StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on May 4, 2023 16:28:12 GMT -5
40oz If you're interpreting what I said as lumping actual trans people in with those that have malicious intent you certainly missed my point. I was doing entirely the opposite and pointing out that there is a cultural movement that is quite literally doing that very thing and branding everyone who objects as intolerant. A quite massive push that I find it hard to believe a person would not be able to notice. If there were a cultural movement, as there have been in the past to shield people just because they have a certain background, race, gender etc in a similar fashion it would be just to criticize it. The problem is that distinction is not often articulated or understood well. When people use woke as a pejorative this is what they speak of. I think you may be interpreting people as being critical of more than what they actually are. I may be wrong so anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong since I'm new here and could be missing context but to me I'm seeing what amounts to talking past each other. The only person I've seen with open and direct animosity towards trans people in the short time I've been here saw his own way out the door. I signed up here because I prefer an environment where people don't have to follow some cultural orthodoxy and I think the pursuit of civilly coexisting while simultaneously being able to disagree with each other is a noble goal. Maybe I'm just being niave.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 4, 2023 16:51:55 GMT -5
You made ten posts in the last 24 hours. I never do. Now I'm too busy. I'm actually driving on a road trip. Hence my edit that said I would read it later.
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dn
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Post by dn on May 4, 2023 20:42:58 GMT -5
I'm referring to trans people in the doom community who would be reading discussion topics on a doom forum. There are many, as well as those who are considering transitioning and have not yet. I never heard of anyone in the Doom community who does that particular thing. Thence we saw retards in programmer socks in their discord, tantrumming over the Twitter and beating their palms against their crotches to anime: lolicon, pedophile shota. "These are women," my leader espouses, "with equivalent surgeries to a vagina or penises feminine." Gagging aloud as my nostrils revolt at the smell of woe! People cavorting in filth of their bowels, they party in effluent; drink piss hormones, they flatter whilst grooming the shit and the corn out of each other's clothes. "I recognize you," for reply, I elicit, "For Zdoom you modded, and of children requested their nudes illicit..." Quoth Marisa, the Magician: "TRANSPHOBE!!! THAT!!! NEVER!!! HAPPENS!!!"
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shibainumaster
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Post by shibainumaster on May 5, 2023 2:27:20 GMT -5
There are many, as well as those who are considering transitioning and have not yet I guess this presence of mental illness in the community is one of the reasons the Marisa situation happened in the first place.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 6:54:30 GMT -5
ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer It's a call to violence that you want this person killed, whether its by your hands or the states. You're not very clear about whether your issue with the person is because they are a sexual abuser, trans, or both. The article you referenced in the OP draws a lot of attention to the person's gender, which tells me that is part of the issue for you. There are a lot of trans people who are not, and never will be sexual abusers in the Doom community. When you call this person a subhuman monstrosity, it can be fairly assumed that when trans people read your post, that you're telling them they are half-way there just because they transitioned. You're kinda answering your own questions here. We could go on and on for infinity about whether people know or don't know about what is important. I can specify a couple likely reasons why this is probably being buried. 1. The event happened in 2018, which is 5 years ago. It's likely buried because its not news. 2. The article was published a year ago, reporting that those involved have now been sentenced, which you noted. Yes people do burn down cities in the pursuit of justice, but in this case justice was served (relatively). There isn't anything going on in the US that I am aware of. The last major event in the United States that comes to mind is the George Floyd riots. The difference between this, and the george floyd riots was that, (at the time,) Derek Chauvin and accompanying officers were merely suspended and pending a review for killing a man by obstructing his airways with an illegal knee-pinning chokehold, and there was clear, unedited secondhand footage by bystanders of Floyd not resisting arrest, and it was confirmed that it was for a minor non-violent crime. It was the latest of many similar racially consistent deaths by police officer in which the officers often get their cases dismissed via qualified immunity, or suspended with paid leave and then are back on the streets enforcing the law a few months or even weeks later. This is not justice and that's what people were protesting. It's important to note that the responsibilities of a police officer should be held in much higher esteem than other people, since the job is perceived to be protecting the community and keeping it safe. They are armed with guns, authorized to use force, and have protections by both police unions and the law that forgives them for actions that would usually be punishable for regular citizens. There are plenty non-police citizens that do much worse things, but they are almost always caught and tried and sentenced, (especially in the United States, which has the highest incarceration rate in the world for more than two decades) I get that this person is trash, but they're in jail, quarantined from the rest of society. You don't need to warn people about this particular person. Is your message that trans people who are not in jail are part of this? These are the questions I imagine trans people would be asking. This what I'm asking you to be self-aware of. Why is it not news worthy? Because I think we didn't hear about it is because of the trans identity of the offenders. Let me ask you a question: you think that's acceptable? You think society should shield people who commit henious crimes, just because they're a social minority? I noted examples of two non-trans child rapists who were beaten to death with a cane. Both of them were "cis" guys, but I'm happy they died brutally. So where does that factor into your logic behind my post? Its simple, child molester must die. Painfully
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 7:01:01 GMT -5
I don't understand. Leftists want trans people to be omnipresent and the center of western civilization, yet they're immune to criticism? FUCK THAT! We're all supposed to be equal right?
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 7:10:32 GMT -5
40oz Yes, I think there should be violence committed by the state to execute child molesters. The state has a monopoly on legitimate use of violence. Obviously it wouldn't be a vat of boiling feces. Nevertheless, NJ will never execute him because they abolished the death penalty. Like I said, they'll be likely murdered by lifers. I think that's how law enforcement side steps the abolished law, by de facto deputizing these lifers to do their dirty work. It becomes vigilante justice. However if the state kept the death penalty, it would actually keep thing more civilized. I think 5 mins of 2000 volts to their brain, while strapped to a chair, would be sufficient.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 7:27:06 GMT -5
If some people think my way of thinking is old-fashioned, than I am the motherfucking past catching up with you.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on May 5, 2023 7:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by redneckerz on May 5, 2023 7:57:57 GMT -5
The only true answer is - depends if he passes I wouldn't call Hunter Schafer a "he" even if she killed my only child. Thanks, now we know for sure that you're a fucking clown! No, they are just trying to rile you up - And it works. I used to be on a spun-off non-Doom forum who did the same thing over and over - And they spun off because they weren't allowed to do these kind of postings anymore (or basically just e-bully people really). I checked the place out a month or so ago after years of absence. And yup - Still the same edgelord behavior.
Its profoundly boring as soon as you realize 'that's the trick. There is nothing more to it.
Dude calm down, he might've been shitposting again. The fact that you still have any shred of doubt floating around in your sentence is interesting to say the least. No one else is talking about Doomers on this topic. But I suppose someone could bring up the Marissa/ZGRoom forums shitshow. Yes, speaking of dead and closed subjects. Oh wait lets not.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 7:58:53 GMT -5
Fucking retarded state doesn't understand that female is a biological designation, X X chromosomes. It's not the same as the arbitrary word games they play with "gender".
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on May 5, 2023 8:05:20 GMT -5
Thanks, now we know for sure that you're a fucking clown! No, they are just trying to rile you up - And it works. I used to be on a spun-off non-Doom forum who did the same thing over and over - And they spun off because they weren't allowed to do these kind of postings anymore (or basically just e-bully people really). I checked the place out a month or so ago after years of absence. And yup - Still the same edgelord behavior.
Its profoundly boring as soon as you realize 'that's the trick. There is nothing more to it. He's still a clown for thinking vanilla Doom doesn't suck.
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40oz
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Post by 40oz on May 5, 2023 8:06:00 GMT -5
StodgyAyatollah Sorry for misunderstanding you. in the context of this thread i thought i was getting dogpiled. Though I'm not entirely sure i understand your point now, either. I hear you saying that there has been a palpable cultural shift to protect trans people like theyre sacred, and youre calling attention to this shift towards absolving a group from criticism. The shift is the problem, and not necessarily the existence of trans people themselves. i hear you on that. I personally find this push fairly inconsequential against massive and unsubstantiated waves of resistance to changing gender norms. (see Gokuma's tidal wave of fox news links posted on the previous page) In my opinion i think its a welcome push towards true equality. I also think the reason it is so palpable and rings alarm bells for so many people is because it is a challenge to our status quo, in which cis men (still) pretty much dominate every aspect of the world. The resistance really resonates with people that feel things was better in the before times. The emotional appeal worked on me in my early twenties. In reality, transitioning kids and adults have very little social currency and huge targets for bullying, prejudice, mistreatment and sometimes violence. I dont belief they are nearly the force to be reckoned with as the news purports them to be.
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Post by redneckerz on May 5, 2023 8:21:39 GMT -5
No, they are just trying to rile you up - And it works. I used to be on a spun-off non-Doom forum who did the same thing over and over - And they spun off because they weren't allowed to do these kind of postings anymore (or basically just e-bully people really). I checked the place out a month or so ago after years of absence. And yup - Still the same edgelord behavior.
Its profoundly boring as soon as you realize 'that's the trick. There is nothing more to it. He's still a clown for thinking vanilla Doom doesn't suck. But it doesn't?
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 8:49:37 GMT -5
StodgyAyatollah Sorry for misunderstanding you. in the context of this thread i thought i was getting dogpiled. Though I'm not entirely sure i understand your point now, either. I hear you saying that there has been a palpable cultural shift to protect trans people like theyre sacred, and youre calling attention to this shift towards absolving a group from criticism. The shift is the problem, and not necessarily the existence of trans people themselves.i hear you on that. I personally find this push fairly inconsequential against massive and unsubstantiated waves of resistance to changing gender norms. (see Gokuma's tidal wave of fox news links posted on the previous page) In my opinion i think its a welcome push towards true equality. I also think the reason it is so palpable and rings alarm bells for so many people is because it is a challenge to our status quo, in which cis men (still) pretty much dominate every aspect of the world. The resistance really resonates with people that feel things was better in the before times. The emotional appeal worked on me in my early twenties. In reality, transitioning kids and adults have very little social currency and huge targets for bullying, prejudice, mistreatment and sometimes violence. I dont belief they are nearly the force to be reckoned with as the news purports them to be. Trans-people have existed for thousands of years. But now all of the sudden, people are noticing a very concerted effort to make them at the center of our discourse, facilitated by governments, and corporations. So nobody was calling for the eradication of trans people before this, and nobody is calling for it now. People are simply disturbed by their lifestyle (sorry but that is a statement of fact. People are disturbed by them) . Frankly, I couldn't give a fuck what people do in their lives as long as it doesn't affect me, but if now people are going to use this concerted effort by powerful institutions to silence others, I do have a problem with that. If you want to be treated fairly, you are subject to the same consequences.
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BIG DICK NIGGA
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on May 5, 2023 8:51:28 GMT -5
redneckerz I was stating my opinion. I know people like to demonise me for no reason other than that I'm genuinely having fun, but I have opinions too and I state them every once in a while. How's your wife anyway? I watched that video you posted on Blacked. She's a trooper, dude. And you're great at recording. Have you thought of becoming a photographer or something? Also - what happened lately that made all Russian posters clinically retarded?
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40oz
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Post by 40oz on May 5, 2023 8:55:17 GMT -5
Why is it not news worthy? I already answered that. I can specify a couple likely reasons why this is probably being buried. 1. The event happened in 2018, which is 5 years ago. It's likely buried because its not news. 2. The article was published a year ago, reporting that those involved have now been sentenced, which you noted. You think society should shield people who commit henious crimes, just because they're a social minority? Absolutely not. There's nothing wrong with the nj.com article you linked to that reported on this same crime. My posts have been commenting on how you should be aware that misgendering people (or in this case, linking to a website that openly misgenders people in most of their articles, not just this one) when there are many trans people in the Doom community. The subject of the article being a predator does not make those actions ok, and at the very least, you should qualify your comments on the article that the website does speak openly against trans people so people can decide for themselves if they need to be reading that. It's not very dissimilar from the other two pedophiles you linked to if the articles were saying " look at this white man doing what white men do. He's probably going to get away with it just because he's white. This is why white men cannot be allowed near children." Obviously, you and I would find news reports of that nature extremely disingenuous and hostile and would not be worth paying any attention to. I'm asking you to be aware of the kinds of people who read topics on doom forums, because we both know by now that there are many trans people who are in the doom community who justifiably feel that it is unsafe to participate here.
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skyr
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Post by skyr on May 5, 2023 9:00:43 GMT -5
what happened lately that made all Russian posters clinically retarded?
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40oz
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Post by 40oz on May 5, 2023 9:02:28 GMT -5
Trans-people have existed for thousands of years. But now all of the sudden, people are noticing a very concerted effort to make them at the center of our discourse, facilitated by governments, and corporations. I'm not doing that. I'm not the government or a corporation. I'm stating a simple indisputable fact that there are trans people in the doom community, and the article serves a main course of hating pedophiles with a side order of transphobic aggression, and I need you (edit: and others who post on this forum) to be aware that when you are posting that article, you're not posting just the main course. You are posting the whole meal.
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on May 5, 2023 9:13:52 GMT -5
He's still a clown for thinking vanilla Doom doesn't suck. But it doesn't? It does.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on May 5, 2023 9:16:28 GMT -5
40oz It's the lack of distinction between people who are actually suffering dysphoria and those who are participating in kink, both culturally and in law that is the problem. People who are suffering from dysphoria generally just want to be left alone to try and live their life as best they can, like most people. It's the kink that encroaches on others and is frankly hitting a critical mass with how common it is. I believe this is a major factor causing a lot of the animosity, hence why I said actual trans people are being hurt the most. In simplified terms the Q+ should be cut off from the LGBT "community" because the Q+ solely encompasses kink and ideology. It's where children's drag shows and such are coming from and stepping away from simply equal rights. There certainly is an element of the "things were better back then" mindset but to a lot of people it will be intuitive even if they don't fully understand it. People are evolved to recognize patterns, problems and threats after all. Cis men which, definitionally is just a longer way of saying men are also the slaves and work horses of society. Their role has never been a singular one of privilege, it has been one of responsibility and sacrifice. That is a product of evolution and will not be changing. If others want to step into that space they better be prepared to accept that it's not sunshine and rainbows. Gender norms are a part of our evolutionary process. There will always be outliers but that reality won't be changing outside of the evolutionary framework. Then we get into the issue of transitioning children. That should never be acceptable, chemically or surgically. Those that have facilitated or performed those surgeries on children, including parents deserve the same fate as the predator in the op. There is no ground for concession on this. Children need to be allowed to develop naturally before they will ever be in a state to make honest judgments about their condition and no one else will be able to do that for them. The cold hard truth is that gender reassignment surgery simply destroys functional body parts to craft non-functioning ones. Purely cosmetic and the ersatz organ that is formed only resembles a real one in most basic terms. Adults should be free to do it, although I can't think of any other dysphoria we would treat the same way but they are adults. It's not like they're suffering from xenomelia and the removal of their limbs could fully disable them making them dependent on others. Ultimately there's an obvious reason you got push back here though. Kontra Kommando made a tread to admonish a child abuser and you came in like "yeah, but trans people" which was frankly quite tone deaf.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 9:18:44 GMT -5
Trans-people have existed for thousands of years. But now all of the sudden, people are noticing a very concerted effort to make them at the center of our discourse, facilitated by governments, and corporations. I'm not doing that. I'm not the government or a corporation. I'm stating a simple indisputable fact that there are trans people in the doom community, and the article serves a main course of hating pedophiles with a side order of transphobic aggression, and I need you (edit: and others who post on this forum) to be aware that when you are posting that article, you're not posting just the main course. You are posting the whole meal. Well, I know you're not trying to do that. I'll respect your response, because I know you're trying to be fair. Even though I disagree.
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shibainumaster
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Post by shibainumaster on May 5, 2023 9:26:50 GMT -5
Yes, speaking of dead and closed subjects. Oh wait lets not. This all happened a month ago, is this really a closed subject?
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40oz
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Post by 40oz on May 5, 2023 9:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 5, 2023 9:32:23 GMT -5
40oz The soft-on-crime DAs that give these child rapists a slap on the wrist, just because they're part of a victim class, is part of the frustration with the status quo: www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-15/sexual-assault-of-10-year-old-sparks-latest-criticism-of-l-a-district-attorneys-policiesAgain, why has this not been promoted as much, as say, that Marine that recently choked out that homeless guy with 40 priors? IMHO a person raping a child, and getting a slap on the wrist is a reason for people to fucking riot! Americans are acting cowardly, in France they riot for raising the retirement age to 64. But also, maybe it is not that they are cowardly... It is because they bury these stories, and barely anyone knows about it. People are overworked, and when they come home an watch the news, they see a half hour of selected stories to promote a narrative. If the government and corporations keep this up, and even go as far to cancel all opposition, there are going to be 100,000,000 Johnathan Watsons one day.
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