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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 26, 2022 12:42:45 GMT -5
It's Serbian. My native language btw.
Cyrillic was invented by Bulgarians, so basically Serbs. Fuck Russians. Cyrillic ≠ Russian.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2022 13:33:55 GMT -5
Fuck Russians. Cyrillic ≠ Russian. Point me out where did I said that cyrillic = russian, I don't recall saying this at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2022 13:55:56 GMT -5
average bulgarians fan vs average russian enjoyer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2022 14:58:31 GMT -5
Glory to Arztrozka.
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Jan 26, 2022 16:52:46 GMT -5
Its neat how many Slavs are here. I learned Russian Cyrillic a couple of years ago and i am slowly getting faster at reading it. (funny when i put it that way)
i can also read Ukrainian cyrillic too, i believe. not so much on Serbian though. is the J pronounced like it is in German?
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 27, 2022 4:30:31 GMT -5
Deathclaw886 yes, like Y in yoghurt. Also have fun figuring out these: Џ Љ Њ Ћ Ђ. Our Cyrillic is based, the Russian one is cringe. Imagine having ten fucking vowels and two letters that aren't even pronounced.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Jan 27, 2022 5:27:33 GMT -5
i only know 1 band from serbia
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 27, 2022 15:04:26 GMT -5
That's dialect Serbian that was also "obfuscated" a bit. I can't 100% tell what's going on there.
"Bre" is untranslatable.
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Jan 27, 2022 15:49:00 GMT -5
Deathclaw886 yes, like Y in yoghurt. Also have fun figuring out these: Џ Љ Њ Ћ Ђ. Our Cyrillic is based, the Russian one is cringe. Imagine having ten fucking vowels and two letters that aren't even pronounced. uh, is the second one supposed to be an l and a soft sign combined? haha. i have no idea. when it comes to the soft and hard signs i get confused.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 27, 2022 16:34:50 GMT -5
Tl dr yes
Until the 19th century standard Serbian was a lot more like Russian than like current Serbian. The aristocracy even spoke a special hybrid between Serbian and Russian. There were many old Slavic letters that weren't affecting the pronunciation of contemporary Serbian anymore, but they stayed in the writing due to tradition. Example: soft sign. It only affected L and N (making them sound like the L in the way Donald trump says "millions" and Spanish ñ respectively).
Then in 1818 a guy named Vuk Karadžić/Вук Караџић /vook karageech/ came, threw out the old orthography and the aristocratic language, and made a brand new phonetic orthography based on the people's speech. He removed irrelevant letters such as the soft sign. He kept it only for Љ Њ because it only made a difference there. He also designed some new letters for sounds specific to Serbian, such as Ђ, Ћ, Џ, and also got rid of the retarded system of soft vowels and took the Latin letter Ј instead. His orthography was adopted in 1864 or so.
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Post by dr_st on Jan 28, 2022 0:15:46 GMT -5
Contemporary Russian orthography has also changed from what it has been. The hard Ъ and soft Ь signs are still used (really only the soft one is useful), but quite a few archaic signs have been retired.
10 vowels, though, yes. This is one of the things that gives Russian nuances in pronunciation that foreign speakers find difficult to distinguish/pronounce correctly.
Not to mention how О/А and Е/И are pronounced the same in unstressed syllables...
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Post by ketmar on Jan 28, 2022 1:09:44 GMT -5
now this is The Official Linguistic Thread!
tbh, it is much more interesting this way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 2:21:04 GMT -5
Unironically, согласен.
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Post by dn on Jan 28, 2022 5:50:56 GMT -5
Then in 1818 a guy named Vuk Karadžić/Вук Караџић /vook karadgeech/ came, threw out the old orthography and the aristocratic language, and made a brand new phonetic orthography based on the people's speech. This is interesting, thank you. I was unaware. Are there any debates about this? Like, does anyone bemoan this as a cultural amputation / think the olde language was better?
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Jan 28, 2022 7:10:35 GMT -5
now this is The Official Linguistic Thread! tbh, it is much more interesting this way. i think its boring
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Post by dn on Jan 28, 2022 7:22:34 GMT -5
now this is The Official Linguistic Thread! tbh, it is much more interesting this way. i think its boring I think you should pay attention, because it might help you communicate more like a human being and less like a shit discord bot.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Jan 28, 2022 7:28:04 GMT -5
what does that mean
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Jan 28, 2022 7:28:40 GMT -5
how am i a bot what the fuck ?
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 28, 2022 8:24:42 GMT -5
dn at the time therr were. That's why the orthography was accepted 45 years after it was first published. For instance the church didn't like the fact that he took a letter from Latin. Also he had literally decades-spanning beefs with some other guys from the time, like they kept publishing articles aimed at each other for 20 years or something. Also well, there's always resistance towards language simplification, which is what the reform was. Like they did in France a few decades ago. Or the way British people somewhat "look down" on American English. However nowadays he's considered the father of the Serbian language essentially. For example if you have really really good grades in primary/high school, they give you what's literally called a "Vuk's diploma". The only people who oppose his reform in 2022 are literally schizo-tier tradcucks. Lastly I just want to emphasise that a monolingual Serbian speaker nowadays would be barely able to read works written before the reform. That's how distant the educated language was from the common man's speech. This isn't the case in English, where you can read original Shakespeare with pretty much no adaptation. However, Vuk's compilation of folk songs that he wrote with his brand new orthography in 1818 is still perfectly readable. So uh yeah there. Cool guy huh?
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 28, 2022 8:46:37 GMT -5
how am i a bot what the fuck ? My mans can't figure out a comparison lol
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Post by dn on Jan 28, 2022 9:02:10 GMT -5
So uh yeah there. Cool guy huh? Reading up on him, he's impressive. I had no idea what a shit-show the language was in prior times - rather than Shakespeare, the English language comparison might be catholic latin before the reformation shoved that deliberately obtuse aristocratic retardation right up the pope's shitpipe. Guy sounds like a combination of Samuel Johnson, Cranmer, Zamenhof, and fucking Tolkien, of all people.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Jan 28, 2022 9:29:39 GMT -5
how am i a bot what the fuck ? My mans can't figure out a comparison lol yes he was really stupid when he said that because it makes no sense to think that i am a bot that is really stupid and i have never seen a bot create doom levels so that just stupid and makes no sense too
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 28, 2022 10:18:43 GMT -5
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Jan 28, 2022 10:20:26 GMT -5
i am not 9 you stupid ret * rd -_-
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 10:22:06 GMT -5
Either way a minor, and to be fair our humble worldwide community is not suitable for underdeveloped brains. Not meaning this site, I mean in whole.
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