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Post by deathevokation on Mar 15, 2024 16:37:07 GMT -5
So basically... it seems like this was kicked off by a harrassment campaign that Sweet Baby Inc started against a curator group for making a list of games that were tainted by awful story redesigns; that have so far gotten 3 gaming studios closed down.. this led to a bunch of coordinated articles from "gaming" sites targeting this curator and calling gamers evil.
Anyway here's a video I found useful.. the author attempts to be objective.
I have a prediction that this'll expose more industry corruption but eventually get rewritten in 10 years time into a "harrassment campaign" and the truth will get gaslighted into hiding..
I guess we'll see? Hopefully it's fun to watch.
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Post by thundercunt on Mar 15, 2024 16:45:54 GMT -5
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Post by ketmar on Mar 15, 2024 19:39:21 GMT -5
oh… yet again. "gamers revolt", yeah.
"arrrgh! we are gamers! we don't need no shit anymore!" (rushes to buy more shit.)
just. stop. "buying". games. at all.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Mar 15, 2024 19:48:00 GMT -5
at least the overall woke cringe and bear sex was getting somewhat entertaining for the wrong reasons lately. the industry otherwise has little to offer other than the occasional indie effort imo
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Post by nnnvork on Mar 15, 2024 21:52:39 GMT -5
at least the overall woke cringe and bear sex was getting somewhat entertaining for the wrong reasons lately... Nah, you're thinking about Gaymur's Gate 3, the one that came out last year. I'm half-way through that one at the moment. I lost the bear druid to some nasty goblins while trying to save him in the castle, so I don't get to sex him - furry subplot failed. But, I still have a chance to circle-back and finish that one quest where you stop that one night-hag from grooming 12-year-old boys into going onto hormones and thinking they are lesbians. |
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Post by switchblade on Mar 16, 2024 8:50:44 GMT -5
Why is purple featured so flagrantly in half of those games? It's like some kind of aposematism. |
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Post by senpaigru on Mar 16, 2024 11:46:51 GMT -5
Due to how dogshit most triple A games have been in the past several years ive been mostly playing older games (like most people, I imagine). I've also kind of rediscovered a love for Japanese games as well since theyre not trying to make a social statement and are more focused on entertaining you, the customer.
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Post by suzerduzer on Mar 16, 2024 23:42:16 GMT -5
This feels like such a forced controversy lol. Even the name "Sweet Baby Inc." feels like it was engineered specifically to piss off conservative gamer bros online. Life's too short to care about some consulting companies proofreading or whatever I'm supposed to be angry about here.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Mar 17, 2024 1:20:27 GMT -5
It's fine for people to be upset about ponzi schemes, particularly when they have significant social impact and that's essentially what the whole esg dei thing is at it's core. I think the focus on one tiny arm of it is a bit absurd but I also understand that a lot of regular people don't really understand it as a whole so it's easy to focus on the things most visible to them. I know I certainly didn't fully understand what was going on back when I almost entirely stopped consuming new media like a decade ago. I just saw a huge dip in quality and a bunch of over the top progressive stuff shoe horned into everything.
Having said that it is a house of cards built on even more houses of cards so like all ponzi schemes it's collapse is inevitable. We've seen more than our fair share of that playing out for quite some time.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Mar 17, 2024 4:42:13 GMT -5
Nah, you're thinking about Gaymur's Gate 3, the one that came out last year. I'm half-way through that one at the moment. I lost the bear druid to some nasty goblins while trying to save him in the castle, so I don't get to sex him - furry subplot failed. But, I still have a chance to circle-back and finish that one quest where you stop that one night-hag from grooming 12-year-old boys into going onto hormones and thinking they are lesbians. |
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Post by RastaManGames on Mar 17, 2024 12:20:20 GMT -5
just. stop. "buying". games. at all. This is the main problem. >  I've stopped buying digital dogshit few years ago. Fucking rednecks that is calling themselves a "gamers" still buying crappy bullshit. Because of customers like these, copro-RATs gonna do any vile tricks and get away with tons of profit. |
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Post by Killer5 on Mar 17, 2024 17:02:59 GMT -5
Tbh one of the most telling stories so far has been the Helldivers 2 drama around alphabet people groups trying to insert their dumb flags etc into the game.
Tbh will probably buy and try out Helldivers 2 after I look into the game more and make sure that studio isn't going to cave and insert our absolutely idiotic politics into their game.
Tbh this whole thing could be a distraction. Especially with that tictok bill which passed the house. Need to read into that bill to see how generalized that pos actually is.
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Post by ketmar on Mar 18, 2024 0:00:55 GMT -5
This feels like such a forced controversy lol. Even the name "Sweet Baby Inc." feels like it was engineered specifically to piss off conservative gamer bros online. actually, those "woked" dumbasses are really that dumb. i mean, of course, they wanted some drama. but they were sure that they easily win any fight, because they are so Progressive, and Inclusive, and so on. the first corporate with enough balls to say: "oh, fuck off, twitterites!" will win a shitload of money. people will buy any their crap for those words alone. just look at "hogwarts legacy" — all that twitter drama only boosted the sales. |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Mar 18, 2024 0:38:54 GMT -5
actually, those "woked" dumbasses are really that dumb. Yep. They aren't playing some 5D chess. The ground level true believer, useful idiot types like sweet baby inc really are just full of self absorbed, participation trophy millennials with zero self awareness. Tbh this whole thing could be a distraction. Especially with that tictok bill which passed the house. Need to read into that bill to see how generalized that pos actually is. Even if the claims it's so restrictive it won't hurt anything but tiktok were true (which they don't entirely appear to be from my reading) I currently give far less of a shit that the ccp may be manipulating and spying on people than a certain other government that has a far more direct impact on our lives doing so. I'd care more about China if they actually had any authority over me. Doubt they're related though. The tiktok bill was going to drop out of the news cycle fairly quick regardless. |
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Post by SilverMiner on Mar 18, 2024 2:32:06 GMT -5
just. stop. "buying". games. at all. uh, can't stop, never did |
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Post by ketmar on Mar 18, 2024 2:36:48 GMT -5
just. stop. "buying". games. at all. uh, can't stop, never did then start doing it, and then immediately stop. |
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Post by suzerduzer on Mar 18, 2024 10:58:25 GMT -5
the first corporate with enough balls to say: "oh, fuck off, twitterites!" will win a shitload of money. people will buy any their crap for those words alone. just look at "hogwarts legacy" — all that twitter drama only boosted the sales. Ehh I'm not convinced that doing that would have a positive impact on their revenue. The whole reason companies feign progressive behavior is just to draw in as many sales as possible. As annoying as advertisers are they do what they do cause they've found it makes companies more money to alienate as few potential customers as they can. Hogwart's Legacy did so well because it's a decent & generic open world game themed around one of the world's biggest IPs, not cause Warner Brothers bravely pushed back on "woke" ideology. The Twitter drama over it was pretty one sided from left wing armchair activists, I personally didn't really see any conservative praise for it or anything. This consulting company is only ever hired because companies perceive their work as helping increase sales. |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Mar 18, 2024 11:31:49 GMT -5
The feigning of progressive values isn't for sales though, it's to acquire financing.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Mar 18, 2024 11:39:20 GMT -5
this whole idea that woke values exist not to alienate anyone in the large market sounds ironically like progressive bullshit to me (that has been repeated for quite some time at this point), the amount of stuff that goes "broke" tells me otherwise. if anything it's indeed being forced and they're going to call you a right wing conspiracy theorist for noticing, big surprise. even hogwarts legacy had the token trans character to appease the mob after all
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Post by ketmar on Mar 18, 2024 13:47:18 GMT -5
Ehh I'm not convinced that doing that would have a positive impact on their revenue. The whole reason companies feign progressive behavior is just to draw in as many sales as possible. …and that's exactly what will happen if they'll show twitterites The Middle Finger. because twitterites never buy games anyway, and real customers are fed up of "woke" shit. being "the first big company with balls" will boost the sales. maybe not by a magnitude, but it will definitely won't make them worse. This consulting company is only ever hired because companies perceive their work as helping increase sales. and they are wrong. big companies' CEOs still believe that twitterited and "game journalists" are key factors to success. which can't be further from the truth. as for "sweet baby", they were simply using a blackmail strategy: "hire us, or else we'll initiate a twitter shitstorm". the only good answer to this is "go fuck yourself". |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Mar 19, 2024 10:08:26 GMT -5
Unless you're cool with kernel level anticheat I'd avoid. I still remember a time when a game would be nuked into oblivion by everyone for using something like this. |
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Post by Killer5 on Mar 19, 2024 18:05:22 GMT -5
StodgyAyatollahSeriously? They are using it too? Well at least I still have l4d2, my snes, and my genesis to fall back on. Ty for the heads up. Curious now if even crap like Elden Ring uses that nonsense. Still remember when Doom Eternal introduced that. Just kind of stopped playing it. Not like it was any better than Doom pwads thankfully.
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Post by ketmar on Mar 19, 2024 23:24:09 GMT -5
yay, what a combo. multiplayer-only game, plus a free rootkit. beast deal ever.
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Post by deathevokation on Mar 28, 2024 9:35:35 GMT -5
This feels like such a forced controversy lol. Even the name "Sweet Baby Inc." feels like it was engineered specifically to piss off conservative gamer bros online. Life's too short to care about some consulting companies proofreading or whatever I'm supposed to be angry about here. Oh I absolutely agree it feels forced tbh, both sides were very quick to agree it was GG2... you're wrong on the second part, there's a very very real market crash that's going to happen in video gaming soon so I think the journalists are preemptively blaming it on gamers and not on the trash games themselves.. the money from ESG turns out to not be profitable in the long term because the supply of the funds isn't infinite, because your basically writing offensively bland "stories", telling fans "they're not going to get what they want" to fill in check boxes and oftentimes the lore gets overwritten and franchises get ruined (they kill off or replace male super heroes in the universe). Newer franchises built from the ground up like Forspoken ended up having copies get put into landfills and an entire studio layed off. They seem only able to inject it into long running IPs without it dying immediately, but looking at Suicide Squad it looks like it's only a matter of time before they run out of other people's IPs to ruin. Agree with Ketmar, best to just not buy stuff that's "ok we'll give you your video game, but you have to consume this side slop as well instead of an interesting story". |
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Post by suzerduzer on Mar 28, 2024 18:06:08 GMT -5
there's a very very real market crash that's going to happen in video gaming soon so I think the journalists are preemptively blaming it on gamers and not on the trash games themselves.. I agree that we're going to see a crash in AAA gaming soon but I don't think this sort of thing has anything to do with it. We're seeing game development get more and more expensive every year, while also taking longer and longer to come out. Game studios are also burning through talent at mach speed, and in the end we end up getting so many of the boring, uninteresting games that have been coming out as of late. Developers get worn down, new devs are brought in, and at the end of the studios 5-7 year development cycle you end up with a product with no real personality or direction behind it (see Suicide Squad, Starfield, every Blizzard game, etc.). The whole industry seems super unsustainable at the moment, and I think we're going to see a lot of junior developers jumping off AAA game dev for better paying, more secure jobs in other tech fields. |
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