DBP21: Occult Secrets of the Third Reich on Mars

Excellent work as per usual Bill! We're looking for any bug reports if you come across them asap, we'll be doing a coop test and some more in depth continuous play tests over the coming week to get this one finalised soon. Great work all around to those who contributed and helped out along the course of the month with feedback and such, your efforts are appreciated as always... now go and shoot some Nazi scum! On Mars!

First bug found already and it's a doozy unfortunately: MAP01 cannot be exited on PrB+ -cl2 as the exit platform switches refuse to function. There'll almost certainly be a quick update for this one when Bill receives his notification of it.

In the meantime until Bill can get on it, download this bugfix version of MAP01 and load both wads with this patch wad last in order of loading so exiting MAP01 is possible:


MAP01 bugfix wad

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Heh

nice!

EDIT: I'm four maps in. This is a lot of fun! I don't normally like people's dehacked patching and monster replacements but the first map acclimated me to it really well and I'm enjoying this a lot. It's like a (can't believe im saying this) family friendly nazi-themed wad. Great work everyone!

yo this wad is hilarious; it really takes itself the right amount of seriously while playing really really well. The wolfenstein resources dont even look out of place in this when mixed with the recolored doom monsters and self-mocking comedy of this, its just fantastic. Joke wads are a dead genre but this may very well be the redemption. I'm having a great time playing this. Really outdone yourselves -- bravo, my dudes, bravo.

got 'em.

democracy is restored. freedom has never felt so free. The chains of fascism are disbound. Jewish space babes with tears of joy are crying my name.

Life is sweet

Finished the whole mapset in 100 minutes, and I found a couple of bugs :

MAP05 : The pain elemental in the last arena seems to be stuck and not be able to shoot lost souls as a result.
MAP06 : The midtexture black nazi signs are lower than they should be, the texture used shift the offsets for some reason while I was using the unfinished texture pack.

Decided to pistol start every map this time like a dork. Link to the demos if anyone wants them. Crispy Doom CL-2 Keyboard Only Ultra-Violence DBP21 Version 1.1 used as stress relief from being a virtual doughnut sculpter.

MAP01: Good opener, not sure how I'm expected to fight the 4 archviles but I guess I'm not supposed to.
MAP02: Neat map with a particularly striking design.
MAP03: Fun Wolfenstein map. Could maybe use a chaingun at the start for some mowing down of dudes.
MAP04: Fun map and all around well rounded. Thumbs up.
MAP05: Found this map to be really pleasant and that thought stands out more for me than the map itself so another thumbs up from me. Nice MIDI too.
MAP06: This map killed me a lot and I had some trouble in it. Still cool with a neat design and is an endurance test. There's a chicken dinner and a medkit next to each other in one of the final gas chambers that ended up having me waste potential health points due to their placement. Nice with neato secrets.
MAP07: Needs more ammo as I had to punch two barons to death to save some. Tightest balance with the somewhat expected cunt design. I ended up saving for the first time at the final room since just by looking at it I knew it was gonna be some bullshit. After savescumming my way through I noticed that invulnerability sphere off in the distance which would have been helpful to know about earlier. That final area was like what I complained about in Joe's DBP12 map regarding the prison rape factor except this fight is messier and punishes lack of foreknowledge the most. Best room was the one with the 50 barons and weak cyberdemon out of everything which also has all the ammo in the map (lol).
MAP08: Neat map though I got lost for a bit and found a graphical glitch which I'll share. Never found a weapon to use the cell ammo with so I guess maybe that had me playing more cautiously. Some infinite height problems here but it worked out. Nice.
MAP09: Billy's best boss map and should be a new standard. Thumbs up.
MAP10: I like how you can scroll the credits up and down. Fits the theme well.

MAP08 glitch:


I also really like the message screen regarding ideologically diverse groups though it could another lookover (I noticed that the quotation marks are inconsistent). Another successful DBP launch grats y'all.

Awesome just like always.

Cool thanks gaspe!

As far as the palette goes, the situation is kind of interesting here: we're using the original Wolf3D palette, which of course wasn't built for Doom-style lighting variation. So especially with darker areas (of which there are plenty, appropriately imho given the "occult secrets" side of the theme) hardware rendering ends up looking noticeably better than software, although I think there's still a certain gritty charm in software rendering. Basically, there's just not the same set of extended, gently graduated dark color ranges in the Wolf3D palette, so stuff can get a little odd and mushy as things get darker. This is a set where I sorta feel like the GlB+/ZDoom/GZ experience is more of the "true" visual experience for me, personally.

I agree that glen won the encounter-of-the-set crown! Also happy to hear the nice comments on the boss map. If there's one (or two?) things I love it's making the "bookends" of a set, finding a way to introduce a theme and ultimately bringing it to a hopefully fun and memorable conclusion.

Yeah I had trouble with this too.