hardcore_gamer threads

Oh god I am not the only one who noticed, thank god!

Yup, hardcore_gamer asks good questions, he might sound a bit brash, but because of that, every time I see his name next to a thread on Doomworld, I always manage to predict what happens. First of all, the second post gets upvoted to oblivion. Of course, the post would have the tone of "What the actual fuck do you think you are asking us eh?" and "Gash, you fucking sound stupid, fuck off, its obvious as fuck, can you not see!", but the (con)text would usually be related to the thread somehow. I haven't yet seen a nice discussion except for the latest thread. I just saw that thread when it had like 7-8 replies so I dunno if it got worse. Either way, I reckon hardcore_gamer should get here and chillax.

Other than that, I noticed that within the Doom community, probably only Doomworld, it is often implied that everyone knows how to do basic stuff and has knowledge of the terminology used. I ran into a issue once asking about a script or something, and while I was given a correct answer, I couldn't really utilize it since I cannot find a tutorial where it properly says how to change this variable into this or that, and it kinda agitated me how, while these comments helped, they probably helped those who knew how to utilize those tips, and since I am a noobie I cannot do anything but say "thanks" and move on and try to dig my way out of dirt. I guess hardcore_gamer is kinda in the same situation, asking somewhat "obvious" questions (that still have no definite answers and have usage of opinions), getting "101 1earn ur sh1t b4 a5k1n6", and just... bad rep for a obviously good discussion topic.

However I might be missing crap since I am a noobface and I often speak "out of heart" when it comes to things that aren't purely technical (like this), so, take my opinion with a grain of salt. Either way, yeah, hardcore_gamer is a good dude, ppl should stop bullying him. (is he reading this right now tho?)

Sir, 2+ years, sir!

I presume its the whole "elitist" vibe of really active members and veteran doomers who pop up once in 5 years that made this whole atmosphere. I haven't tried out ZDoom forums yet, but I guess Doomworld has it bad because, while new members pop up often, its hard to make good friends who could walk you through, but terribly easy to get on everyone's bad side. That, and the whole list of thing a newbie has to do/see/play to be well met with the standards is kinda... ridiculous? Yeah, newbies pop up, thanks to Brutal Doom or pure nostalgia, but from there on its quite hard to get a footing, especially if a newbie popped up merely interested and not wholly invested into Doom. I know I had a hard time getting my voice heard. I kinda did, but after 2 warning points I just gave up from posting on Doomworld, unless its a good topic. Only real friend I have on Doomworld is ShotgunDemolition. Anyways, me and him are kinda on the same when it comes to generating content, we are both basically the same when it comes to dooming altogether. However, he hasn't really been vocal about things like I was, so he felt more comfortable about releasing his .wad while I feel uncomfortable just thinking of posting my .wad onto Doomworld, due to the small amounts of bad rep I had seized up. I have a feeling that if I dared to release a standalone map, it would be shunned down extremely quickly, despite knowing that Doomworld is welcoming when it comes to new content and new mappers.

Not to talk about modding though. That is even more ridiculous. If I were to compare it to something, I would compare it to studying magic. There are tons of these variables that have SOME sort of meaning, but no one can really talk about them somehow, and all the potential-modder can do is to fiddle diddle and probably blow himself up while trying to script a gun without using DEHACKED. For instance, this link here leading to GunLabs's first tutorial on custom weapons for ZDoom. Of course, if you have experience with coding, this probably sounds like a piece of cake. But imagine being a noobface. There are suddenly frames to worry about, some silly "tic" thingies, and all in all is quite confusing. Not to mention how agitated I felt whenever someone posted a link of a ZDoom forums wiki article dealing with DECORATE.

The problem lies within how... just... everything is there, but unless you somehow knew coding from before, you cannot utilize any of this. Tons of different terminologies being used, references to god-knows-what. The GunLabs tutorial is only a simple LVL 1 fireball spell that is being given, compared to what can be made in ZDoom, but if you wanna go further, you just have to do a lot of studying and experimenting, just like wizards. And hope that the script won't crash your GZDoom and that it would run properly.

I can pretty much say this whole thing kinda burned down my dreams for two three mods I had planned. I know I shouldn't expect to be hand-held through this, but I am not sure if I have to go through it the hard way like its 1993. I wish there were some templates of sort which can help potential modders emulate what they need, and a sandboxy version of ZDoom that let players tic around and experiment with their scripts on the go. I would do this myself, but I am simply not skilled enough to pull off this stuff. All that modder-me of the past asked for was some basic templates to work with.

To me it seems like you don't get the respect (or even plain positive acknowleddgment) from the oldfags for being around for a certain amount of time. Rather it more seems that you should have been around since a certain moment of time. Like if you registered after 2005, there's no way in hell you'll ever get the opportunity to hang with the oldfags. The DW elite appears to be extremely closed and hard to get into. Takes some MAJOR sucking up to get there IMO, and even that's not a guaranteed way of achieving it.

How to make levels harder without just adding more/harder enemies?

Another thread which opens up the door to thoughtful discussion. Thank god Esselfortium and Nine Inch Heels got in there because I don't think anyone would have guessed what their opinions might be and its very important that they remind us any chance they get.

Well, I reckon if you kept getting ridiculed and mocked for posting stuff that has large amounts of potential but is often being misread, you would pick up some salt by the way, yeah? Its just how humans operate, nothing unusual really here. Might be to someone who had seen hg's stuff for the first time though

^ Yeah. His last reply on the first page in particular is just lol:

"So far the best ideas I have heard are turrets, turning of the lights, and limiting health and ammo."

Oh, so uh, I guess doing a good job at designing the map itself and making it both challenging and fun combined with good use of traps and most of all enemy placement is useless. I don't get him.

Designing maps around good gameplay doesn't necessarily come naturally to everyone if they start mapping with visuals and aesthetics first, as I did. I believe hardcore_gamer is one of them. It took me a while to get a handle on it. I think there's a variety of ways to go about it. I'm always interested in reading how people plan it out, especially when they make really good maps. I get really frustrated from how little activity and thoughtful posts come in these types of threads, and how often people will post just to say "This thread sucks" and try to misdirect the negative energy in the thread into positive attention for themselves, when its the useful information I'm clicking the thread for.

That's mostly true, especially if you're playing it rather than just observing it. There's some benefits to looking at cool map designs and detailed maps just to appreciate their goodness or for ideas to make better looking maps.

Not Doom-related, but this annoyed me: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100930-is-this-an-alarmist-thread-title-yes/

Very serious topic, Doom Wiki and Doomworld spammed us with similar messages for a while (vote for net neutrality blablabla), but when hardcore_gamer does it it's no good?

Despite Quasar suggesting that it could be, in fact, a legitimate concern, hardcore_gamer is always wrong so if there's any chance he's right the thread must be closed.

I can't imagine the hilarity in wake of that bill ever passing.

In the defence of everybody on Doomworld, hardcore_gamer's total lack of understanding of the thing he's talking about, alarmism and terrible choice of source, combined with his general lack of credibility, do mean that he sounds ridiculous. I'm certainly dismissive of everything he's saying, as it's totally unworkable.

That’s hit the nail on the head, but there’s a part of me that would like to see one of his conspiracies come true to shut the cunts up who are continually on his case. Just a minor one with no major ramifications of course.