agent6
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Post by agent6 on May 22, 2018 1:20:58 GMT -5
I think a few loud insufferable arses don't speak for entire communities, come on now you know better than this, they are representatives of their own twisted sects. I say that you keep posting projects there until they decide physically stop you, if not out of personal interest then just out of defiance. If you want me to then I'll post them there, gladly, until forced to stop. Yet somehow, it's those twisted sects that seem to be the most vocal out of the entire DW community. At least there are some people that didn't mind the new maps the folks here made when the DW thread was posted. (though I was obviously absent from this project for moving reasons) Also isn't that dildomaster guy actually Fisk? That happens on pretty much any community (seeing a small group being the most vocal), I've been there before. You know the saying, small minds are always the loudest.
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Post by deathevokation on May 22, 2018 8:53:21 GMT -5
Honestly, I wouldn't have leaked this if I wasn't so tired of getting reminded that this smug circle jerk and these people exist every few weeks for the last year whenever there's an especially spergy/cruel conversation about my friends and myself here... I'm tired of this... I'm tired of hearing how "irredeemable" we are... I'm tired of being slandered as being alt right and I can't ignore that what they're advocating for behind the scenes will limit the audience for mappers and will starve the potential mapping pool so that less new mappers and players will find out about the monthly projects hosted here (as if you aren't already doing enough by spying and blackballing this place by recruiting and "warning" newer mappers who sign up here to stay away with misinformation in the first place).. If Ling decides to delete the threads, fine.. that's his forum, but at the end of the day Maecaek, Grain of Salt (Fu is Grain of Salt, btw), Fisk and co; you're behaving like such a bunch of petty and spiteful kids for lobbying for such a thing.. what is with all this vitriol towards 40oz? He's never spoken about any of you this way yet you've dehumanized him to the point where his status is beneath that of vermin, where he's literally walking Encyclopedia Dramatica incarnate with no redeeming qualities who hasn't done a good thing in his life and everything he says is in bad faith and everything he thinks is bad, every attempt at black humor he makes is taken at face value.. why do you carry on when he doesn't post there anymore and when he's apologized repeatedly for things he's done over a year ago? You've got such a low image of him that if a Doomworlder makes a subpar map in one of your glorious "1 map in 1 hour" projects it's called a speedmap, but if he designs a 7 map project in a month featuring carefully selected custom textures and music based around a central theme, featuring authors from Valkiriforce, Supercupcaketactics, noisyvelvet, Phobus, anonimvio to joe-ilya as well as designing 3-4 of his own maps, then he's spamming wads... and as if accusing his posts to be done in bad faith wasn't bad enough.. now you're accusing his maps be made in bad faith... just... fucking... lol... look at yourself Maecaek you cold blooded psychopath.. you do realize that 40oz is still a human being with all the shit you're lobbing at him.. right? Every single person involved in this chatlog, btw; thanks for contributing to destroying a great game with your grandiose sense of moral superiority, your self righteousness, your elitism, your subversive and counter productive underhanded vendetta and your overcompensating for your lack of personality with your gimmick of being an activist.. because activism and wokeness really needs to be shoehorned into a gaming community surrounding an ancient niche game! Seriously.. this would be the best way to destroy a community if the goal of the community was.. I dunno.. aimed at making good and varied content and keeping the actual game alive? It's such a shame that the forum direction is getting steered in the direction it is because of the kind of people in this chatlog... also stop with that fucking garbage that you don't want alt righters and Nazis there, because there's literally no "alt righters" or "Nazis" that you've banned. I'm not so sure I'd have invested so much time in a community if I knew that it'd be infiltrated by snakes like Maecaek who puts on a respectable face in public and then turns into a vitriolic, vindictive and spiteful prick when he thinks no one is looking.. imagine being a "Doomer" lobbying for perfectly fine and well received bite sized mapsets to get taken off the site or "scrubbed" of any context.. who makes a gimmick mapset based purely on using the ugliest texture possible for mappers to flex and practice their skills and then having the nerve to say that 40oz's maps aren't proper maps and that "the place shouldn't be advertised to"... just... who do you think you are that you can decide such a thing, anyone knows that linking a project to it's origin is common courtesy and good etiquette if it's posted by a third neutral party, and that in doing so gives context to the project. Said context shouldn't be redacted just because some narcissist thinks thinks a bunch of people are beneath him. You've already proven yourselves to be slanderous liars by trying to double down on "alt right" forum, anyway.. so why not tell us all about how 40oz totally runs around swinging that banhammer and smashes Xenos scum with it, such a hypocrite! He banned a guy that Ling banned 40oz for not banning quick enough.. a guy whom 40oz exchanged multiple pms with to try get him to change his behaviour along with an entire forum trying to tell him what he was doing wrong, the kind of guy that if someone brought up in a hypothetical against 40oz's initial statement at the time any sane person would laugh and call it a strawman... a guy who was celebrating someone else dying in a memorial thread, who used said death and our platform as a means to try torment a prominent, well respected and crucial member of the Doom community who contributed an invaluable amount to Doom and accused him of murder... and even if the person Sarais was harassing was the opposite of how I described him, we'd still have banned him because no one should have to endure the kind of creepy stalking and bullying Sarais was doing, especially after losing someone that was dear to them... no one on Doomer Boards deserved to witness this creepy behaviour and it was ruining the atmosphere of the forum. If we didn't ban him you'd be harping on about 40oz keeping him... just like you were doing right up until 40oz banned him. He ended up banning Sarais when the guy Sarais was victimizing told 40oz in a PM that he was starting to worry about his safety all while myself, dn and a few others in a private chat were putting 40oz under extreme durress to make an exception. It was the ethical thing to do. I can't believe I actually have to explain this, I can't believe looking out for Doomworld member could be twisted into a bad thing. Giving someone who lost someone dear to him peace of mind... "Nice1 lol". Other than that, 40oz banned a troll account that was breaking the terms of service for this site by impersonating a Doomworld member as well as a troll account that signed up specifically to flood the forum with sexual content (violating ToS for this site) with thread titles that were slandering Doomworld moderators with accusations of rape (again, violating ToS for this site).. will someone please think of the troll accounts! If you're really going to attack someone for abusing the banhammer then you're going to have to try harder than that, desu. Thanks for sharing, deathevo. Not sure if I should be worried but I hope this "leak" doesn't result in any bad consequences for you. This post means a lot to me, so no.. thank YOU.. and well, even if I do get banned... I really don't want anything to do with people who have one face in public and another in private, so I'm happy showing my contempt for them in the open and will accept the consequences. I think a few loud insufferable arses don't speak for entire communities Except for the fact that it's often whoever is in the chat at any given moment who gossips like this whenever the topic is brought up, and it's been ongoing almost nonstop for ages now... they've done case studies on almost everyone including yourself, Joe Ilya, Memfis and Glen.. You are right, though in that there's a lot of great people that post on the forum exclusively, and some that use Discord, though... and the mapset had a warm reception afterall, it's why it'd be a pity if the elitists in this chat log get more influence than they deserve. haha, well if you want to know what the context was, it was your upload to Idgames over here.. Because no one ever shitposts in their idgames uploads, ever... you're supposed to take that textfile 100% serious, no one has ever wrote "insects, beetles, butterflies, ants" under "known bugs", ever. 100% serious stuff! Take everything at face value. I also like how Dildomaster 666 projected "666" on your name.. his perception of you says more about him than it does about you.
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Post by 40oz on May 22, 2018 9:16:14 GMT -5
if the goal of the community was.. I dunno.. aimed at making good and varied content and keeping the actual game alive? If these people aren't going to do it, then I will.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 10:07:36 GMT -5
I think a few loud insufferable arses don't speak for entire communities Except for the fact that it's often whoever is in the chat at any given moment who gossips like this whenever the topic is brought up, and it's been ongoing almost nonstop for ages now... they've done case studies on almost everyone including yourself, Joe Ilya, Memfis and Glen.. Case studies? Now my interest is peaked, what could possibly even be in said case studies? This sounds so incredibly lame it actually doubled back and became amazingly interesting in terms of the level of cringe I experienced just thinking about it. I kind of want to know what is in those "case studies", what kind of autism is this? That is so next level loser that I have reserved my place in my home made noose just for them because they clearly need it more than me (that's a joke, obviously).
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Post by Heavy Blanket on May 22, 2018 10:54:10 GMT -5
Man, I'm also interested in those studies, because it sounds like privacy invasion and collecting data without person's permission is illegal in the most normal countries. Anyway, I think, I'll stay more in those facebook groups and discords, where shit like this rarely happens.
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Post by deathevokation on May 22, 2018 11:16:54 GMT -5
No no no... it's not collecting data or anything, I'm just being cynical with the spastic way a name gets brought up and discussed, it's bizarre seeing people you don't know sharing their opinion of you.. that's all.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 11:32:41 GMT -5
No no no... it's not collecting data or anything, I'm just being cynical with the spastic way a name gets brought up and discussed, it's bizarre seeing people you don't know sharing their opinion of you.. that's all. Aw, and here I was thinking there'd be a 40 page manifesto lying around.
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Post by deathevokation on May 22, 2018 11:42:23 GMT -5
There's enough lines on anyone to fill 40 pages.. trust me.
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Post by 40oz on May 22, 2018 12:32:41 GMT -5
Aw, and here I was thinking there'd be a 40 page manifesto lying around. It couldn't be as insidious if it was as available and focused as a written document that you can access freely and read on your own time. This isn't the government we're talking about here, this is just a group of disgruntled people that spent a long time creating an alliance between each other and building up a nice reputation in the community for a happy and caring attitude for all people that they don't actually have. Random people start getting ban sniped off of doomworld and no one knows why, or people start believing in some bullshit that was all embellished or made up in the first place, and people actually believe all we care about is rainbows, cartoons, and impossible gameplay. On this forum, people tell it like it is. We care about being honest and up front with each other because honesty and integrity is a trait that everyone should value. But most importantly, we care about Doom. I make maps. I encourage other people to make maps. I compliment people who do great work, and test and offer feedback for people who are still trying. I find roundabout ways to turn normal conversations into something about Doom. I'm fucking obsessed with it. It's all good if you want to have your own friends, its even fine if you want to make fun of other people outside the group. I really don't give a shit about that. I'm here in the Doom community to play great maps, make cool stuff, and help others that ask for it. That's what you guys should be here for too. It's not worth participating in this fake fucking war they're waging against this place because making Doom into a cool and fun community is not what they want. I don't know what they want at this point really, but it's definitely not that, and that's what's so fucking irritating about all this.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 16:27:24 GMT -5
I've told you before but I'll say it again: I <3 u deathevo :-) Thank you for your post, you redeemer of the faith you. I'm also touched that those cunts care enough to shittalk my cunty self like I'm something special. I'm not sure about the "good" side of Marcaek: I don't frequent discords and ircs and such so I rely on what is on forums to determine the character and personality of community members, and going by that Marcaek has always been a top notch first class cunt with no redeeming features, especially his maps. Fuck his maps suck so much and bore me to tears. His maps give me the impression that he hates everyone and enjoys their suffering. I enjoy to press F10 and Y mere seconds into his maps.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 16:36:56 GMT -5
I'm quite sure that the comment that triggered this latest event was made on purpose, and I must say that I'm glad that it was promptly deleted from DW. Idk what to say exactly, I just think that this whole situation sucks for everyone...
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 1:16:18 GMT -5
We shall be evermore courageous! Stand tall and proud and come out of every hardship stronger than you were before!! o>
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Post by joe-ilya on May 23, 2018 1:25:40 GMT -5
haha, well if you want to know what the context was, it was your upload to Idgames over here.. Because no one ever shitposts in their idgames uploads, ever... you're supposed to take that textfile 100% serious, no one has ever wrote "insects, beetles, butterflies, ants" under "known bugs", ever. 100% serious stuff! Take everything at face value. I also like how Dildomaster 666 projected "666" on your name.. his perception of you says more about him than it does about you. I was just quoting spongebob, lol, they're reading too deep. TBH, I find the fact that they shit talk about me in private, kinda cute, kinda stupid, in an entertaining way because they don't say that to my face like Decay and Dew which I've grown to like since I've talked to them levelheaded on Discord servers. Heck, Demonlogist even gave me positive feedback on my Caina map.
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Post by GRUG on May 23, 2018 3:27:04 GMT -5
[11:56 AM] esselfortium: "from your friends" [11:56 AM] esselfortium: no, fuck you
Here's my response to Esselfortium. Warm regards, - The Doomerboards community
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Post by deathevokation on May 23, 2018 5:13:23 GMT -5
I'm quite sure that the comment that triggered this latest event was made on purpose, and I must say that I'm glad that it was promptly deleted from DW. Idk what to say exactly, I just think that this whole situation sucks for everyone... Maybe.. although her doubling down in the chatlogs showed a very clear intent, I wasn't going to weigh in on her post in the project thread since I assumed her deleting it meant she took it back and it was just a kneejerk post. @glenzinho thanks for the kind words m8! I really appreciate it! I needed to read that. <3!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 5:44:04 GMT -5
No probs bro! I appreciate the way you can see through bullshit and describe it in the way things actually are. I’m not sure about the death part, but you definitely evoke clarity. Keep keeping it real yo
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 5:45:29 GMT -5
I wasn't going to weigh in on her post in the project thread since I assumed her deleting it meant she took it back and it was just a kneejerk post.
You can't delete your own posts on DW, only members of the staff like admins and moderators can. Unless there's something I'm unaware of.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 5:53:34 GMT -5
About the deleted post, and I definitely don’t want to take credit here, just present a timeline: post was made. Roughly 15 minutes later I posted that screen cap. Maybe another 15 minutes after that but not much more, that post was history and dildohead was calling himself a retard. Dildohead’s post in chat log suggests his post was edited for him. GoS usual mode of operation is to blank out her posts with a period. Facts. Draw your conclusions.
I’ll go first: someone with admin/mod powers over there didn’t want GoS stirring up shit out of basically nowhere in a thread that had already peacefully existed for almost 3 weeks. Valkiriforce innocently popped his head up there to mention that his map had the wrong music and he had reuploaded Circle of Caina to Doomshack to remedy the issue. Shitfest then begins, and the BoredOfThoseTypeOfDoomers crew (that’s us, hi Ma!) lived happily ever after.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2018 9:20:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 9:24:40 GMT -5
Yeah I'd have loved to visit there; must've been fun!
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Post by Justince on May 23, 2018 11:24:49 GMT -5
I’ll go first: someone with admin/mod powers over there didn’t want GoS stirring up shit out of basically nowhere in a thread that had already peacefully existed for almost 3 weeks. Sniping people and back-door trash talk is oh-so ladylike. Not at all behavior you'd expect from a rival male or anything.
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Post by xeepeep on May 23, 2018 12:42:34 GMT -5
they've done case studies My gossip-ish ass simply feels compelled to ask, did I ever draw their attention? ...also why are YOU in their irc chat? Maybe you're a dOuBlE aGeNt?????? UHHHH quote is directed at deathevokation, ProBoards sucks
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Post by deathevokation on May 24, 2018 2:42:31 GMT -5
My gossip-ish ass simply feels compelled to ask, did I ever draw their attention? I can't remember if they said anything about you, tbh. ...also why are YOU in their irc chat? Maybe you're a dOuBlE aGeNt?????? W-what? Who blew my cover!? hahahaha I mean I don't know what you're talking about!
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Post by Aisleen on Jun 2, 2018 22:58:17 GMT -5
If any of you are interested in the Doom wiki (.ORG, not the wikia thing), here's a month in review.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 9:56:56 GMT -5
Doomworld goes retro with an outstanding quality old style thread reminiscent of when that place was fun. Get it while it’s fresh: My Dexter wad for ZDoom and GZDoomCould we get this Hans dude over here somehow? I’d love to cunt him up!
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