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Post by agent6 on May 18, 2018 8:54:57 GMT -5
donations. I think there's a very safe and fair way to get money from people who are willing to pay without putting barriers in front of people like you too. This is by far the best option to gain something from contributing to the community of a game without doing precisely what you mentioned. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 12:22:56 GMT -5
I was showing a coworker some maps I made recently and they were amazed. They asked me what the fuck I'm even doing here in this office. They told me I should check out this freelance work website called Fiverr. It's becoming pretty mainstream for people to make viable living or sidejob doing things they have the time and ability to do but isn't being applied in their normal line of work. This is exactly me. People who want to play my stuff for free are still very near and dear to me, so I'd make sure people like you still have access to my stuff. But with microtransactions / donations / and monthly payments becoming more mainstream, I think there's a very safe and fair way to get money from people who are willing to pay without putting barriers in front of people like you too.
No we don't care... where's this week "Guess the wad"??!!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 12:47:57 GMT -5
<--- open for pixel art commissions straight from scratch and donations ohoho.
I just make maps as a form of artistic expression and to make some of the best most awesome stuff for my favorite game that means a lot to me (which is Doom btw) and amaze everyone including myself.
The sooner I make all the maps I want to make the sooner I can retire from mapping lol. Until the next time where I feel like opening the editor again for whatever next idea I get.
To make a megawad, or not to make a megawad... that is the question.
Also as I said in that DW thread I wouldn't take mapping commissions ever unless it was for a million dollars. Pay mappers back in feedback and critique 8-)
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 19:26:40 GMT -5
I feel like privately contacting someone to commission a map or midi or whatever is just fine, the thought of it becoming a trend is kind of gross but I doubt that will ever happen what with all the free content out there. Some of the suggested price tags I've seen in that thread are absurd though tbh, I would feel fucking disgusting asking someone more than $50 for a decent sized Doom map made to some specification. Hell, even that much is overkill in my opinion unless we're talking about a Mechadon-tier map. I don't think the "well most jobs pay $15 an hour!!" argument holds much weight because this isn't a job, it's someone slipping you a couple bucks for you to do something fun. But hey, people can use their money however they like. You'll never see me charging anyone for anything Doom based nor will you see me paying anyone to make stuff for me but I'd never want to step in the way of people doing as they please with their money and time.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 20:07:30 GMT -5
To clarify my position: you can pay somebody to do whatever the fuck you want them to do if they agree to it, or give money to people for whatever reason. That is beyond question. In regards to money for Doom content: if you can make it, take it, but know you go against the original “understanding” that you can make whatever you want to for Doom with the only requirement being that you own the game and don’t distribute commercial assets. It’s quite simple.
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Post by agent6 on May 19, 2018 8:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 9:26:05 GMT -5
Are you mad lol? But I agree that the "helpful review" feature is lame. And in fact it's a shame that anonimous votes and reviews were disabled, thanks to the fucking spammer, now there are way less reviews done.
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Post by 40oz on May 19, 2018 9:37:03 GMT -5
The whole concept of upvoting/downvoting and liking stuff is a pretty terrible thing in general. Do we really need to have the value of everyone's contributions to the discussion measured where everyone can see it?
Everyone's posts are valuable to me. It seems like it means just as little to like every post in a thread as it does to not like any posts at all. I see myself liking things I don't even necessarily "like" just as a courtesy to the poster.
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Post by agent6 on May 19, 2018 9:56:58 GMT -5
Are you mad lol? But I agree that the "helpful review" feature is lame. And in fact it's a shame that anonimous votes and reviews were disabled, thanks to the fucking spammer, now there are way less reviews done. Nah, not mad at all, just irritated by the trolls who keep on abusing the feature thinking it's fun. |
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Post by NuMetalManiak on May 19, 2018 11:47:19 GMT -5
Are you mad lol? But I agree that the "helpful review" feature is lame. And in fact it's a shame that anonimous votes and reviews were disabled, thanks to the fucking spammer, now there are way less reviews done. I had a feeling it was Carlos downvoting other people's reviews at first, especially mine get downvoted almost instantly after I submit them. At least I am suspecting it's Carlos, as I know what he did on idgames pages in the past and this might be the only thing he can do at this point. Or maybe it really is someone else, possibly Grain of Salt or something. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 12:02:11 GMT -5
I admit that when that stupid feature appeared for few times I "trolled" with the yes/no on some reviews but that's it  , most probably some other users are doing the same but looking around it doesn't seem like a problem, at least I'm not seeing some mass downvotes everywhere. I don't think it's Carlos, if he manages to have the accounts to actually put downvotes he can just use them to spam reviews or threads. |
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Post by Olroda on May 19, 2018 15:53:11 GMT -5
My reviews are downvoted! Perhaps I'm missing something here, because on each of your reviews have results similar to "2 out of 3 finds this review helpful". It seems positive to me. Or is something disabled because I didn't log in? |
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Post by agent6 on May 19, 2018 16:02:19 GMT -5
My reviews are downvoted! Perhaps I'm missing something here, because on each of your reviews have results similar to "2 out of 3 finds this review helpful". It seems positive to me. Or is something disabled because I didn't log in? Nah I don't mind that, not everyone's going to agree with me. I've already said that's not the reason lol. It's these questionable lot of 0/1 reviews and the massive downvotes that bother me. |
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Post by Olroda on May 19, 2018 16:35:19 GMT -5
Ah, the downvotes won't show up for me, but I'll take your word for it! It's not fun when someone does such things "just because". And 40 is reading my mind again, it seems. Do we really need to have the value of everyone's contributions to the discussion measured where everyone can see it? We don't! It is a created need! As I've mentioned earlier, I use that button to show that I agree with what was written rather than "liking" it. I have to admit that I often feel dirty for not typing an answer instead. I see myself liking things I don't even necessarily "like" just as a courtesy to the poster. I just did that with your post, and for the same reason! Heh. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 21:20:37 GMT -5
 Well here’s one post GoS won’t be able to erase and replace with a period. BTW just because you keep saying it doesn’t mean it will ever be true, ya ignorant cunt. |
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Post by TOS on May 20, 2018 1:04:44 GMT -5
Never mind the idiots over at Ultra Progressive World. Their opinions are about as desirable as goats milk.
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Post by agent6 on May 20, 2018 1:57:26 GMT -5
Well here’s one post GoS won’t be able to erase and replace with a period. BTW just because you keep saying it doesn’t mean it will ever be true, ya ignorant cunt. Wtf. "Racists board". Did he go full retard in that post or was that a reference to past incidents? |
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Post by Olroda on May 20, 2018 4:08:46 GMT -5
You are a racist if you don't agree with everything rainbow-haired people say scream, didn't you know? And further, I think it would do well to take its own advice and use its brain for once. But I'm sure they forgot to install that piece of hardware when they screwed on its head.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 4:37:57 GMT -5
I WONDER IF DARKNATION CAN EDIT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS LET'S FIND OUT
MOD ABUSE (not really) |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 5:14:22 GMT -5
Alt-right? I’ll have you know that I only ever use the left alt button on my keyboard thank you very much.
oh and that post? Was deleted very fucken quick, true to form.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 11:32:50 GMT -5
Well here’s one post GoS won’t be able to erase and replace with a period. BTW just because you keep saying it doesn’t mean it will ever be true, ya ignorant cunt. The go-to insult for when you really want to discredit a person or group of people but can't come up with well-reasoned counter-arguments to their points. |
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Post by Justince on May 20, 2018 14:00:42 GMT -5
Why bother parroting entire Vox talking points when you can just hurl buzzwords at people to make them go away?
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Post by 40oz on May 20, 2018 14:32:06 GMT -5
That sucks. I like Grain Of Salt. I've even had a really nice PM exchange with her a few years ago asking her about her project. I'm sure she remembers it. Its a shame people have to keep reminding themselves that they're not judgmental. I already believe you. :/
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Post by deathevokation on May 20, 2018 15:44:33 GMT -5
For anyone who wants to see Doomworld for what it truly is, here you go! I'm posting this on behalf of the mappers who worked hard on both the past and present Doomer Boards projects and because I'm fucking tired of reading shit like this and thinking "wow fuck these people!".. I didn't want to see this on a night that was actually going to be one of the best nights of the year for me, but whatever.. Thankfully I have multiple friends in the discords who are seeing some of these people for the truly spineless, dishonest, weak, spiteful and vindictive cowards they really are.  inb4 before someone actually takes the loli at face value. |
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Post by 40oz on May 20, 2018 16:28:07 GMT -5
God that is some childish bullshit. At least when I have shit to say its right here where they can fucking see it.
I really used to like those people. Seriously, they've done a lot of cool shit for Doom and I really appreciate it, but they're also judgmental assholes when no one is around to see it. I didn't do anything to deserve the shit they say about me.
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, most probably some other users are doing the same but looking around it doesn't seem like a problem, at least I'm not seeing some mass downvotes everywhere. I don't think it's Carlos, if he manages to have the accounts to actually put downvotes he can just use them to spam reviews or threads.
