the second level I ended up without ammo and still 50 revenants to kill. Then I idcleved at various levels and there was one with over 4000 monsters. Shit!
It's not that it's impossible, I just sometimes like to play Doom in a more relaxed manner, and I can still be good with tough situations but not like that. Maybe I prefer classic Doom maps that have some nice environments, atmosphere, oldschool gameplay. Not my taste but a lot of Doom players seem to like that kind of slaughtermap (and that's the most insane I've ever seen, first level archvilles with shotgun, Cyberdemon, second level many archiviles, two Cyberdemon (that escalated quickly =)) while I prefer something more relaxing with great atmosphere and environments.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 16:18:25 GMT -5
+1 like for the above posts... Sunder sure is pretty, but I couldn't even slog through it with cheats on. As I've said before, there is an audience for this kind of thing, but I'm not in that audience.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 21:27:49 GMT -5
These are the kinds of wads that co-op was made for!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 0:17:37 GMT -5
These are the kinds of wads that co-op was made for! There’s a point... Doomshack ZDaemon Sunder co-op sesh when?
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Post by optimus on Feb 13, 2019 3:24:41 GMT -5
At least there were more things announced in the community
I am happy for Deus Vult, I remember I liked the last one. And also BTSX is gorgeous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 5:21:07 GMT -5
This is the screen that intrigues me most from BTSX E3: It’s just otherworldly.
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Post by thundercunt on Feb 13, 2019 10:50:52 GMT -5
meh, BTSX seems like a all-star reunion of great mappers to produce boring "avant-garde" maps. It's kind of dissapointing to see these fantastic mappers doing something this dull and harmless
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 14:16:34 GMT -5
It's hard to truly enjoy slaughtermaps and extreme challenge wads if you don't play Doom 24/7. It will be interesting to see how the new Sunder turns out after all these years have passed, many wads copied its style and the challenging gameplay has evolved since then. It seems that many fans of Sunder also agree that its gameplay is flawed. Maybe it's better to continue it in another wad. That screenshot looks nice but it looks like your average overdetailed boom project. It doesn't look like Sunder. If you had told me that was Ancient Aliens I would have believed you. meh, BTSX seems like a all-star reunion of great mappers to produce boring "avant-garde" maps. It's kind of dissapointing to see these fantastic mappers doing something this dull and harmless Wtf? BTSX is very far from being avant-garde. Good if they start to do that more for E3. This was less prominent on E2 because also the mappers started to have fun apparently, but overall BTSX has a very unified design philosophy that tries to be as straightforward as possible, has the perfect flow, resulting in being too rigid that it hampers itself.
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Post by Justince on Feb 14, 2019 14:21:04 GMT -5
meh, BTSX seems like a all-star reunion of great mappers to produce boring "avant-garde" maps. It's kind of dissapointing to see these fantastic mappers doing something this dull and harmless I keep forgetting to play this. Why are they talking about "EP3?" I thought the rest of it was still unfinished.
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Post by Justince on Feb 14, 2019 14:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by optimus on Feb 14, 2019 16:49:03 GMT -5
Wow, that's a great article! I ended up reading (and in between, researching some of the information) instead of doing anything else I was planning to do in the day It's rare that a mainstream gaming site writes such a good in depth article on Doom, most of them are like they discovered there is actually a Doom community and mostly focused on mods rather than maps.
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Post by Justince on Feb 15, 2019 0:12:50 GMT -5
www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104583-the-elon-musk-fan-thread/Sorry I know this is boring but I couldn't help laughing at this thread. Here you've got Elon Musk's company forwarding the advancement of human kind, but a bunch of douchebags on DW are sitting in high moral judgement of him for calling some nobody a pedo. Hey Mr Freeze, what exactly have you accomplished today? Maybe going 6 rounds of slapping the 'ol tubesteak to Krystal from Starfox? Lol blow it out your ass you fucking stooge.
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Post by optimus on Feb 15, 2019 14:12:32 GMT -5
I guess, because Elon Musk has criticised the mainstream media and from my observation it became political, so more SJWy types will hate him now, and maybe DW is leaning more to that side (I fucking hate that twitter avatar among others, who think communism is cool). Of course it doesn't help he called the guy a pedo (never call someone this, it's no joke). I know, Elon is a special character, he is kind of a myth, I don't know whether he is Steve Jobs style (pretending to be genius figure on the outside but really others doing the nerdy work) or he is more of an engineer and how much is he a true geek involved and how much a PR person. He is an interesting character anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 16:11:45 GMT -5
I really don't know how to react to that thread. Calling the guy who is about to send us to Mars an idiot? I thought Doomworld can't surprise me anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 20:01:54 GMT -5
I really wish Everything Else would simply be closed down entirely. Maybe just make it about "General Game chat" so that non-Doom games have a place to be discussed. I get wanting to avoid irritating political threads but why the heck aren't people allowed to share different opinions on Elon Musk, especially when it's totally civil? I just find that such a weird and arbitrary thing to censor. Oh well.
Also gotta love how Mr Freeze makes sure to pop into EVERY Duke Nukem thread EVER to make damn sure that every last soul on Doomworld knows that Duke Nukem is an EEEVIL franchise that is only enjoyed by EEEVIL people..
Nothing is just allowed to be stupid, low-brow comedy anymore, even when it fucking sells itself as stupid, low-brow comedy. If that seems like something you don't like, you're free to avoid it, dumbass. There SHOULD be a time and place for low-effort, stupid, chest-pounding comedy but certain people just want to wipe it off the fucking map. Their sensibilities are all that deserve to be catered to I guess?
You gotta love that everyone wants every goddamn character to be a role model. My big question is, WHY? I'm just gonna lay it out plain and simple, if you're looking to fucking Duke Nukem for social guidance or notes on "how to treat women" or whatever else then you're a fucking idiot and should probably seek psychiatric help. The character is not designed as a fucking social teacher, he's designed to be a meat-headed over the top stereotype that makes you laugh with his dumb one-liners (so long as your heart isn't cold, black and shriveled from your inability to laugh at anything anymore. I know mine would be if I viewed every character ever made - even the dumbest, shittiest ones - as fucking role models, and as a result forgot how to laugh at dumb humor.)
Let those of us who enjoy dumb meathead comedy just enjoy it please. I mean sure, you can rage over your keyboard all you want, but I'm worried that enough drooling dipshits doing this may result in censorship. "Your little feeble brain can't comprehend that this is a fucking joke and that Duke is NOT a role model, we better hide it away and keep you safe!"
Thinking Duke Nukem is a fun and funny game doesn't make a person evil. I pwomise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 20:16:26 GMT -5
Also gotta love how Mr Freeze makes sure to pop into EVERY Duke Nukem thread EVER to make damn sure that every last soul on Doomworld knows that Duke Nukem is an EEEVIL franchise that is only enjoyed by EEEVIL people.. I must have missed something. What's wrong with Duke Nukem? I know they all hate the original Shadow Warrior because of the voice acting(which was probably the best part of the game if we're being honest), but Duke? Why? I guess because he's a masculine white CIS male that has sex with women, maybe? Also, because I brought up Shadow Warrior I'll pose this question. Why has the adjective "Oriental" been deemed racist by SJWs? Serious question. The word isn't derogatory in any way. The word "orient" derives originally from Latin, meaning "rising" or "east"(since the Sun rises in the east.) Thus, someone or something that is "Oriental" would simply be "from the East". How is that a nasty thing to say? I really don't get it. I don't get my balls in a twist when someone calls me a Westerner, because I do in fact hail from the West. www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-tsuchiyama-oriental-insult-20160601-snap-story.html
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 23:28:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 5:07:32 GMT -5
Also gotta love how Mr Freeze makes sure to pop into EVERY Duke Nukem thread EVER to make damn sure that every last soul on Doomworld knows that Duke Nukem is an EEEVIL franchise that is only enjoyed by EEEVIL people.. I must have missed something. What's wrong with Duke Nukem? I know they all hate the original Shadow Warrior because of the voice acting(which was probably the best part of the game if we're being honest), but Duke? Why? I guess because he's a masculine white CIS male that has sex with women, maybe? In the more modern Duke game he honestly seemed like a piece of shit, a lot more douchey and a lot less funny compared to the Duke 3D version, who was more just a macho guy who wanted to save the chicks and the world. That was just one of the sucky elements of the more recent Duke game. You really have to reach to find Duke 3D particularly offensive, not so much with the newish one.
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Post by Phml on Feb 16, 2019 6:06:57 GMT -5
I really wish Everything Else would simply be closed down entirely. Maybe just make it about "General Game chat" so that non-Doom games have a place to be discussed. I love EE. It became such a stereotype of itself, you could scramble the poster names in the "cool" crowd and hardly see a difference. They're so perfectly locked in with each other in their opinions. Elon Musk bad! Media good! They ALL thought Elon Musk was awesome until the Twitter cave rescue, then they ALL turned their opinion 180°. Nothing short of amazing. Still, fraggle wins the thread for getting all up on his high horse and calling out "Silicon Valley types"... Last I heard, didn't he work for GOOGLE???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 7:01:58 GMT -5
The Elon Musk thread is already locked rofl I didn't know that being critical and careful about media is bad thing with all the clickbait, bullshit, and FAKENEWS crap that get pushed. And not that being critical of media is a bad thing per se. I rarely visit EE but I was surprised to see how much it changed, I guess that those of you that visited DW longer than me will notice it better. Not that I care so much about EE and I think that avoiding certain topics that will unavoidably end in shitstorms isn't a bad idea, especially after seeing how some discussions about Doom turned out lately (and how some users are over-argumentative in a bad way). I must say that I somehow miss the fun of those old hot discussions. Threads get helled, some people would get a new stupid custom title (now it seems that only friends of the staff get them) and overall the whole place felt more lively. Now there is... the random image thread? wtf? This is the kind of trash that was on the way to post hell right after it was posted.
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Post by xeepeep on Feb 16, 2019 7:17:13 GMT -5
a new stupid custom title Holy shit I can't remember when's the last time I saw someone getting one
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