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Post by thundercunt on Sept 16, 2023 9:11:15 GMT -5
It's just me or this is totally fake? It seems like they added some static effect over footage of the game running smoothly at 35 FPS
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Post by ketmar on Sept 16, 2023 10:01:41 GMT -5
dunno. i want to see HolyC source. very suspicious. sound is especially suspicious, considering that TempleOS has no soundcard support, only speaker. of course, they could implement SB driver, but…
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Post by SilverMiner on Sept 16, 2023 11:42:29 GMT -5
TempleOS has no soundcard support thus TempleOS is not holy. Q.E.D.
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Post by thundercunt on Sept 16, 2023 12:07:35 GMT -5
dunno. i want to see HolyC source. very suspicious. sound is especially suspicious, considering that TempleOS has no soundcard support, only speaker. of course, they could implement SB driver, but… Yeah, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't publish the source if this was legit. And taking a look at this channel's other content I realized they are mostly focused on publishing pure garbage. I think this video is just a very, very bizarre clickbait.
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Post by dn on Sept 16, 2023 12:15:07 GMT -5
this doom port looks pretty heretical to me. Thou shalt use 16 colours ONLY.
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Post by 40oz on Sept 16, 2023 14:16:09 GMT -5
I don't know what TempleOS is but I think the 'got doom running on absurd technology' crowd has been skating by recently with simply using anything with a digital display as a monitor to run doom while the game itself is being played from a more practical device.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 17:52:36 GMT -5
I don't know what TempleOS is A long time ago some fundamentalist loony made from scratch an operating system whose standard was dictated to them by God, Moses style. It runs like shit and you can't do anything with it except spitting out random Bible quotes and a couple of fundie-inspired games. It's a curio thing, nothing more, and it certainly can't run Doom as is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 18:36:43 GMT -5
I think it's a bit reductive to describe Terry Davis as a "fundamentalist loony." He was a clearly talented programmer and even if his ideas on religion were out-there and not really what I subscribe to I think he deserves to be known with a bit more respect. He suffered from a severe mental illness that eventually claimed his life. Nonetheless TempleOS is, even if not really practical or useful for anything, a fun and cool thing and I'm glad it exists.
If you've never heard of him or of TempleOS I do highly recommend watching this documentary on him, he and his project are quite fascinating.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Sept 16, 2023 19:17:45 GMT -5
terry did nothing wrong, though i do find the glowie maymay to be his greatest contribution to public discourse
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Post by ketmar on Sept 17, 2023 1:46:08 GMT -5
It runs like shit and you can't do anything with it except spitting out random Bible quotes and a couple of fundie-inspired games. It's a curio thing, nothing more, and it certainly can't run Doom as is. actually, this is not completely right. ;-) TempleOS is fully-featured 64-bit OS, with proper multitasking, and very powerful CLI (you can call compiled HolyC code directly from CLI). it also has a working window system, and a lot of built-in documentation, which can be easily browsed, and in many areas much better than *nix mans. TempleOS is very stable and usable (if you will consider its architecture, and won't go crazy modifying system areas or working directly with random ports; yet allowing such things is not an oversight, but a conscious design decision). it surely cannot run Doom as-is, though, because TempleOS has its own C dialect (HolyC), and its own compiler for it, written from scratch. but it is definitely possible to port Doom code to HolyC. yet it will require quite huge amount of work, both in converting Doom to 64-bit clean code, and to write at least audio drivers for SoundBlaster (because default TempleOS supports only PC speaker). one will also need a dithering engine to convert 256-color Doom screens to 16-color. (this is what TempleOS is using, only 16 color mode. not 16-bit color, just 16 colors! ;-)
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Post by GRUG on Oct 3, 2023 22:40:54 GMT -5
I highly doubt Doom can run off Temple OS. I don’t think the HolyC programming language is compatible with MSDOS.
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Post by mrmasker on Oct 5, 2023 14:19:44 GMT -5
If you've never heard of him or of TempleOS I do highly recommend watching this documentary on him, he and his project are quite fascinating. The Down the Rabbit Hole video really is the best video out there on Temple OS and Terry IMO.
It just tells the story as it is, no dumb remarks and/or armchair psychiatry from the video creator. Have always enjoyed Fred Knudsen's content.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Oct 5, 2023 15:41:16 GMT -5
quite ironic that knudsen has been spelunking the rabbit hole himself lately. be a lolcow tuber, shit on the forum that made you popular, become the lolcow
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Post by hex11 on Nov 30, 2023 22:18:35 GMT -5
He should've just ported Catacomb 3-D instead. That's EGA and PC speaker, so it doesn't need any special tricks. It's still impressive if this Doom port is legit, but ultimately kinda pointless. But I found another game recently that used interesting tricks on an old 8-bit computer: www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=13359This computer has 3 official video modes. Some demoscene releases make their own video modes by tweaking registers in CRTC or Gate Array chip, but this game works a little differently. It was already very common from the early days of Amstrad to mix two different videos modes on the same screen, most notably mode 0 and mode 1 in two different vertical parts of the screen. Mode 0 is 16 colors and low-res, so good for game graphics, and mode 1 is 4 colors and medium-res, and suitable for status bar and text (the last one, mode 2 is seldom used in games because it's only 2 colors and highres). Anyway the trick he used in this game was to alternate every other line between mode 0 and mode 1. Like one guy in the comments says, it ends up looking more like an Atari ST game than 8-bit Amstrad.
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Post by dn on Nov 30, 2023 23:51:06 GMT -5
That looks less like doom and more like mahjong.
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Post by TheFantasticFungiFan on Dec 1, 2023 5:19:36 GMT -5
That looks less like doom and more like mahjong. Just because there's a Chinese guy and a dragon doesn't make it mahjong. It could be Shadow Warrior.
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Post by dn on Dec 1, 2023 6:38:31 GMT -5
I don't know if this is racist or not but I fucking hate Chinese takeaway. And don't tell me "waa waa waa it's not the real authentic Chinese taste, the *real* Chinese takeaway tastes amazing" because the man that cooked it was fucking Chinese.
(edit): I mean "Sweet and Sour" is not something anyone in their right mind would combine into one dish. "Sweet and Sour" isn't the flavour of a delicious meal, it's something you'd expect to taste if you were drinking six week old bin juice.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Dec 1, 2023 7:12:52 GMT -5
Chinese food in the west is adapted to western palates. Some people distinguish a separate "Chinese American" cuisine or whatever it's called. But either way it's a sign of an inferior culture that you don't have your own takeaway food.
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Post by dn on Dec 1, 2023 7:49:40 GMT -5
oh yeah because eating out of a fucking cardboard box with wooden micro-sporks is the height of cultured haute cuisine, I hear all the cool first world countries are doing it.
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Post by ketmar on Dec 1, 2023 12:56:08 GMT -5
if Chineese culture is so superior, why didn't they invented Doom first?
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Post by hex11 on Dec 1, 2023 15:24:00 GMT -5
> Just because there's a Chinese guy and a dragon doesn't make it mahjong. It could be Shadow Warrior. Yeah it's a mahjong game. The way he did the graphics was interesting though. The mode switching isn't the hard part, because you can easily do that after every line during the horizontal blank. But he had to create two sets of tiles in both graphics modes that would get mixed together and look nice. Makes me think he wrote a custom graphics editor just for that. But now I thought about TempleOS again, and the main reason it's pointless to port Doom to it is that you're just running Doom on the same exact PC that can already run Doom. And since TempleOS doesn't restrict you in any way, he probably just switched to another video mode with more colors. Dunno about the soundblaster though.
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Post by TheFantasticFungiFan on Dec 2, 2023 17:52:09 GMT -5
I don't know if this is racist or not but I fucking hate Chinese takeaway. And don't tell me "waa waa waa it's not the real authentic Chinese taste, the *real* Chinese takeaway tastes amazing" because the man that cooked it was fucking Chinese. (edit): I mean "Sweet and Sour" is not something anyone in their right mind would combine into one dish. "Sweet and Sour" isn't the flavour of a delicious meal, it's something you'd expect to taste if you were drinking six week old bin juice. Never been a fan of it myself - the "sweet and sour" sauce combined with the extreme amount of sodium that they use for EVERYTHING makes the food taste like McDonald's with hobo cum on it. And the food isn't so cheap after you factor in the cost of antacids and likely a plumber.
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