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Post by optimus on Feb 8, 2022 15:33:30 GMT -5
What is that one WAD (or maybe more than one) that from time to time you remember and nostalgically come back again to replay? Now, that could be many answers to me, it could be Galaxia for ultra nostalgia, it could be others,.. but I just remembered The Talosian Incident I randomly click on youtube and found someone playing it. By noticing the darkness of alien planets, the dread of buildings with strange shadows and totally empty rooms (like liminal spaces in a way), and the ambient music they used, it hit me instantly. I'll replay it again. www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/s-u/talosianWhat's yours, if you could select one at of your favorites? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 16:02:57 GMT -5
For Ultra Nostalgia™ there will always be HOOVER by Michael Reed! It was one of the first, if not THE first pwad(s) I ever played. The visuals of the canyon made a lasting impression, and the "journey" towards the top combined with the many secrets and the aforementioned epic visuals gives it a high replay value, in my opinion. All of Reed's other maps totally pale in comparison. get HOOVER.WAD hereThen, there's "semi-nostalgia" - Russell D. Pearson made a bunch of absolutely stunning levels at the start of the millenium, and those that impressed me the most was his Doom2.exe compatible levels - some of them I felt surpassed, or at least matched Alien Vendetta and Eternal Doom's most visually appealing levels. Null Space was the first level by the author I played, and it's a damn good one! Set in a void (and this was before "void" was a popular theme), great use of both old and new complimentary textures, great flow in gameplay, not too hard, but still quite a challenge. get NULSPACE.WAD hereA little while later, the same guy decided that LEGO bricks was a good theme for a Doom map. Lego bricks does of course make a map with lots of squares, semi-ugly texture schemes and such, but I loved the gameplay (and the gimmick of course, being a big Lego head in my childhood). Enough said. Get LEGOBASE.WAD hereFans of Doom2.exe compatible stuff that haven't tried these already should get to it now! (edit: sorry I couldn't keep it to one level)  |
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 9, 2022 12:28:47 GMT -5
i always try to play alien vendetta bcuz i love all the levels before the second tech base level and im trying to get into all the levels after that so i think maybe if i re play it enough then one day i ll love it too because i want to get into it i mean it has so much good stuff you can like about the wad !
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 9, 2022 12:29:28 GMT -5
i also play thge doom2 iwad a lot but everytime i reach a sandy petersen level i just think like ... why am i playing this when i can play evilution or plutonia or doom 1 or ANY OTHER WAD EVER and then i switch over
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Feb 9, 2022 13:56:51 GMT -5
Imagine unironically thinking Sandy is not by far the best level designer out of the IWAD mappers. Jesus christ. Go play doom2 MAP28, now.
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Post by dr_st on Feb 9, 2022 16:28:18 GMT -5
it could be Galaxia for ultra nostalgia You know what? I probably replayed Galaxia more than any other single-level WAD in existence. Other than Cyber Sweeper, of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 18:28:47 GMT -5
I'm still playing Doom v1.2 on my old winxp rig and/or via DOSBox almost every week, so any Doom nostalgia is pretty much nullified in that regard. I think that the closest thing to nostalgia that i've really felt when playing Doom, was when i've played aaliens for the first time (a few months after the release). Somehow, some forgotten memories of myself watching the very show that inspired the megawad began to pop into my head as i was progressing thru the mapset and was recognizing the references to the show cointaned in the map titles. I don't remember the year exacly, might have been around 2010-2012, but anyways.. during my time on this job i would usually spend my lunch breaks watching cable tv on my father's house - most of the time, Hystory Channel. And during that period of the day, Alienígenas do Passado (or Ancient Aliens) was on; and sometimes my father would come by, sit by my side and watch along. But the absurdity of the show would soon begin to annoy him, he would give up, nod his head in contempt and leave. But there was this one time that he stayed a little longer and then began to question if i really believed in any of that crazy talk. Off course i started parroting their terminology and their usual bullshit as if i was into it. He took it seriously and said that later he would have a talk with my mother about this. Yeah, i know.. very anecdotal memory, right? - and even tho the Tsoukalos meme was already popular, somehow these memories lied dormant over the years until the day i've played this Doom mapset. Go figure. |
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Post by kvsari on Feb 9, 2022 19:06:50 GMT -5
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Post by 40oz on Feb 9, 2022 21:47:53 GMT -5
Sandy Petersen deserves a lot of credit for making Doom as fun as it is, but my enthusiasm for Doom 2 really starts to dip about midway through MAP08 Tricks and Traps. By the time i get to MAP09 the pit i start to get pretty bored. Refueling Base is a good standalone map by itself but not as a follower to the pit. The middle maps for doom 2 have some moments but theyre mostly pretty bland.
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Post by kvsari on Feb 9, 2022 22:59:24 GMT -5
Sandy Petersen deserves a lot of credit for making Doom as fun as it is, but my enthusiasm for Doom 2 really starts to dip about midway through MAP08 Tricks and Traps. By the time i get to MAP09 the pit i start to get pretty bored. Refueling Base is a good standalone map by itself but not as a follower to the pit. The middle maps for doom 2 have some moments but theyre mostly pretty bland. The Doom 2 IWAD is mostly forgettable for me also. But maps 15 & 16 stick in my memory and are a pleasure to reminisce. To answer the OP's question, wads I want to replay are DBP27. I've replayed it a few times and I plan to play it again later in the year. Add DBP11 as well. I find that WAD sits comfortably in my mind. It's like fine wine. Now, the Splatterhouse TC of Impie's is excellent. I really like the gameplay, the art and the level design. I find the levels to be evocative and really take you to another world and successfully build that 'fourth wall'. I'm going to replay it one day when the time is right. I can't really think of any more I'd want to replay, scratching my brain but nope. |
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Feb 9, 2022 23:12:58 GMT -5
I know this is too soon to be considered Nostalgia (as i got into doom a few years ago) but i would say Sigil.
Sigil is the first pwad i have ever played and i experienced it Via freedoom on android.
i started getting into doom a lot after i saw AVGN's Chex quest video, that is how i found out about GZDoom and brutal doom.
then i started playing it on my tablet then i was hooked ever since. when i play sigil i always think of the suffering i went through with awkward android controls and certain mods not working. (well look at this, this post turned more into an origin story rather than my original intention)
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Post by kvsari on Feb 9, 2022 23:15:58 GMT -5
I want to play Sigil, but I want to purchase the Doom IWAD first. Then I'll play it all in order.
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Post by matador on Feb 10, 2022 0:00:44 GMT -5
What I appreciate about Sandy Petersen is that he's such an idea guy. Even if I don't like the map, I can't really say he phoned it in or that the idea itself was bad, just that the execution was off. I think all the different opinions there are about which of his maps were the good ones is proof he's a versatile mapper (imo, his best three from Doom II are "Tricks & Traps", "Downtown" and "Monster Condo", though I like "Suburbs" and "The Spirit World" too).
McGee is probably my favorite of the Doom II mappers though, or at least I think he's the most consistent. The early run of levels is a lot of fun and I think he had a much stronger grasp on aesthetics and lighting than either Romero or Petersen (and it didn't come at the expense of gameplay). Anyway, Doom 2 is my nostalgic favorite, I play the first eight or so levels every month to hear the DBP midis and I never really get tired of it. Personally, I think the early part of the hell episode is the worst of it, I think the first 19 maps are mostly great, with a few duds like "Tenements" here and there but nothing too egregious.
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Feb 10, 2022 1:30:53 GMT -5
I want to play Sigil, but I want to purchase the Doom IWAD first. Then I'll play it all in order. Prepare yourself for some awesome midis in Sigil, created by James "Jimmy" Paddock. |
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Post by dr_st on Feb 10, 2022 17:08:59 GMT -5
I want to play Sigil, but I want to purchase the Doom IWAD first. Then I'll play it all in order. Prepare yourself for some awesome midis in Sigil, created by James "Jimmy" Paddock. Yes, totally awesome. I know Romero was selling the Buckethead live audio soundtrack as a special feature, but come on - it's DOOM. It has to be MIDI! |
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 10, 2022 18:31:33 GMT -5
It's only 6.66 Euro for Sigil Shreds. I think it was slightly more in USD when I got it. Meanwhile Buckethead is selling an album of the music for more. The midi soundtrack is good too.
Also, don't talk shit about Sandy Petersen! He's awesome. Maybe not all his levels are great, but he certainly made several greatly devious ones. While not an actual team lead, he did steer a lot of Doom and Quake's design, aside from pumping out the most maps. Obviously there's going to be stuff within such a quantity that isn't going to make everyone happy.
One thing for certain, is you're going to get some heck of some variety among his maps and encounter some very creative ideas, less so with the ones started by Tom Hall that he finished, but I still like those. I'll concede that Nirvana is his worst map. Slough of Despair gets a lot of hate but it plays funner than it looks and everything else gets better.
Barrels O' Fun, Tricks & Traps, Tower of Babel, Warrens, The Spirit World, The Courtyard, Suburbs, Monster Condo. I'm certainly glad to have all those in Doom. Chasm is an acquired taste. I gave Quake 1 episode 4 (which is mostly by him) another run (with a Quake 2 weapons mod) before playing the expansions.
I really hopes he makes some new maps. I saw some mention that he's thought about it but is concerned with being overshadowed by Romero's new stuff and maybe other recent work. My mapping style is more concrete and less abstract than Petersen, but I think his ideas and style affected me a lot, maybe most. Getting into reading a lot of HP Lovecraft again, I think I might get a book or two of Petersen's based in the mythos, even though I'm not into table top RPG's. Maybe I'll find some ideas to use in Doom.
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Post by joe-ilya on Feb 10, 2022 18:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 11, 2022 6:12:23 GMT -5
i still hate sandy petersens levels sorry
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Post by 40oz on Feb 11, 2022 8:47:38 GMT -5
Malcolm sailors work in talosian incident is pretty awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2022 11:49:15 GMT -5
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Post by optimus on Feb 12, 2022 7:50:51 GMT -5
Some interesting choices here. I forgot about Hoover.wad, it was spectacular at the time. But I didn't know of Nullspace the Legobase. Cool single maps to play. I remember the Legobase from NeoDoom secret map, but didn't know there was another one before(?).
Also I remember one-two more I want to mention. Earth.wad or Phobos.wad
And yeah, a lot of Master Levels give me the vibes. Sometimes I replay the PS1 versions of them because they have the starry sky and very dark and atmospheric sound.
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Feb 12, 2022 21:36:51 GMT -5
Prepare yourself for some awesome midis in Sigil, created by James "Jimmy" Paddock. Yes, totally awesome. I know Romero was selling the Buckethead live audio soundtrack as a special feature, but come on - it's DOOM. It has to be MIDI! I agree, and i actually prefer the midi soundtrack over the buckethead one in my opinion. |
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Post by bimbo on Feb 14, 2022 13:41:54 GMT -5
For Ultra Nostalgia™ there will always be HOOVER by Michael Reed! It was one of the first, if not THE first pwad(s) I ever played. The visuals of the canyon made a lasting impression, and the "journey" towards the top combined with the many secrets and the aforementioned epic visuals gives it a high replay value, in my opinion. All of Reed's other maps totally pale in comparison. get HOOVER.WAD hereThen, there's "semi-nostalgia" - Russell D. Pearson made a bunch of absolutely stunning levels at the start of the millenium, and those that impressed me the most was his Doom2.exe compatible levels - some of them I felt surpassed, or at least matched Alien Vendetta and Eternal Doom's most visually appealing levels. Null Space was the first level by the author I played, and it's a damn good one! Set in a void (and this was before "void" was a popular theme), great use of both old and new complimentary textures, great flow in gameplay, not too hard, but still quite a challenge. get NULSPACE.WAD hereA little while later, the same guy decided that LEGO bricks was a good theme for a Doom map. Lego bricks does of course make a map with lots of squares, semi-ugly texture schemes and such, but I loved the gameplay (and the gimmick of course, being a big Lego head in my childhood). Enough said. Get LEGOBASE.WAD hereFans of Doom2.exe compatible stuff that haven't tried these already should get to it now! (edit: sorry I couldn't keep it to one level)  i love these, thanks for sharing them. i feel nostalgic playing them myself despite never having done so. there's something magical about these older wads. |
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 14, 2022 22:26:51 GMT -5
i also like to play akeldama and the wad called doom thje way id did
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Post by good-old on Feb 15, 2022 13:18:10 GMT -5
Also, don't talk shit about Sandy Petersen! He's awesome. Maybe not all his levels are great, but he certainly made several greatly devious ones. While not an actual team lead, he did steer a lot of Doom and Quake's design, aside from pumping out the most maps. Obviously there's going to be stuff within such a quantity that isn't going to make everyone happy. Yeah he's cool. The fact that he had to do most of the levels caused the bad quality of some of them because it caused rushing. Also I agree Slough of Despair is awesome and doesn't deserve the hate it gets. |
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