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Post by GRUG on Jul 27, 2021 11:42:46 GMT -5
The Soy Totalitarianism continues.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jul 27, 2021 15:05:45 GMT -5
"anti lockdown and anti vaccine passport " What the fuck do you want then, it's one or the other
I stg because of those retards corona is still a subject. Just get a fucking jab, it's free for most anyway. "but muh not approved/bill Gates microchip/5G" shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 15:20:02 GMT -5
I am wary of the vaccine because actual scientists were warning people in early 2021 that it's being rushed and that it should be tested and refined further, but i'd take that over these shitty lockdowns any day. The lockdowns end lives or severely cripple them, and any random person, politician or scientist who says otherwise has no basic grasp of how economics or mental health work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 15:48:27 GMT -5
How strict are the lockdowns in your countries guys? Here in mine, basically nothing is restricted. Only 1-2% of people wear masks. Nobody keeps social distancing. Oddly, we didn't face a crisis. I'm just confused. I still try to convince people to get the vaccines and tell about their importance in a society but to no avail; how can you do when COVID isn't raging here even without all these lockdowns?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 15:55:01 GMT -5
@dmslr The situation of my country (Brazil) is pretty varied as you'd expect for a huge country with over 220 million people, but in my city at least most people are using masks regularly (as it is required by law), most people respect social distancing, and the ones who don't you can tell it's moreso because they don't care/aren't paying attention rather than because of stupid political views. The two biggest issues, though, is that restrictions have killed almost all small businesses around here (including my family's), and veeeery few people are getting vaccinated because our president is anti-vax and is trying to sabotage the whole process.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 27, 2021 17:45:03 GMT -5
What are the benefits of being anti-vaccine; assuming your opinion has enough weight and succeeds at convincing everyone in the world to listen to you...?
You actually want to share the planet with 7 billion other disease carriers? Are you just gambling that none of this is real and no one is actually harmed by it? If people are harmed by it, it doesn't matter? What is the real mission?
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Post by dmdr on Jul 28, 2021 1:29:43 GMT -5
serial question 40? shitty vaccines that don't prevent infection/transmission, as these shitty vaccines almost certainly don't (there were good reasons to think so before they debuted too: archive.is/SjLSN ), make diseases worse because lethal strains aren't selected against any more real world chicken example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease#Preventionthere are three reasons to get the vaccine: 1) you are old and about to die anyway 2) you are sickly/immunocompromised in some way 3) protect yourself from dipshits who got the vaccine 3's a good reason but I'd rather you lot did the large scale real world testing for me first
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 1:48:31 GMT -5
Fourth reason: legal restrictions (deprivation of essential rights to travel, enter certain apartments or participate in sports) for people who didn't get the vaccine, as imposed by the governments.
No I don't believe COVID-19 vaccine can protect from anything at all. I hear every now and then that vaccinated people do get infected, these cases are both in the media and passed on from people I know, as well as some medics stating that getting a vaccine means you'll just have less severe symptoms when you get infected - which indeed does suggest that this vaccine is a fucking leaky one.
As I said, people who can't survive COVID-19 on their own MUST die. They shouldn't get any assistance, there shouldn't be any lockdowns to protect them. They are worthless, a burden for humanity. Just let them fucking die and those with strong immunity will survive on their own and go on to reproduce children.
If you do get the vaccine however, make sure to undergo sterilization or otherwise render yourself incapable of conceiving children. (Having children pre-vaccination is fine though).
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jul 28, 2021 2:56:14 GMT -5
How strict are the lockdowns in your countries guys? Here in mine, basically nothing is restricted. Only 1-2% of people wear masks. Nobody keeps social distancing. Oddly, we didn't face a crisis. I'm just confused. I still try to convince people to get the vaccines and tell about their importance in a society but to no avail; how can you do when COVID isn't raging here even without all these lockdowns? In my country (Serbia) almost nothing because most people are vaccinated. I think you still have to wear a mask in some places but that's it. My lil bro is going to Britain this week and he has mandatory 1-week isolation though. There's a second end of the corona madness spectrum for sure.
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Post by sosh on Jul 28, 2021 3:39:45 GMT -5
How strict are the lockdowns in your countries guys? Basically none, except outgoing travel on land is prohibited supposedly "to combat the spread of Covid-19". Government institutions also seem to be schizophrenic on whether it's a big deal or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 5:58:38 GMT -5
serial question 40? shitty vaccines that don't prevent infection/transmission, as these shitty vaccines almost certainly don't (there were good reasons to think so before they debuted too: archive.is/SjLSN ), make diseases worse because lethal strains aren't selected against any more real world chicken example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease#Preventionthere are three reasons to get the vaccine: 1) you are old and about to die anyway 2) you are sickly/immunocompromised in some way 3) protect yourself from dipshits who got the vaccine 3's a good reason but I'd rather you lot did the large scale real world testing for me first Here is a more recent article from that same author promoting the opposite. This piece of shit was only against the vaccine back then because Trump was in charge. A lot of the bullshit rhetoric against the vaccine was initially created by leftists that were afraid of the vaccine development under Trump. Now the democrats need to deal with the retarded Frankenstein monster they've created. Democrat billionaires like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are hardcore anti-vaxxers that promote this nonsense. But instead the news only focuses on right-wingers that have these beliefs. Trump himself took an mRNA vaccine. I got the vaccine, and I am fine, so are all of the people that I know who have taken it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 7:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by deathevokation on Jul 28, 2021 8:46:15 GMT -5
how did life get so serious all of a sudden?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 9:16:06 GMT -5
That's not life, that's politics - if you are about protests, conspiracies, etc. Life is a simple thing: you run naked in whatever forest/savanna/tundra there is, you get fucked up by the local fauna, digested alive for a while, then digested dead for a while, then maybe buried for further digesting, and your life expectancy is 20 years old not because you get old by that time, but because you die by that time.
Now it seems the humans have built quite elaborate zoos to host themselves in for their Big Brother amusement, and have the hubris to pretend he can protect them against natural dangers of life... it was a success for the most part, a lot of humans now live wormlike consumption-oriented existence (they call it life, but as I pointed out earlier, you only really live when you can die any moment), yet a grand retribution came crushing in 2020 (2019 was really only a prelude, what we call a pandemic really didn't hit until 2020 it seems), and now a lot seem to be facing up to what they should have been facing their entire existence, a raw inescapable terror of being powerless against the unpredictable forces of nature.
And yet still we see pathetic attempts to reinstitute zoo shelters by locking down the cells humans are hosted in, or by genetic modifications of humans through little tested vaccines (wow, it seems Big Brother now likes to play dice too). The Big Brother is not happy, you see, some human insects have woken up to a real life experience and realized he can't really protect them from it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 9:18:27 GMT -5
Moral is: the Nature wants to kill us, the Nature ought to kill us. Stop trying to survive and protect the humanity. Defending yourself against Nature is a crime.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 10:19:12 GMT -5
Moral is: the Nature wants to kill us, the Nature ought to kill us. Stop trying to survive and protect the humanity. Defending yourself against Nature is a crime. You're a psycho, vigilantdoomer. I believe you don't take drugs or any medical services?
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jul 28, 2021 10:39:52 GMT -5
Moral is: the Nature wants to kill us, the Nature ought to kill us. Stop trying to survive and protect the humanity. Defending yourself against Nature is a crime. Based and absolutely schizopilled.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 11:45:17 GMT -5
@dmslr, I do take antidepressants for more than half a year already, because the initial response hard lockdown really fucked me. I also take a lot of other meds: vitamin D supplements, cause sun barely shines here, iron - whenever the natural one is measured low, etc. However, they are clearly not responsible for this - I had affinity with Nature since early childhood, and oddly enough for a computer nerd, have grown up a technophobe, and my views about humans being the pests of planet Earth formed back then already - I can clearly remember it. So the rebuttal is: I have always being this way. My parents were a special kind of people, as well. However, perhaps my reaction to every COVID-19 discussion is indeed more related to trauma the lockdown inflicted on me, rather than a hard desire for people to die. Then again, I sometimes do entertain the thought that may be humanity deserves to be wiped out, if no decent comes out of it. Of course, we might first get rid of all the politicians, and see if it solves the problem. BIG DICK NIGGA, not pilled, bro - that's innate pristine schizophrenia.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 12:09:14 GMT -5
IMO Humanity is a part of nature, and every living being in nature is compelled to ensure it's own survival. Using medicine is our natural way to do it, it is not something outside of the natural world. What is the difference between using flint, and sticks to make tools, and forging microchips with mineral quartz? It is just a far more advanced tool, we craft from the natural world around us. Even chimps use tools, ants domesticate other insects, Other animals using tools: www.livescience.com/9761-10-animals-tools.htmlHumans are animals, we do not exist outside of nature. Neither do our survival strategies.
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Post by GRUG on Jul 28, 2021 12:31:44 GMT -5
What are the benefits of being anti-vaccine; assuming your opinion has enough weight and succeeds at convincing everyone in the world to listen to you...? 1) No long term studies shown on the COVID-19 vaccine. We don't know what kind of hidden adverse affects this can have an people. 2) There have been reports of short term side affects that have been both mild to severe. Mild as in "sore arm, flu like symptoms, etc.." Severe as in "heart attacks/heart inflammation, and "blood clots". Some reported were fatal. Media trying to bury this is a major red flag. 3) Internet censorship of people speaking out about these adverse reactions. Major red flag. 4) Scientific data from the CDC indicates that young people have a high percent chance of surviving COVID. I'm not high risk. Even most middle aged people aren't high risk either. Unless you're a morbidly obese individual, or old with numerous medical issues (such as autoimmune issues), then I would be concerned about COVID. 5) Scientific data indicates that people vaccinated can still contract COVID, and people are still getting symptoms of COVID, and vaccinated people can still spread COVID to others. Absolutely useless. 6) We have researched effective medical treatments for COVID patients. You actually want to share the planet with 7 billion other disease carriers? Go live in a bubble if you this paranoid.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 12:57:39 GMT -5
What are the benefits of being anti-vaccine; assuming your opinion has enough weight and succeeds at convincing everyone in the world to listen to you...? 1) No long term studies shown on the COVID-19 vaccine. We don't know what kind of hidden adverse affects this can have an people. 2) There have been reports of short term side affects that have been both mild to severe. Mild as in "sore arm, flu like symptoms, etc.." Severe as in "heart attacks/heart inflammation, and "blood clots". Some reported were fatal. Media trying to bury this is a major red flag. 3) Internet censorship of people speaking out about these adverse reactions. Major red flag. 4) Scientific data from the CDC indicates that young people have a high percent chance of surviving COVID. I'm not high risk. Even most middle aged people aren't high risk either. Unless you're a morbidly obese individual, or old with numerous medical issues (such as autoimmune issues), then I would be concerned about COVID. 5) Scientific data indicates that people vaccinated can still contract COVID, and people are still getting symptoms of COVID, and vaccinated people can still spread COVID to others. Absolutely useless. 6) We have researched effective medical treatments for COVID patients. You actually want to share the planet with 7 billion other disease carriers? Go live in a bubble if you this paranoid. It is not a useless vaccine, despite breakthrough cases, the vast majority of the Covid deaths since February have been unvaccinated people. Take a look at this story from Texas: Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people. www.texastribune.org/2021/07/21/coronavirus-texas-vaccinated-deaths/More of the same in South Carolina: DHEC Analysis: More than 90 Percent of COVID-19 Cases, Deaths in June were Among Unvaccinated Residents scdhec.gov/news-releases/dhec-analysis-more-90-percent-covid-19-cases-deaths-june-were-among-unvaccinated99.5% of all new deaths and 97% of hospitalizations were from unvaccinated people in the whole U.S. www.krqe.com/health/coronavirus/vaccine/us-is-split-between-the-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-and-deaths-and-hospitalizations-reflect-this-divide/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 13:06:56 GMT -5
The reality though is that even if we managed to vaccinate 100% of all people in the first world, there is still the issue of the third world. The Delta variant first appeared in India. They will probably not reach herd immunity in our lifetimes. Thus, I think there should definitely be a vaccine mandate for all immigrants and foreigners before they come to our country.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jul 28, 2021 13:42:01 GMT -5
2) There have been reports of short term side affects that have been both mild to severe. Mild as in "sore arm, flu like symptoms, etc.." Severe as in "heart attacks/heart inflammation, and "blood clots". Some reported were fatal. Media trying to bury this is a major red flag. 3) Internet censorship of people speaking out about these adverse reactions. Major red flag.I haven't seen this in my part of the world. All news sources I follow have reported extensively on the adverse effects, and many officials have given statements. If they do this in America, that's wack as fuck. As wack as being anti-vax. 4) Scientific data from the CDC indicates that young people have a high percent chance of surviving COVID. I'm not high risk. Even most middle aged people aren't high risk either. Unless you're a morbidly obese individual, or old with numerous medical issues (such as autoimmune issues), then I would be concerned about COVID. True but fuck lying in bed with a splitting headache for a week. Even though I'd be fine, I have better things to do with my life. For example post here about my penis. Also the fact that me and you would be fine doesn't mean everyone would. 5) Scientific data indicates that people vaccinated can still contract COVID, and people are still getting symptoms of COVID, and vaccinated people can still spread COVID to others. Absolutely useless. Quite the contrary, almost none of the vaccinated people who get COVID exhibit serious symptoms and therefore don't strain the healthcare system. this means that Covid is effectively reduced to the level of the flu or something. Very useful!!!! 1) No long term studies shown on the COVID-19 vaccine. We don't know what kind of hidden adverse affects this can have an people. True but the vaccines have been out for over half a year now and none have been detected yet. In your defence, this is not enough time to see any potential effects on future children you may have, but since you're a man, I wouldn't concern myself with that, if i were you. AFAIK the vaccine doesn't affect the male reproductive system in any way. idk about the female one. Also would you rather another year of lockdown? That's the only alternative. Well there's also just leaving everyone to die (lol) but that's schizoism. Anywayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I'm done with this thread, ping me if there are any more schizoposts. EDIT Behind a paywall but here is a clip from the google search I gotchu 12ft.io/https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/11/15/majority-anti-vaccine-ads-facebook-were-funded-by-two-groups
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Post by Lobo on Jul 28, 2021 13:52:26 GMT -5
I read that previous attempts at mRNA vaccines were quite effective against the virus. BUT, and its a big "but", had the nasty habit of causing lung cancer in the test subjects later on.
Since I assume cancers take longer than a few months to affect the individual, we'll see how things are in a year or 2 amongst the mRNA vaccinated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 14:08:53 GMT -5
I read that previous attempts at mRNA vaccines were quite effective against the virus. BUT, and its a big "but", had the nasty habit of causing lung cancer in the test subjects later on. Since I assume cancers take longer than a few months to affect the individual, we'll see how things are in a year or 2 amongst the mRNA vaccinated. Where did you read this?
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