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Post by good-old on Jul 29, 2021 1:42:01 GMT -5
So yeah, it's about time we had a group in any instant messaging platform sometime, and if there's gonna be one, it has to be something other than Discord, considering it's proprietary and knows as much as Google about you and whatnot. What could we make one on?
It's finally here! Join #doomer-boards on OFTC IRC.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jul 29, 2021 3:34:37 GMT -5
Last time we had a Discord server, it didn't end too well. Just saying!
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Post by 40oz on Jul 29, 2021 7:27:12 GMT -5
A lot of forums have rules about double posting or posting too much to the point of being annoying. I see this often makes people feel very reserved in what they say here, which is kinda sad.
I like when people talk about stuff going on in their lives, or even some weird fleeting thought that comes to mind. Posts appear here instantly, so it's not very far off from a instant messaging platform, really. Assuming people are willing to treat this like one.
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Post by good-old on Jul 29, 2021 8:41:45 GMT -5
Posts do instantly appear here, but forums are kinda made for big high effort posts(not necessarily a bad thing), and it's a lot more natural for people to make two small posts in an instant messenger(would've dropped an lmao at Xeep's post if this was an instant messenger)rather than a forum. There's also single word messages like "hi" which are intended to start a convo, and chains, and ofc Gen Z's favorite, mental breakdown posts. These things aren't really meant for forums. That's neither a pro or con. Also instant messaging usually meant to be run in the background while you do other stuff but it isn't really the same for forums, they don't notify you instantly when someone makes a post.(only exception I know is Invision, the software DW uses)
I'm not trying to shift the community to an instant messaging platform(forums are and will always be better imo) I'm just saying that it'd be no harm to have a group in one of them. The fact that that you don't need to refresh for new messages makes them better suited for small convos(I forgot the specific word, but you get it)
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Post by dr_st on Jul 29, 2021 10:00:08 GMT -5
IRC, people, get a frigging IRC channel!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 10:29:05 GMT -5
Looking at prism-break.org/en/all/ , scroll down via Ctrl+F "Discord", and we get some contrived alternatives to choose from... I guess we'll need to decide on XMPP server and then we can connect to it: - via ChatSecure on iOS - via Conversations on Android ( github.com/iNPUTmice/Conversations ) - Psi for Windows and GNU/Linux system First two options should natively support OMEMO for encryption of private group or individual chats. Public groups which anyone can join are unencrypted. Psi supports OMEMO via plugin, and this is the only kind of encryption protocol avaiable in group chats in Psi. I hope these all are interoperable, in any case if encryption is not desired, might have an easier life with client compatibility. And yes, this option should prevent anyone from having to associate themselves with a fucking phone number, otherwise Signal would have been good because I have already used it.
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Post by good-old on Jul 29, 2021 10:32:13 GMT -5
I do prefer forums too. I mentioned why I made this thread in the second paragraph of my previous post. There is nothing wrong with joe's server either. I'm not intending to make a replacement for forums, not at all. The reason I'm looking for something else is a lot of members here don't have accounts on it, although for understandable reasons.
IRC is cool. That might be what I'm looking for. I hardly ever used it before(WormNet is the only network I go on)Let's see what other people think of it.
Also that alternatives list looks cool. I'll wait two more days for people to suggest more and then make a poll.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 11:10:53 GMT -5
Ok, it looks like I've found an IRC client I might use. It's called HexChat. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HexChatAnd there is a good IRC network: www.oftc.net/that even permits the use of Tor to connect. Means that if server gets blocked in some country because of stupid censorship, there might be a way to bypass the block.
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Post by good-old on Jul 30, 2021 10:20:22 GMT -5
Impatience is real www.strawpoll.me/45533908Just make sure you know about all of them and how they work, what features they have and stuff, before voting.
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Post by dn on Jul 30, 2021 10:55:21 GMT -5
for the record I fucking hate discord. And as for an official Hitlerboards™ chat... fuck, I can barely be bothered reading the posts here to make sure there isn't any utterly haram retardation going on, there is no fucking way I want to babysit a bunch of mentally incompetent discord diaperfags as a side gig.
Point is that site-adjacent shit almost always end up with secondary mods. And those two power structures *will* end up in competition with each other, and the discord mods - the cool tranny wine aunts who UwU at your retardation and don't terminate speds on fucking principle - *will* end up on top in any eventual community coup. That, my friends, is how you end up with the shower of incompetents that turn communities into a commune of fucking psuedo-commie pod-people / reddit.
Search your jimmies, you know it to be true.
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Post by good-old on Jul 30, 2021 12:39:34 GMT -5
joe's server has existed for a long time without any problems at all. There's a lot of other examples too, it doesn't always have to happen(but it does happen), and I'm not making it on discord, and I'm only willing to take ownership of the chat if none of the admins(or one of the mods) here joins, so there shouldn't be any problem with two power structures. If none of the staff joins, trust me bruh I didn't stay active here for so long just to do that. Also I don't know why but the word "haram" always gets me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 13:08:45 GMT -5
good-old, of course it would, since you grew up conditioned to treat it like an existential threat. Humans, just like other animals, have a survival instinct, but not only direct threats of death are the ones that condition human behavior, but also the threat of being denied care by a parent and community which is also interpreted as a threat to one's own survival, hence adoption of behavior that doesn't result in denial of that care. There also exists a mechanism of projecting the adopted set of restrictions onto others (demanding they obey the same restrictions)... As for running a server, I wish you could actually do something about securing your own future rather than serving this community at your own expense. Your parents won't support you monetary forever, you have to think of how'll you get the income you need to maintain the desired lifestyle, and that's a subject that is posited like an iceberg, once you dive underwater you'll see it's very big, and education is a very important part of it.
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Post by good-old on Jul 30, 2021 13:30:37 GMT -5
@vigilantdoomer when I said it gets me I meant it makes me laugh, lol. I didn't hear that word very often because it's almost considered a swear here for whatever reason, and thankfully Islam here isn't that restrictive, which is why I can type this here right now. A lot of common things are considered haram for silly reasons in Saudi Arabia, art(especially of live creatures), music, and I assume games and unrestricted internet access too(my grandparents once went there for this pilgrimage thingy called Haj and in the hotel where they stayed when they weren't doing it, the reception had wifi, but the individual rooms didn't (can't fap to porn publicly in the reception, so yeah). Religion is hell.
As for my future, ._.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 13:38:00 GMT -5
Cool it makes you laugh then. Also Islamic terrorists are pedophiles, because virgin lovers are always pedophiles, and these murder-suicide obsessed seek to reward themselves with virgins in afterlife. And I think it's fun to taunt Islamic terrorists.
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Post by GRUG on Jul 30, 2021 13:50:19 GMT -5
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Post by dn on Jul 30, 2021 13:58:54 GMT -5
Cool it makes you laugh then. Also Islamic terrorists are pedophiles, because virgin lovers are always pedophiles, and these murder-suicide obsessed seek to reward themselves with virgins in afterlife. And I think it's fun to taunt Islamic terrorists. what that fuck does this have to do with anything see this is the sort of shit that makes me go oh yeah a fucking irc channel that will work well HI GUYZ I MADE PIZZA ISLAMIC TERRORISM IN BABYCUNT OH NOES GET ISLAM OUT OF BABBY VAGANLA HOW DO I MAKE VAGANLA IS IT PESTO COLD DEAD FINGERS MEDS MEDS I MEAN MODS EPSTIEN CAN'T MELT THROUGH YOUNG TEENS
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Post by good-old on Jul 30, 2021 13:59:03 GMT -5
Cool it makes you laugh then. Also Islamic terrorists are pedophiles, because virgin lovers are always pedophiles, and these murder-suicide obsessed seek to reward themselves with virgins in afterlife. And I think it's fun to taunt Islamic terrorists. They're a gold mine of meme material, really. I made a poll to decide, vote for IRC channel there.
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Post by good-old on Aug 1, 2021 13:26:34 GMT -5
what that fuck does this have to do with anything see this is the sort of shit that makes me go oh yeah a fucking irc channel that will work well HI GUYZ I MADE PIZZA ISLAMIC TERRORISM IN BABYCUNT OH NOES GET ISLAM OUT OF BABBY VAGANLA HOW DO I MAKE VAGANLA IS IT PESTO COLD DEAD FINGERS MEDS MEDS I MEAN MODS EPSTIEN CAN'T MELT THROUGH YOUNG TEENS We need more
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Aug 5, 2021 13:01:50 GMT -5
for the record I fucking hate discord. And as for an official Hitlerboards™ chat... fuck, I can barely be bothered reading the posts here to make sure there isn't any utterly haram retardation going on, there is no fucking way I want to babysit a bunch of mentally incompetent discord diaperfags as a side gig. Point is that site-adjacent shit almost always end up with secondary mods. And those two power structures *will* end up in competition with each other, and the discord mods - the cool tranny wine aunts who UwU at your retardation and don't terminate speds on fucking principle - *will* end up on top in any eventual community coup. That, my friends, is how you end up with the shower of incompetents that turn communities into a commune of fucking psuedo-commie pod-people / reddit. Search your jimmies, you know it to be true. Based and true.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 13:39:32 GMT -5
Then don't make it official. Simply find a replacement for Discord and that's it. Currently IRC leads... I don't mind it, but please make channel somewhere Tor is accepted.
Of course, too few votes still to make a final decision.
Also, preventing a coup completely shouldn't be a goal. We need coups to fix things like Doomworld or Zdoom forums. Putting a boot on schisms means people can't even correct shit if it actually gets broken (board gets hacked, or we all go insane because of alien rays and a reboot is needed). I'm not even sure if DBK will be forever home on Zdoom forums - what if eventually Zdoom mods go after those people, there is a number of them with seemingly right-wing views (doomro bro for example)?
I mean, some regimes in 21th century really deserve to be overthrown. Problem is, it is not the beginning of 20th century, so cannot happen. With 20th early tech, we crossed the melting point and the civil war ticking bomb long-time ago. Fucking Lukashenka holds for too long for the inept governor he is. But I've read (not yet finished) a bit of a book by Hillary Mantel "A Place of Greater Safety", and you know there is a depiction of the pre-revolution kingdom that was running out of money to pay for the "nobility"'s appetites, well guess somewhere the history has started repeating that pattern already.
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Post by good-old on Aug 5, 2021 14:08:24 GMT -5
It's nearly been a week and only 3-5 voted so far, bruh. Speaking of tor, I actually like it's concept and would definitely use the one you suggested, if IRC leads. I guess I'll wait until either of them reaches 8 votes. I'm fine with not making it official and all, all I want is an instant messaging groupchat. We don't really need a coup, if, in the extremely very highly unlikelyTMsituation happens where 40 turns into the typical DW mod, then we can simply create a new forum. We're not the kind of people that only uses what the majority uses, we know how to back out of something. Unlike some, or most people at DW. I don't know how I would feel if they would be banned or not, but let's hope they have a chance of coming back here, if they do.
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Post by dmdr on Aug 5, 2021 18:31:28 GMT -5
I would have voted but I don't really like IRC/Discord/chat in general all that much so I wouldn't use it and consequently my opinion doesn't matter
another useful post by ME
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Post by nxGangrel on Aug 6, 2021 9:10:08 GMT -5
We had a discord server?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 12:15:43 GMT -5
I took some more observations about myself, and I think instant messaging can soak up some of the rants, which are not related to the happening of the doomer boards but rather are external to it. Bitch about what you read, heard, etc. elsewhere out of the forum - there are definitely posts that don't deserve to be immortalized, because they can't really effect positive changes in people (for that you need a lot of hard work). So that stream of conscious can go into some dump, on the premise that all participants agree it's a dump, and won't hold grudges over shit discussed yesterday.
Problem is, if someone fails to see it that way.
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Post by good-old on Aug 19, 2021 13:11:06 GMT -5
So I got fucking bored because come on dude the poll still has 3-5 votes and it's been 3 weeks. Decided to make an IRC channel. Got HexChat and connected to OFTC but apparently it's only for open source software discussion. @vigilantdoomer do you have any suggestions for other IRC networks that allow connection through TOR?
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