What do we do about pedophiles?

At the very least we should keep them under constant surveillance.  Whether it's their choice or not...they are sexually attracted to children.  If these people feel safe enough to come out and admit this...yeah, they need to be hospitalized even if they haven't committed any actual crime because they are undeniably fucked in the head.  These are the kind of genetic traits that humanity should be trying to prevent from being passed down to the next generation.  Yes, I would be all for the sterilization of people who have an admitted sexual attraction to children.

It is sad that compassion is leading some to pity pedophiles because "they can't help it".

I've got no issue with you dude...but damn...I cannot comprehend how you can bring yourself to give anything but contempt to pedophiles.

There is no such thing as a fucking pedo gene.


edit: also you are fucking stupid.

There is always a choice involved. People must be held accountable for their actions. Hiding behind a diagnosis or "my genes made me do it" bullshit, which seems common these days, will not save them if what they do is despicable enough. One shouldn't pity such filth, for they have no pity for you.

Everything can be traced back to genes.  It is what makes us who we are.  

Chemical imbalances in the brain can be passed down to offspring.  Ever wonder why other chemical imbalances like depression can be passed down to children?  What makes you think that other chemical imbalances can't be passed down?

Please don't call me stupid because you disagree with me.  That's not necessary.

I guess we can just use your alternative. Just nurture the undesirable traits that get passed down to the next generation so they can grow into a "community" of people demanding "fair representation".

It's not like I'm calling for mass executions or some shit. Just, "Oh, you can't help but get sexually excited by children? You probably shouldn't be having any then."

But no, your way is better. Keep up the good work.

Quoted for truth.

I'm curious, what would you say about cartoons, comics, and stuff like that?

1) Sexuality is not hard coded from birth. Know this and accept it. Sexuality is essentially aesthetics; what is pleasing to the senses and emotions, and aesthetics are both fluid and informed by life experiences.

2) Conflating instances of pedophilia in the same family with predisposition and genetic inheritance is a mistake. Behavioral fucking science: the abused becomes the abuser.

3) Morality is not hard coded from birth. Know this and accept it. Personal morality is essentially aesthetics; avoiding what is unpleasing to the senses and emotions, and morality is both fluid and informed by life experiences.

4) The framework for sexuality and morality are laid principally very early on in life. Abuse / stress during this period can lead to fucked up shit like pedophilia.

5) The framework for sexuality and morality can be changed later in life (e.g; Pavlov’s electro-shock therapy, or trolling someone so fucking hard that they psychologically dislocate from the trolled persona and go furry / troon the fuck out).

6) Pedophilia is born from a fucked sense of aesthetics, pleasure in exercising power over the helpless and psychological regression back to the original cause of the abuse (where applicable).

7) Impotent men who cannot achieve sexual release will often resort to violence. Often fucking catastrophic levels of violence (the link between serial killers / childhood abuse is profound). Deballing / chemically castrating pedophiles is therefore likely to make the fucking problem WORSE because they will literally FUCK YOUR CHILDREN TO DEATH WITH RAKES.

8) Your justice system is fucking broken, conflating justice with revenge and being corrupt as fuck.

9) Even if your justice system wasn’t fucked and could be trusted with that sort of power, you are only ever four years away from a different set of motherfuckers who might NOT be able to be trusted with that sort of power.

10) Power-creep: what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Today you are castrating pedophiles, tomorrow it will be rapists, ten years time it will be speds like your good self.

11) Power once seceded CANNOT be reclaimed.

12) Surgery does not and never will repair pathology.

I think this is super interesting personally



Giving some entity, government or otherwise, the ability to euthanize people because they posses undesirable mental traits is a slippery slope I personally wouldn't want to go down. It's just an excuse to strip more rights away from people. I agree we should be trying to find a solution or "cure" for pedophilic thoughts, if such a thing is even possible, but advocating for the government(?) to have the right to castrate/euthanize someone with undesirable traits is an extremely bad idea.

Also Memfis is correct: Having a (disgusting) desire and acting on that desire are two wildly different things. I don't think people able to control their perverse urges should be punished in any way. That is antithetical to the very concept of freedom.

I'm not getting the impression that anyone here is advocating that it should be ok to sacrifice a few children to the pedophiles so they can continue being what they are. I think we can all agree that would be a pretty sick and dangerous solution.

What they are saying is that we shouldn't be so terrified of this problem that we can only react to it with violence and disgust. You know just as well as I that the definition of the word "racist" is shifting and continuing to shift to include a variety of ambiguous language that implies racism or any sort of micro aggression that addresses differences in culture and religion and ethnicity.

This would be very dangerous world to live in if racism was punishable with the threat of death.

So lets take the word pedophilia. At the moment, it only harms young children. But suppose we talk about this enough to expand this category to include teenagers, or immature adults, or inebriated adults, or people who make jokes related to pedophilia, or adults who have been sheltered from the idea of sexuality to the point that they'd be just as traumatized as a young child would no matter what age they are. Where do we draw the line when anyone can have an opinion on what a pedophile is?

We're already stepped into extremely treacherous territory by enabling a legal precedent that it's ok to lock people up in cages just for owning masturbating material related to it, even before they've actually done anything to harm anyone. This topic has been made to be so horrifying that no one wants to go near it, so we don't know with 100% certainty if pedophilia is a learned behavior versus something that occurs naturally or through some other external inoccuous factor that no one could have known to control.



I like this question, because it tests my disgust. That doesn't happen very often. I guess I'd look at it this way: Perhaps you know someone who smokes cigarettes. Suppose, hypothetically, that their cravings for nicotine were so sensitive that to be deprived of it, would cause them to go on murderous rampages, bludgeoning anyone who gets in their path. At this time, the only way we know to pacify these people is to give them cancer causing cigarettes. I don't like cigarettes, and I don't like what they do to people, but if this were the case, I'd advocate to allow shops to carry cigarettes for people to buy for these nuanced but terribly dangerous possibilities.

I'm picking between steamed brocolli and brussel sprouts for dessert here, but yeah I'd have to say that cartoon porn depicting children should probably be ok until we know there's a humane way to reverse this problem.

Now for my take on the situation (Didn't ask for it, you say? Well, I asked myself and I am answering out loud. Problem?)

I take the "higher 'moral' conservative" route here, when I am saying "Think about the children".

It has been made quite obvious these days to what happens to pedophiles, and by extend child molesters (pedophiles who act on this); Everyone ostracizes them. Even in prisons, serial killers are disgusted by them, and often make examples to them. I believe they are ostracized for a good reason. Just think about the children. What are they going through when they are going through the act itself.

Varying countries have varying ages of consent; these points being determined by the law force itself. It seems like most lawmakers take into consent even the most minor of violations upon the law of consent, and that is why "barruly eghtteen porrrn" exists. Just having incriminating material like this can land someone in jail, for a reason similar to the old saying which potrays that it is better to stop these heresies in their beginnings rather than deal with their consequences later. The consequences are just too dire to let go and happen, and even if someone swore he wouldn't touch little children in hidden spots, he would still be suspicious and would be learnt a lesson. Its just one of the things that make the modern society look like a dystopian setting. Prohibiting stuff like that, that even thinking out loud about it will "trigger everyone's brainwashing" and start ostracizing the potential pedophile. And, its one of the things we have to deal with that they exist. It is just incomparable in its own category, you cannot really just associate it with any other sexuality, at least out-loud, because it is that bad. I mean, if rapists are straying away from you, you done something way too fucked up.

How to deal with them? Same as always, cannot risk this stuff. When it comes to individual cases of someone framing someone for having child porn, that is within their capabilities and options, but in general, these rules are as loose as they can be without getting worse, which, in our perspective, looks pretty darn tight and un-merciful.

The philosophy behind this is simple: Children, infants, toddlers, they are all people like you and me. They might not read well, and they might not follow the daily political news or drink coffee, but they are people. We were all kids once. We might had grown up in a literal prison or coddled with toys, but in essence, no one under 18 is a object or a animal or anything other than a human being. Reason we treat children like children is exactly that; lack of experience, and possible lack of physical and mental prowess. That is why parents exist, and that is why some people are hardcoded to be caring parents who would do anything for their children, even if they become the most annoying little shits ever, children are human beings. Also, children are supposed to be innocent. A young boy might sneak a peek at the naked lady in the magazine, but still, that young boy is pretty much innocent. Does he know how life is? Probably is, but not as wrong and horrifiyng as children who grew up with child molesters. Just like how they say that the rapist would always be someone whom you least expect, the same often goes for molesters. If a child would grow up thinking it isn't a human being but a torture/sex object, a toy someone uses to play with... well... life pretty much wasted for nothing. Years of life, of adolescency, spent into training and becoming a animal of some sort, a slave, thinking it isn't worth of existing outside someone's fantasy. It is bad.

Of course, this is the worst case scenario I am speaking off. You may go full depresso and say "HOO ALL HUMANS ARE ANIMALS ANYWAYS SNORT SNORT" or "CHILDREN SHULD KONW ABOUT LIEF BEFORE ITS TOO LATE BOO HOO" , and I ask, "Who are you to determine how parents should parent?" More often than not, a lot of normal parents are against seeing their child being abused and enslaved by someone who thinks that stuff is normal. It might had been in some red-pill guy's fantasy, but no, we as people have grown and learned that we live and exist within our lineage, within our bloodline, within our dynasty. We want our offsprings to proudly present the values we so want to preserve.

Of course, I am unofficialy speaking in the name of conservative parents who think well of their family but also have a sense of the world and their surroundings, and don't "change the rules how they think it should work" (overly religious and restricting parents go here). There are obviously other sorts of families, not every family is as grand as wide nor does it seep deep into history, so what I am saying might not make sense for some more "liberally-inclined" parents who want their child to be what they want, but trust me, no bloody parent with even a shred of decency would wish nor imagine their or any other child being abused.

Yes yes, I know, "KORBE ITS 2018 DEFINITIONS CHENG, WE USED TO THINK GAYS SHOULD BE BURNT OBV YOU ARE STUCK IN 1800s WEIK UP KORBE", but, I am assured, that, while homosexuality and all things -sexuality might had been persecuted for a while, they used to exist just fine in many cultures in the world. It wasn't until Our Lord himself brought up his people, that someone thought "masturbation and gay sex? No children! No children = no nation, OH NOOO", and while there might had been cases similar to that as well, all sorts of sexualities just resonated as ages came and passed. But it has always been pedophiles who were scrutinized and ostracized and punished. Only cultures which didn't care about pedophiles, well, they had their way coming when they allowed incest into their families and inbreeding, and were just horny dogs who had no sense of wrong, just of what was "right", that being said, cultures which endorsed sex with children were fucked way before they came to that point, and just warped themselves out of existence, or are in a process of warping themselves out. Only Hollywood movies can make you think there are civilizations out there which haven't ostracized pedophiles and lived to tell the tale. They would have to be eldritch aliens, to have no concept of "age" or some third shit.

Wrapping this short essay up with this paragraph: Pedophiles exist, yeah, but, the way it seems, they are better off imagining that stuff in their heads and keeping it there. If dystopian fantasies of mind control and mind reading were to ever come true, then these people would surely stop existing all together. They might pop in un-announced, but they might dissappear just as they appearred, much like blisters or moles upon one's skin. It is taboo as fuck, and not because of "common courtesy that came out of western something something egg salad" but because of the pain that everyone has to share, and the damage that just cannot be paid with a pocket of change, ever. Those who would act out their fantasies upon a child, are literally scarring them for life, just as they began to live it. I know depressos would so wanna scream into my ear that "LIFE IS SHIT AND THEY SHOULD KNOW IT", but that isn't like that, and we all know it. Children deserve to have good memories, to create memories which they could use as a anchor in their adult life, such as knowing there are things like the concept of simplicity and pure joy, that this and that happens, and precautions, hopes and dreams. Whenever someone touches a child like that wrong, all the good stuff which can make life even better just... seep out. Not to mention those who were raised thinking that is the right way (being submissive to their own kin and other warped sins like that), its a fundamentally wrong thing that cannot ever be justified, and I believe the law and society is doing a great job on stopping all those vile heresies from happening in the first place, right at the root.

Now you can boo me as much as you want, but remember to whom you are speaking to. I myself had signed a petition that child molesters in my country should be branded for the rest of their lives in the "pedophile registry", just fucking dare touch my little cousin or little brother, or even my future son. If law doesn't catch you, fucker, I will. The end.