matador
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by matador on Aug 6, 2021 23:46:16 GMT -5
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM
BANS *WILL* BE GETTING PASSED OUT IF YOU RETARDS KEEP FUCKING ANNOYING ME
STOP MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS OR I WILL CRIPPLE YOU WITH HAMMERS
PARTICIPATION IN THIS THREAD IS A PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT
HAIL HYDRA
- dnWarning - this might make some of you guys pretty mad, I'll be honest and admit the smear job pisses me off. 40oz was right. @vigilantdoomer was right. A status update that might be of interest from a Cacoaward judge, who I'm sure will give us a fair shake (lol). I think the timing of this post is very telling considering it comes at a time when we've released a DBP that's so popular and beloved that not winning a Caco will be the most obvious snub in Cacoawards history. Also be sure to check out the likes, there's some very interesting likes for rd's initial post and Vanaheim's post, where he's now expressing reluctance to map for us. Some people REALLY want their internet trophy. the update in question ( archive) Pictures: rd's postlikes on rd's postVanaheim Ranger's post & Steve D's postlikes on Vanaheim Ranger's postlikes on Steve D's post
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Post by ProfessorBigDick on Aug 7, 2021 0:16:06 GMT -5
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Post by ProfessorBigDick on Aug 7, 2021 0:25:23 GMT -5
Somehow I didn't see those last 2 posts above mine. But did they actually use sarais as a representative of doomer boards? Because that's idiotic beyond comprehension
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Post by 40oz on Aug 7, 2021 0:25:25 GMT -5
if i was a moderator on doomworld i wouldnt like truthbombs either.
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matador
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
I feel asleep.
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Post by matador on Aug 7, 2021 0:30:48 GMT -5
Somehow I didn't see those last 2 posts above mine. But did they actually use sarais as a representative of doomer boards? Because that's idiotic beyond comprehension Thread merge. It's dumb but people don't have the time to do a deep dive and research all of this stuff, they'll just believe it at face value. |
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Post by 40oz on Aug 7, 2021 0:31:29 GMT -5
Somehow I didn't see those last 2 posts above mine. But did they actually use sarais as a representative of doomer boards? Because that's idiotic beyond comprehension i dont think they really know what theyre doing. theyre trying their best. theres a bunch of links in that status but its just snips of thread titles and posts without context that they are adding information to. it would be cool if it was actually incriminating but im pretty transparent about my intentions and what i mean. |
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dmdr
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is this how I add a title under my avatar?
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Post by dmdr on Aug 7, 2021 5:31:15 GMT -5
goddammit last year I wrote a huge effortpost about how progressives are ultraprimitive dipshits living in la-la fantasy land and I don't get linked to about how DB is 'fascist'?* I also penned a section in the DBP25 project thread's OP defending HP Lovecraft for being racist! what have I got to do, start a thread called 'genocide is good' or some shit? This shit hurts for real man, I worked hard on those posts but nah I'm beneath notice. Fuckin snubbed hard bros
* just to be clear when tards like that rd. guy say this word what they mean is 'not down with whatever the latest leftoid anti-human programme is', ie. a normal, mentally healthy human being just like the billions if not trillions of people born prior to the latter half of the 20th century. It's not an insult, it doesn't even mean anything at all. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S ORWELL
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 8:29:49 GMT -5
dmdr, giving you a notice is not good for their (DW) image, so if you were talking about mentioned by them, then it is clear why that wouldn't happen. As for Doomer Boards, I did refer to your article in my post on the 51th page of this thread. Did you really think those nutheads really want for it to be seen, in case one does go to Doomer Boards to proofcheck their claims about us? Ha! They must be butthurt about even recalling it, not just reading through it again. It's like trying to avoid quarantine by not calling a doctor but reading about COVID-19 and seeing 100% match with one's own symptoms, starting from loss of smell and going far beyond that. In their case, the illness is mental. A mental equivalent of COVID-19, is also contagious (contamination via memes rather than genes, you see viruses can be memetic too). Some people have strong enough immune system to repel it though, but vaccination (by developing the faculty of rational thinking, strong moral principles and trusting only what one can directly verify) is advised.
On the upside: future new users of Doomer Boards might develop resistance by the time they register, either by having taken the proper vaccine or by being born with natural resistance to bullshit to begin with. Thus we will have a higher quality userbase. Cause they will not have fallen for Sarais trap and other defamations and smear campaigns. The only problem is whether these people also feature high artistic talent to be prolific at map making, but then again, testers are always needed for DBP, and programmers are occassionally useful too (there are too many genres of programming, so I stated the average. And testers also come with varying playing skill, and that's good too).
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Post by lunchlunch on Aug 7, 2021 8:37:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 9:21:15 GMT -5
So, I've watched the screenshots that matador have taken... Here are the conclusions. Those who can't do their own research won't land to be members here. Good riddance. As for cacowards, decentralization is long overdue. Don't bother respecting cacoward buzz, your best friend is a humble honest reviewer who will put spotlight on the stuff that you - as a player - might like or dislike, regardless of their own preferences. In fact, this is a hint. The true decentralization is where no awards are given, just a handful of good reviews so useful that it allows player to pick the stuff that'll suit them just by reading through them. Rather than "hey this is well-esteemed, you must enjoy this to be a cool person", there will be "this wad features this and this, and it doesn't have this, and here is how it compares to other wads that might be known / or are recreations of the same TC /etc." A honest review should feature objective facts rather than subjective judgement, people can judge for themselves, or should be learning to do it anyway. People who need others to judge something for them, rather than apply their own judgement, aren't the company that I would want to keep, period. People who don't check the facts before judging other people are not the company I would want to be around, either. (It's permissive to ignore a wad if you were supplied the wrong facts by a dishonest reviewer, so long as you don't go to defame the author of said wad). I also need to admit that I wasn't always stringent with fact checking (my attitude vs Blade of Agony earlier in this thread was based on hearsay, and I regret it), but these usually end up to be painful enough lessons to discourage similar lapse in judgement going forward. P.S. I will also not bother with remembering who liked what post on DW. These people might change their opinion, or may have been pressured by peer conformity to hide their true opinion. This is not a personal vendetta issue on MY side, decentralization is just a good goal regardless of how the wind on DW - or zdoom.org for that matter - flows. Exactly the goal is to make the wind direction - the staff decisions of ANY doom forum in existence - completely irrelevant to player's quest to find wads to play. EDIT: initially misattributed screenshots to good-old instead of matador. Sorry, guys. |
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dmdr
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Post by dmdr on Aug 7, 2021 9:33:02 GMT -5
thanks Vigilant, I'm glad you enjoyed my posts. I agree that having a tougher/more independently minded userbase is better overall, since that means it's possible to handle disagreements like adults instead of running away to the mods when things get heated. I also agree with Good-Old about the advantages of having a smaller number of posters.
(I still wanna be a boogeyman on DW though)
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Post by good-old on Aug 7, 2021 9:46:16 GMT -5
@vigilantdoomer you sure it was me? I don't remember posting any screenshots.( or maybe I have but I don't remember)
I completely agree on the "no awards" thingy. I had a dislike of awards for a long time no matter how they were chosen. I won't say anything else because it would be an echo of that post, but I really do agree.
Edit nvm it wasn't me
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matador
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
I feel asleep.
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Post by matador on Aug 7, 2021 11:01:11 GMT -5
So, I've watched the screenshots that matador have taken... Here are the conclusions. Those who can't do their own research won't land to be members here. Good riddance. As for cacowards, decentralization is long overdue. Don't bother respecting cacoward buzz, your best friend is a humble honest reviewer who will put spotlight on the stuff that you - as a player - might like or dislike, regardless of their own preferences. In fact, this is a hint. The true decentralization is where no awards are given, just a handful of good reviews so useful that it allows player to pick the stuff that'll suit them just by reading through them. Rather than "hey this is well-esteemed, you must enjoy this to be a cool person", there will be "this wad features this and this, and it doesn't have this, and here is how it compares to other wads that might be known / or are recreations of the same TC /etc." A honest review should feature objective facts rather than subjective judgement, people can judge for themselves, or should be learning to do it anyway. People who need others to judge something for them, rather than apply their own judgement, aren't the company that I would want to keep, period. People who don't check the facts before judging other people are not the company I would want to be around, either. (It's permissive to ignore a wad if you were supplied the wrong facts by a dishonest reviewer, so long as you don't go to defame the author of said wad). I also need to admit that I wasn't always stringent with fact checking (my attitude vs Blade of Agony earlier in this thread was based on hearsay, and I regret it), but these usually end up to be painful enough lessons to discourage similar lapse in judgement going forward. P.S. I will also not bother with remembering who liked what post on DW. These people might change their opinion, or may have been pressured by peer conformity to hide their true opinion. This is not a personal vendetta issue on MY side, decentralization is just a good goal regardless of how the wind on DW - or zdoom.org for that matter - flows. Exactly the goal is to make the wind direction - the staff decisions of ANY doom forum in existence - completely irrelevant to player's quest to find wads to play. EDIT: initially misattributed screenshots to good-old instead of matador . Sorry, guys. Just to clarify, I'm not asking anyone to hold vendettas, grudges or anything against people who 'liked' any of those posts and I agree that a lot of those likes are due to peer conformity and uninformed opinions (as the smear seems pretty bad if you don't dig into it a bit deeper). I only posted the screenshots/archives in order to present a complete picture of the thread in the case of edits or deletion and because I was a little pissed about what I see as some self-serving, weaselly behavior in the likes. |
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the motherfucking darknation
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Post by dn on Aug 7, 2021 15:56:31 GMT -5
Nice thread you've got there, Rd. Be a shame if someone took a big, seething, buttmadd shit all over it. postimg.cc/qtrgSmRj |
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Post by Endless on Aug 7, 2021 16:03:54 GMT -5
Hahahaha, oh lord. Spot on.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 7, 2021 17:17:23 GMT -5
I would like to remind everyone (incl any friends from DW visiting) that rd has an anime avatar and her? opinion therefore carries no weight whatsoever. Literally zero. Like a photon or some shit.
Also Magic Mushroom Man left this forum after I said that I didn't care if he got banned on Doomworld. Yes that's literally too toxic for the internet of today. And WE ARE WHINY? ????????
I appreciate the shout-out in his post though.
Lastly it's kind of shitty how josh and catpho never even said goodbye or anything here and are now shitting on the best doom forum ever to have Boards in its name, where (afaik) they had no beef with anyone whatsoever, even ol' Glenzinho. Kinda two faced. That shit's wack as fuck, especially on the internet where nobody can beat you up if you tell them they're mean. I liked those guys too.
ON THE OTHER HAND this place shits on doomworld and its admins regularly so I can understand them not wanting to give us coverage. Dew can suck a dick and I don't think anyone disagrees (no idea why do ppl pretend to like him on dw), but for example essel doesn't deserve 80 percent of the hate she gets here
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Does the word "fascist" even mean anything anymore?
Lastly, rd complaining about DBPs being linked to the FASCIST CESSPOOL!!!!!!!!!!!! that is Doomer Boards... major bruh moment. Look at the fucking name you dumb fuck. That's the point of the whole thing. God what a retard.
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Post by 40oz on Aug 7, 2021 17:26:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 17:52:48 GMT -5
Honestly, it's a really sad situation, like, am I some kind of -ist and -phobe if I just stay here? Why do you guys need to be hated, for what? And a big heartbreaking surprise was Catpho's reply.
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Post by gomklaxon on Aug 7, 2021 17:58:57 GMT -5
This whole situation just reeks of manufactured outrage. They've given awards to DBP entries in the past and didn't bat an eye, hell Endless didn't get any shit for plugging them in his wadzine, why get mad at us now?
Wouldn't surprise me if rd did this to make others wank them off or get a better reputation amongst the mod team.
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Post by 40oz on Aug 7, 2021 18:01:27 GMT -5
catpho knew what they were doing the whole time. Their account name on this board is "notcatpho." Doomworld got shitty and they caved to the pressure. Theres so many fake names on this forum because people want to be here without doomworld knowing who they are. Thats the culture doomworld created and now they have to deal with it.
its fine if DBP never gets posted on doomworld wads and mods again. If the moderating team wants doomworld to be about hating on doomer boards and not about making good doom maps then thats the path they chose and thats fine with me.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 7, 2021 18:02:15 GMT -5
@dmslr
"Heartbreaking surprise" is
definitely a better way of putting it.
You're not. I personally disagree with many views of most members here and I still feel welcome every time I visit. DW can't COMPREHEND the absence of a hivemind and everyone being able to state THEIR OWN opinion. I sound crazy but that's how it is. They take excerpts of posts from individual members here and apply that to the whole forum!!! Those members are not even admins!! Except 40 (who is still reasonably well-liked and is easily the most moderate member here) and dn (who is fucking darknation and Chaotic Neutral incarnate)
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Post by gomklaxon on Aug 7, 2021 18:02:19 GMT -5
am I some kind of -ist and -phobe if I just stay here? Why do you guys need to be hated, for what? Considering their type, that's definitely what they're implying. They don't care about whether you're a good person, only if you fit what they think is right.
As for the "why," it's probably so they can have some sort of punching bag to blame for everything. I dunno, just my two cents.
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Post by lunchlunch on Aug 7, 2021 18:03:06 GMT -5
Loved the cartoonish self-flagellation going on from users intimidated by social pressure into being ashamed of their tangential relation to a board that, according to the examples posted, at the very worst contained some transphobic remarks and speculation about vaccinations from a few users. I guess not only does that qualify someone as being a literal fascist, but qualifies anyone in proximity as being a literal fascist.
Sieg heil I guess. Inb4 that's cropped and taken out of context.
Don't know why I involved myself in this discussion, thinking I'd change anyone's minds, and do anything other than stir the drama pot. IRL I lean pretty liberal honestly but I forgot that unless you're wokescolding every Internet user you disagree with, you might as well be a Nazi.
Gossip/drama is lame, but where else but this thread can you go to voice frustration about another forum's moderator casually throwing around the word 'fascist' for the express purpose of taking a gigantic shit on our project for being popular?
Edit: Had a brief conversation with dew that I could sympathize with and while I still feel these things, I don't view my input today as productive for bridging relations between DW and DB, as unlikely as that is anyways, and I wanna go back to just grilling for gods sakes.
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Post by gomklaxon on Aug 7, 2021 18:05:57 GMT -5
xeepeep I don't think you're crazy, this is the same type of shit Ive heard going down on twitter every day.
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Post by Endless on Aug 7, 2021 20:12:42 GMT -5
This whole situation just reeks of manufactured outrage. They've given awards to DBP entries in the past and didn't bat an eye, hell Endless didn't get any shit for plugging them in his wadzine, why get mad at us now? Wouldn't surprise me if rd did this to make others wank them off or get a better reputation amongst the mod team. I've gotten some comments from time to time, but no major problems or threats regarding my passion for the DBPs. But the major thing here is that I love the WADs and the work some of you have done here, I praise the maps, I do not idolize the authors, some of you are kinda pathethic. On the other hand, my favorite mappers are now part of the DBK, with only SuperCupcakeTactics left here. So, for me? That's a win win, more maps to play. I generally give a shit about the author as long as they don't insert their idiotic political, ideological or sexual opinions inside the WAD. The DBP's have mostly succeeded in doing that as far as I can tell (I haven't play them all), so I keep playing them, reviewing them and loving them.
I do find rd call a bit unexpected, but I assumme is foreshadowing as to why Auger;Zenith wont get a Cacoward this year. I think we all know that's pretty much what's going to happen, but at least I did got Auger;Zenith featured on the Wadazine, least I can do, it is a fantastic WAD.
Granted, I can see the hate this board gets and with good reason, but I'm also not a big fan of the finger-pointing and calling people fascists. DW has its own shit, I dislike some mods there, some people, some of the staff and yada yada, but I don't hate on them actively, I don't shit on them regularly and I ignore them as much as I can, the result? I manage to sustain some tranquility, I don't have public enemies and I just do what you're suppossed to do in a Doom forum: Play and talk about fucking Doom.
One thing is true, you guys spend waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time talking shit about Doomworld, making shitpost threads, politics, racial issues, sex, or people you dislike. I swear you would be seen better by everyone if it wasn't for the fact that the ''Doom Community Happenings'' thread is actually the ''Doomworld & co. sucks shit'' thread. But I'd imagine you don't care what other people think about you, but will proceed to make snarky comments on how you're constantly being attacked on by the elite.
But honestly, it has come to the point that this is what is all about, your own boards for whatever crap you want to talk about. I generally don't give a damn. I just come here to learn about the latest drama for educational purposes because this thread tends to be up to date with the latest negative thing going all; is all about that, and to watch out for some interesting projects being worked on. I try to stay away from drama if I can, so I rarely post this kind of issues.
So, I, as patron saint of all WADs, will say this: Just stick to Doom for satans sake.
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