Petition to denormalize 2 week notices

As long as you are not going to use them as a reference, I would leave abruptly as well.

Have you tried getting fired? I mean, if you are going to be there for two weeks, why not spend that time fucking about on youtube / subcontracting your job to the homeless guy who lives in the recycling bins behind the office?

It was a bullshit food service job to make some extra cash on the weekends. I gave half-assed effort (imo) and I was already magnitudes better than most of the employees who were working there. I was treated like a star employee. I'd have to be an aggressively terrible shithead to get fired, and it would involve creating more work for my coworkers, dealing with angry customers, and just ruining everyones day. It's not a fun work environment, it doesn't pay very well, and most people are only working there because their life is in such shambles they can't really find work anywhere else, so it doesn't do anything for me to make it worse for them.

What I really should have done is just ghosted them. Just picked a day to stop showing up and not answer any phone calls. It's a little fucked up because they scheduled me for the days, and it will burn them in the short term as they desperately call people in to fill in the shift that I flaked on, but honestly, it's just fucking weird for me to be still working there while they know they're going to have allocate resources they barely have to hire and train a new idiot to replace me, and have to pick up extra hours and labor after I go. It's much easier for them to try to convince me to stay since I'm a decent employee and already know the work and it's just really uncomfortable to keep telling them they can keep their fucking slave wages -- I don't need them and I don't wanna do this shit anymore.

You don't find it awkward having managers grovelling forlornly in order to retain your service? Cuz that shit makes me feel awkward.

If anyone needs to be a man, it's the fucking jilted manager of McFucko's Burgers.

I think like you did the right thing, and they did the right thing. Seems to me you are just a bit bothered by the awkwardness of the situation. Just don't take it so hard. Of course it's in their interest to try to keep you if you are a valued employee, there is nothing wrong with that. There is also nothing wrong with you politely and firmly saying "no, thank you", even if you need to repeat it a few times.

I've changed jobs a couple of times in my life, and due to the nature of the jobs, there always had to be a "notice period" of approximately 1 month, to finish up tasks, transfer knowledge, etc. Never had any problems during this period; everything was completely professional.

And yes, managers should want to know why people quit. If he did not ask you - he would be a bad manager. For two reasons - sometimes things really can be worked out. Maybe someone wants a raise, or some changes in schedule, etc - and surprise, surprise, sometimes the employer can accommodate it, and both parties will stay happy. The second reason is that even if this particular employee cannot be retained, a good manager should want to learn from this situation, for the future.

The groveling is annoying but like, what do you expect them to do? Magic a replacement into existence? In a mature world people should be given time to prepare for transitions and I don't see this as any different. I feel the same way about tenancy/eviction, in which case I was actually going to argue that two weeks notice is probably nowhere near enough - that's actually what I thought this was going to be about.

So yeah, the groveling aspect is pretty weird and unnecessary, and I get that having that pressure breathing down your neck can be awkward to say the least, but this just seems like fantasy talk. Pretty much in agreement with Bob and Xeep on this one.

Not gonna lie, I am fucking rofling. You have 100% changed my mind. Fuck programmers, may they rot in Java Gulag No. 5 (Chernobyl). May their cocks turn green and maggoty, may all their hopes be ash; the entire shit of India be upon them, may angry pitbulls rape them nightly from their slumber.

Am I grateful? Hell no!

Let me tell you something about the way the hierarchy of this company works. The CEO has to bullshit with fuckin richass throw money around stockholders to ensure them that his company is going to be profitable and continue growing so they don't sell shares. To do this he has to put pressure on the franchise owners to figure out a strategy on how to make the company more money. The franchise owner spends 6 days a week enjoying his lavish lifestyle, reaping the profits of the business, then drives in his convertible BMW to his house on the hills, and spends a few hours a week tracking the revenue and store inventory to look for overspending so he can report to his boss that he's actually doing something. When he finds something, he calls my manager who works 10 hour days 7 days a week to rip him a new asshole about why he's using too many paper towels or not magically bringing in new customers or some shit. Then the manager gets scared of losing his job because of how emotionally unstable the franchise owner is so he has to somehow make fucking magic happen at the store level.

That bad energy trickles down to the employees. The employees do literally all of the heavy lifting of the company. We prepare the food in the back, we follow the exact recipes and mass produce this shit in as little time as possible, ensure the food is being kept at the exact holding temperatures, we scrub the building clean, put on a smiling face and positive attitude to delight the each one of the hundreds of customers that come in per day even when our personal lives are in complete shambles and minimum wage is not nearly enough to get our life to any state of normalcy. Meanwhile, the manager has to relay what his piece of shit franchise owner said by barking at us about how we shouldn't be washing our hands as often, that we should reuse that old food so it doesn't marked as waste, and be DOUBLE as happy and jovial to the customers even when the customers see for themselves that the quality of the food has declined while the prices have increased. but also follow all the food safety rules at the same time because we have a health inspector coming this week.

There's enough people in the United States who don't know a fuck about cooking for themselves that they will go to fast food franchises multiple times a day to keep their bellies full, be pleased with the presentation on the outside while remaining willfully ignorant to the rotten insides of the industry that keeps it afloat. The people who work the counters that you want to scream at because your soda has ice in it when you asked for no ice have to bear the brunt of it. The people at the top make plenty money and it's their job to keep the people at the bottom so downtrodden that they're too scared to complain, and their opportunities lean so they have nowhere to go else they get evicted from their group home or their children starve.

I've worked in food service for a dozen years when I was younger and saved up 90% of my paychecks to put a down payment on my house that I currently reside in. I've since been able to move on to bigger and better opportunities. That would be the modern average American success story. That's what people tell me. What they don't know is that I came from a nurturing middle class suburban family that mostly had its ducks in a row. They were able and willing to house me and feed me during the whole time while I stayed there and played Doom for pretty much the entirety of it and gave nothing in return.

I remember the food service industry was pretty bad at the time, but having gotten out of it for almost a decade, and coming back to it with a fresh perspective I can see that it's gotten so much worse. Many of my coworkers are single parents with kids and an abusive spouse. Some have alcoholic family members they are taking care of, or have some sort of addiction they are coping with themselves. Some have narcissistic manipulative parents or siblings who coax them for money. Some of them are non-english speaking, live deep in the city surrounded by crime and chaos, have to pay for public transportation just to get to their job that pays them pennies, working long hours away from their kids. It's all really fucked up. There's no way they could possibly walk in my same footsteps and get out of this. They're in too deep and its not even their fault. At least I have the privilige of saying "fuck this I don't need this shit" without fucking dying or killing my dependents over it.

So you can kindly take that "I'm graciously offering you this job opportunity because I know you need the help and I care about your livelihood" mantra you think my employer is generously bestowing on me and shove it. It's nothing to be grateful for. You can't live peacefully on those wages without a support system. It is completely out of scope of what's going on in these people's minds. It's just a long shitty line of unnecessary pain and pressure that fucks over the people at the bottom just so that the rich people at the top can keep making more money. That's the bottom line. And the whole thing only functions because of the united states' neverending demand for food service, combined with the many hundreds of thousands of babies who are born into abject poverty, who eventually grow up into dysfunctional adults by carrying the immense legacy of shit their ancestors left behind by being grateful at times when they were actually being exploited.