Bethesda's unfettered pursuit of capital: Capitalism or No?

What holodomor lol?

"Capitalism" is a buzzword, because there's no such thing as "not capitalism". It's like complaining about gravity. You can fall down and climb up slopes, but you can also terra-form in a way that sounds like a good idea, but accidentally results in a bunch of sinkholes that people inevitably fall into.

Don't get me started on the "real black-holes haven't been tried before" people though.

Yeah, that's not capitalism. And given that your alternatives always lead to genocide, I think we'll be ok.

You want me to call capitalism "not capitalism" then? Is the dictionary too triggering or something?

No, a company doing things you don't like isn't capitalism. People have done bad things since the dawn of time and capitalism has nothing to do with it. Urk stole Glukgluk's sticks so that he could have more sticks than Urk. It wasn't because of capitalism.

Again, please take a look at what's happened every single time "anti capitalists" got in power. It's a genocide. Every time.

iirc the story is like this: ukraine is located in place where the crops can either grow or not to grow cuz like of drought or something. In Russia (I mean empire) if there was hunger, people shared food with those who had their crops die. In the time of "holodomor" took place, that mechanism of food sharing wasn't used in ukraine due to some reasons (maybe cuz of kulaks who enslaved people for food), and soviet control yet did not appear in that region and couldn't affect anything there

Can we shift this meta conversation into talking about what you actually don't like about this latest re-release 40oz ?

Those cities aren't run by capitalists. They're run by socialists. They're run by people constantly yammering on about equity and "collectives". And capitalism isn't a government system anyway, it's a market. You aren't forced to play.

I mean, the guy literally just excused the Holodomor by saying all the victims were slave owners anyway. They do the same thing about the Great Leap Forward, it was all slave owners and nazis.

So it's probably worth listening to the types of people who constantly call innocent people nazis because they want to do it again.

You know, to fight capitalism.

Kleptocrats feigning to be socialists. An argument can be made that they are the same thing in practice. However, it's not socialism explicitly that is decimating those cities. It's just bad policy across the board. Certainly not capitalism though. 

Capitalism, while far from perfect has raised the standard of living and life expectancy globally more than any other economic system. Wanting to get rid of it is like wanting to get rid of the fossil fuel industry, which would result in many millions of deaths in a very rapid time frame and essentially a new dark age.

The problem with bethesda isn't that they are good capitalists, it is that they are bad ones. They have been decimating their brand for some time. Destroying good will, delivering inferior products etc. They have become short sighted thus making their model unsustainable long term. There are unfortunately laws that incentivize this type of behavior. That''s neither a left or right issue, more a "governments suck at their job' issue.

Also relevant:

Soviets had yet to come to ukraine to do something there

First WTF at Kinsie calling for this bullshit on independent servers. I really appreciate some of his work and built off his having cleaned up the Doom 2 beta version maps with most of cut the textures supplied, but disappointing to see that crap. Decay and Ru5tK1ng have already responded perfectly and I have nothing to add...

Except for this!



Second WTF at making it out to be some issue of capitalism. Unless Kinsie happens to be on Bethesda's payroll and they give any crap whatsoever about the independent file hosts, then you could cry about a capitalist company trying to monopolize or erase stuff. Bethesda is just doing what companies do. They have to make money somehow. They and Zenimax can however suck balls for how they allowed spastic lying sociopath Marty Stratton to treat Mick Gordon, continued to back Marty's bullshit, and other issues. I have zero interest in Medieval Dino Doom Year Zero whatever the F. Trying to take stuff down off of independent servers actually really cries communists commie-ing. WTF is with people still believing in Marxist bullshit. Name one freaking country in all of history that communism has brought prosperity or equality to, and hasn't killed tons of people. It doesn't even have to be both, just name a country that attained one of those under communism and isn't some dystopian nightmare on a constant controlling PR campaign. Karl Marx was a complete and total unproductive disingenuous scummy cheating 2-faced piece of shit in every freaking single aspect of his entire miserable wretched life. Central planning over too vast an area and trying to control so much of people's lives will always be a tyrannical clusterfuck. There will never be such true equality. Too many people piss away whatever they get as soon as they get it and will always be poor unless constantly given more that they didn't earn. Scumbags will always happily extort hard working people to pay the losers, knowing that much of the money will later or quickly end up in their hands. Fuck so-called equity. All around it kills motivation to accomplish much of anything or work hard or even do things correctly. Look how shitty it's gotten now with people doing less than the bare minimal, even with things as critical as building freaking safe airplanes AND competently directly air traffic without directing them into each other's paths. Look at freaking history, how there was difficulty motivating East Germans to do shit when the country was reunited.

Also, here's something interesting. Anarchism was not born from capitalism. It was born out of rebelling against communism. Because living under communist regimes really sucks ass. Why else did the entire soviet block fail, while China and North Korea mutated into completely different stuff? Gotta love how the same tools in this country who said China isn't real communism, are then later calling for a social credit system just like China. And also the useful idiots that think they may get their communist utopia, are blind to how they are totally expendable puppets to the most elite fascists, even as their lives get shittier while fascists get more powerful and richer.   But the people who just want freedom, their Constitutional rights, and to not have their kids molested, are labeled fascists.   Twenty years ago or less I thought conservatives were paranoid about communism.   Though I always thought any kind of governmental communism was crap, I didn't see the threat and what they were slowly working up to.   Now I completely understand them.

Here's a good article that just happened to drop today.
www.zerohedge.com/political/4-ways-inoculate-your-children-against-marxism
Also, a good book I read mostly about Kung Fu is Iron and Silk. It also talks about daily life dealing with piece of shit petty communist bureaucrats who would lie and just make up imaginary laws on the spot saying, "That's a regulation."

No mic drop. Only assholes do that and damage people's expensive audio equipment (they obviously don't understand what's it like to pay for themselves). Well I suppose dropping one of those ultra cheap skinny gray computer mics is fine.