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Post by optimus on Mar 1, 2022 19:06:01 GMT -5
They made me hate seeing this blue yellow flag. Their virtue signalling had the opposite effect.
"I stand with the good TM things"
Or what the media tells me it's right.
But previously I had no idea what's happening at the other side of the world.
It's a switch from what was trending in the news before.
Then the news with all these sensational stories, half of the footage not being part of this conflict.
"But it doesn't matter, the sentiment matters!"
Yeah,. the same "sentiment" that is manufactured to make the NPCs switch to whatever is the new badge of honour now. Put emojis, hashtags, pronouns on your bio.
And if you criticise it, it means to them you are with the bad guys. You are bad things apologist.
Mass Formation Psychosis driven through the mainstream and social media.
p.s. I even have to preface this with a disclaimer (what a shame I even have to do that), I absolutely don't support what Russia is doing right now. I am just sick of the sensationalism and the barrage of virtue signal ukranian flag emojis, when most of these people (me included) didn't even know few days ago what's happening in this country (or where it's even in the map). And it might be obvious that one country is the invader and another the invaded, so it's not hard to pick up your preferred flag and think you are signalling how pure and full of love and consideration you suddenly are. But when the media was doing sensational propaganda on other issues closer to our daily lives, like the pro-masks/lockdown propaganda, when some countries went full authoritarian, they were painting protesters as antivaxxers Qanon lunatics. You had the truckers in Canada being treated badly, blocking monetary support, demonizing those who supported them, while it was way more peaceful than what you'd see with BLM literally doing way more damage but being praised by mainstream media and politicians! The same politician now giving speeches how they fight for democracy or something. The issue is mass media propagandize with something, the normies just copy it and make emojis on their profiles suddenly one day while yesterday they didn't know anything about it, and think everyone who doesn't support the mainstream must be a bad person. What if tomorrow the mainstream script was pro Russian and anti Ukranian? I bet I'd see normies putting the russian flag on their profiles (among with their pronouns and other identity crap). That's what pisses me off. I can't live in a world where there is a pavlovian mob who is controlled by these powers. They can switch them to promote whatever they want. One day they can switch them to think "YOU are the NAZI".
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Mar 1, 2022 20:33:44 GMT -5
The mainstream script has been pro-Russian for decades now. Except the Russia is called America while the Ukraine varies. For a while it was Vietnam, then Kuwait, then Serbia, then Iraq, then Afghanistan, then Syria and I'm probably missing a few.
Wake up sheeple, America has been doing THIS VERY THING for DECADES in MULTIPLE countries. COMPLETELY UNPUNISHED.
And that's with Russia actually being careful. If this was America, Kiev would've been a pile of rubble by now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 22:53:34 GMT -5
Quick post: yes, I agree with you on this virtual signaling thing. If one wants practically support Ukraine, there are ways to donate money, and it seems there are ways to enlist to fight for Ukraine in some sort of "Ukraine Foreign Legion" thing (do your research well before attempting these things, as I didn't research it myself - Russian government already tracks anyone who donates from Russia to Ukraine, one needs to find a way to do so anonymously).
And an ALARM: I had Cloudflare present me a challenge upon refreshing pages on doomer boards while logged in. I didn't do shit in my browser. I don't know what's happened. Might lose access? The Cloudflare thing disappeared after I closed the browser entirely, and launched again, if you're wondering how I am writing this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 23:13:32 GMT -5
Sorry for double post, but I had it happen again. Had to restart browser again. I noticed I might have accidently took off the "Remember me" flag upon logging in - session running out might be the cause?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 23:55:44 GMT -5
Actually, I wish I could delete my posts above, because silencing those who claim they support Ukraine is not what I want, even if those people do it without real empathy and out of leftist partisanship.
Countries throughout the world absolutely must continue to support Ukraine. Remember that Putin threatened entire world with "consequences yet unseen". His doctrine is literally "world doesn't have the right to exist without Russia", although he didn't bother to explain why Russia needs to be in his yoke for the world to continue to exist. He said that Ukrainian people aren't a nation and have no history. Before war, the message centered on "we don't NATO close to our borders" but the offical defense for invasion is that we are "denazificating" (read: dehumanizing, treating with prejudice) Ukraine.
The anti-"virtue signaling" message must be interpreted carefully. Ukrainian do deserve and do need support. It's just hashtags aren't support. Make sure your support for Ukraine results in real things that affect the war's outcome or at least save Ukrainian lives.
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Post by dmdr on Mar 2, 2022 2:30:49 GMT -5
The mainstream script has been pro-Russian for decades now. Except the Russia is called America while the Ukraine varies. For a while it was Vietnam, then Kuwait, then Serbia, then Iraq, then Afghanistan, then Syria and I'm probably missing a few. Wake up sheeple, America has been doing THIS VERY THING for DECADES in MULTIPLE countries. COMPLETELY UNPUNISHED. And that's with Russia actually being careful. If this was America, Kiev would've been a pile of rubble by now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 3:33:07 GMT -5
He doesn't know shit. I didn't comment his post earlier because I have him under ignore. They are destroying cities, but Kiev is of course not a pile of rubble because war is not as easy as you think. Putin is absolutely mad that he is failing, one of the latests captives who was a mechanic in tank crew said they were given orders to shoot anything, and that means civilians too. Civilian protesters (in Ukraine) are now also threatened to have fire opened upon them by soldiers - Russian soldiers didn't consider it at first, but apparently the orders have changed. I have not figured if civilian protesters were fired upon already.
What you are shown on Russian TV is a lie. You want Russian-speaking Telegram channels, visit here:
t.me/yo_info - #PutinGoOut, formerly "Russian ship, go fuck yourself". Permanent part of name seems to be "Вторжение INFO" ("Invasion Info")
t.me/UkrainianWitness - this recently started a page on Facebook for the rest of the world, probably in english (didn't check, as I don't use facebook). The channel is in Russian
t.me/Lepragram - biggest of the ones I suscribed too. It was the first, because I was shown by a real-life female acquitance, who is eligible to serve in Russian military by the way (although is going to avoid that "duty" in Ukraine), because she was born in war-dedicated city
There is also "Московский телеграф", subscription only, one needs to be send an invite by friends, or you could do it from Lepragram channel, it was the second one I have suscripted to.
NOTE these channels are not advised to people who aren't Russian-speaking, because context is important, they sometimes mention what Russian side says too, sometimes complementing such posts with disclaimer of it being a lie, sometimes simply posting who in Russia said what with no disclaimer. They also use Ukrainian language for some posts.
It's not a war of Putin vs Zelensky, it's a war that is waged against all Ukrainian people. Some 80,000 people recently returned to Ukraine, including men who returned to defend it. And Zelensky is a brave man who didn't not flee Kiev when it got surrounded early on, unlike coward Putin, who can't even allow common Russian people near him in peacetime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 3:49:24 GMT -5
By the way, t.me/UkrainianWitness just asked everyone to share this video:
Shows the destruction of Mariupol. I have not seen it yet (I have to go through a lot of hoops to watch videos on youtube, as I can only do this by downloading them).
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Mar 2, 2022 5:37:51 GMT -5
Yes exactly. You guys opened the pandora's box. Now live with the consequences. This is your fault more than you wanna admit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 6:45:26 GMT -5
Do you tho? Nobody knows for real what the actual fuck is going on in UA aside from propaganda and occasional telegram posts. Calm your fucking heads, dolboebs and just wait the end of this, when at least somewhat resembling an actual info will get summarised and checked out for not being a honest to god shitty agitprop from both sides. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 6:49:41 GMT -5
Kiev is of course not a pile of rubble because war is not as easy as you think. Kiev haven't been turned into Grozny 2.0 yet because that's the city that can be legit called the Craddle of Slavs, of all modern slavic nations existing there. The city on its own, thus, have a very significant meaning, not only for Ukrainians, but for Russians, Belorussians, probably other slavs. The point is, destroying city completely like it have happened in 90s with Gozny would mean no positive consiquence for anyone, it will blow morale of both sides. Nobody wants the Mother\Father of Slav cities to turn fucking ashes because of retards in ua-\rugovt. If you fail to realise that I have no good news for you in this regard. it's a war that is waged against all Ukrainian people. Cut the bullshit, will ya. You remind me of one particular shit eater from kiwifarms thread right now, that keep spewing relatively same nonsense as you now. |
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Post by 40oz on Mar 2, 2022 9:39:08 GMT -5
Cut the bullshit, will ya. You remind me of one particular shit eater from kiwifarms thread right now, that keep spewing relatively same nonsense as you now. Who are they targeting if they're firing missiles at schools?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 10:47:19 GMT -5
Who are they targeting if they're firing missiles at schools? No idea, nor do I care atm, really. Last time I heard, "Azov" boys (which, by the matter of fact, are neo-nazis, as much as "the Right Sector") are using civvie buldings as fire spots and people as shields. Going trough some of the sources it checks out. Also, if you're about to blame me to protect actions of my govt - I don't. I just look at the shit from both points of view. Also, it makes shit fun knowing that the whole world is so "united" over Ukraine grievances yet completely fucking forgot about, say, Yemen and the war that goes there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 11:14:47 GMT -5
Putin invited this response with threats towards entire world in his speech, he made the destruction of the world official doctrine of his regime, the threat being perceived as very real because he would cross any red lines even to kill his own people who oppose him, located both abroad and the country he runs, with forbidden weapons like Novichok. Belarus' also was punished in the past not for just capturing a dissident, you know, but for the way it has done and the way it threatened safety of other nations.
The objective of sanctions is fragmeting the uber-rich corrupt Russian elite to the point they may decide Putin does not represent their interests anymore, and that it's best to betray him and try to negotiate their hides with the rest of the world instead. Which is something I totally support and aid by coldheartedly withdrawing large sums of money (yeah, I have some) from my bank account in order to promote panic and money runaway from banks. I want to do my part of collapsing Russian economy too. I am confident I'll find a way to survive anyway even with repeat of 1998-style rouble crash.
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Post by dmdr on Mar 3, 2022 1:29:51 GMT -5
Yes exactly. You guys opened the pandora's box. Now live with the consequences. This is your fault more than you wanna admit. not American fwiw. More to the point, why are your takes always so bad? This one's p much the opposite of the truth, which is that yank weakness is the direct cause of this. Warfare deaths worldwide declined after 1945 and then again after 1990 (after the Soviets collapsed) which is precisely when the states was running round at its most annoyingly interventionist. Do you think that war and invasions didn't exist until 1776 or something? |
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Mar 3, 2022 1:48:42 GMT -5
My takes on everything are always 100% objectively correct and I am always right. Nothing personnel kid. 😎
Nato and Russia agreed in 1990 that the Berlin wall can go down on the condition that Nato doesn't expand eastwards. Then Nato did, violating the deal, accepting almost all ex Communist countries (except based Serbia that got bombed much like Ukraine now lololol) and now everyone's like pikachuface.jpg. Why can't America just do what it wants???????????????? Clown world huh.
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Post by dmdr on Mar 3, 2022 2:12:37 GMT -5
America isn't NATO. We're talking about American wars in a conversation started by you. Stop being such a slippery little fucker and defend your thesis that American invasions (some of those you listed weren't invasions, but w/e) mostly outside of Europe caused Russia to attack the Ukraine somehow.
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