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Post by 40oz on Nov 28, 2017 12:16:26 GMT -5
There's not a lot of rules here, and I prefer to keep it that way. But I just want to throw this out there as a dormant rule that might need to come into effect further down the line if the situation calls for it.
There's a thing on doomworld that some people seem to do. I've done it. I'm not happy about it. I realize how frustrating it is when other people do it, so I've worked on myself not to do it. But if it happens too often here, I'll have to do something about it because it disrupts the civility of the forum and compromises useful discussions. People used to refer to it as flame wars or "flaming" but there's a workaround that most forum members seem to do that flies under the radar of that definition, so I'd like to make it a bit more clear here.
The act of commanding a thread varies in definition, but a warning sign is generally when someone posts many times in one thread. It usually happens when someone makes an opinion that they feel needs to be defended or needs some extra weight or substance, so they return to the thread multiple times to respond to every post in the thread to further their point. It also includes posting in a manner where you are responding to the same person over and over, usually in short sentences, sarcasm, or commenting on their decadence to provoke a reaction.
This kind of posting goes unenforced at doomworld and I wouldn't like it to go out of control here. This thread isn't a warning to anyone here in particular. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever seen it happen here. But I'd like to put this out there since we're pretty close to doomworld and wouldn't want that kind of stuff creeping into this forum unchecked.
If you feel you're at risk of getting in trouble for this rule, here's some info that might help:
Should a thread experience some heat, which generally means that you're engaging in a dialogue with one particular person in a thread, or a group that shares a similar opinion, I expect that you should be able to get a complete thought across in as few posts as possible. I kindly request that you take the time to write your posts eloquently, and reread them a few times before posting. Try your best to anticipate any questions that might come from your posts. It's not a matter of being right or wrong. If you are populating threads with incomplete thoughts that you're still working out in your head, or intentionally obscuring to be outrageous, I may have to take action. The rules don't apply to every situation, but I will refer people to this thread if I feel it is happening, and if it continues despite that, I'll have to take some sort of action that the participants may not like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 12:27:05 GMT -5
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 28, 2017 14:17:54 GMT -5
^ Why?
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 28, 2017 14:18:08 GMT -5
^^ I never break any rules.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 28, 2017 14:18:28 GMT -5
^^^ I am an obeying individual.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 28, 2017 14:19:13 GMT -5
^^^^ I would never command a thread or something, especially not by spamming posts that could easily be combined into one.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 28, 2017 14:19:35 GMT -5
^^^^^ Seriously, stop deeming me more stupid than I actually am.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 28, 2017 14:19:57 GMT -5
^^^^^^ (I am quite stupid, but nowhere as stupid as you deem me to be.)
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You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by TOS on Nov 28, 2017 14:32:02 GMT -5
I was guilty of this on doomworld a lot...I don't think I am so much here. I'll try to keep it in check though. If I fuck up, let me know.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 15:05:51 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s anywhere near an issue here yet. We are still a relatively small and new group with few posts and minimal activity, and unfunny Slavs who think they’re funny who go way over the top as experienced in this very thread. I say let the tennis continue.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 28, 2017 15:07:42 GMT -5
^ The man's right, leave this forum @vikkazda
.....*commands thread some more*
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 15:45:09 GMT -5
Kids are simple. Tell them not to do something and they will do exactly that thinking they are funny. But Xeep-Eep failed even here as the topic is not really about spam, it's about a different issue. Now go and read it again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 18:54:34 GMT -5
I'm still laughing at "unfunny Slavs who think they're funny"
40, I know what you're talking about and I haven't seen it yet here. When I see someone posting in that fashion in some sort of political or religious debate thread, I just picture them hyped up beyond belief at their computer just waiting to pounce on the next reply. I'd say if they managed to do so in a manner where each post was thought out to some degree or, at the very least, not abusing others, it should be given a pass. When it crosses into "I'm a pathetic little piece of shit who has to fall back on insults because my arguments are PUERILE GARBAGE" territory, that's where (small) punishments should be considered.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 19:36:11 GMT -5
Don’t forget about punishing the rickrollerers and anime thread starters, they’re nasty types ;-)
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TOS
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by TOS on Nov 28, 2017 19:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 20:00:26 GMT -5
I ain’t clicking that Chicabro!
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You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by TOS on Nov 28, 2017 20:06:27 GMT -5
Pfft. And I thought Aussies had balls.
Steve Erwin has rolled over in his grave.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 20:26:57 GMT -5
Nah we’re just two steps ahead of the seppos.
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TOS
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by TOS on Nov 28, 2017 20:47:32 GMT -5
You're a septic tank.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 20:49:08 GMT -5
Haha didn’t think you’d get that one!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 11:29:34 GMT -5
...and unfunny Slavs who think they’re funny who go way over the top as experienced in this very thread... hey, just doing my part for the community! :3
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Post by 40oz on Nov 29, 2017 13:20:34 GMT -5
I just picture them hyped up beyond belief at their computer just waiting to pounce on the next reply. I'd say if they managed to do so in a manner where each post was thought out to some degree or, at the very least, not abusing others, it should be given a pass. When it crosses into "I'm a pathetic little piece of shit who has to fall back on insults because my arguments are PUERILE GARBAGE" territory, that's where (small) punishments should be considered. Yeah, when this happens, these types of people need to be given a break. I also agree that the penalty should be very minor, as I don't want to discourage fruitful conversation if there's still potential. I think the most fair way to go about it is to temporarily lock the thread. Lock it for maybe a day or two so people can collect their thoughts and see if whatever it is they were fired up about still matters after a few days. I think it's the heat of the moment that makes it so incendiary. If people's experience are like mine, they see a post that pushes a message that conflicts or voids a message that was pushed in their earlier posts, so instead of actually working out the issue, it becomes a contest of getting the final word that bullies the person out of participating in the thread. That goal might matter immensely for the people involved, but for those not involved who want to spectate on people's opinions, it's just a bunch of noise we have to scroll through so we can hear the opinions of other people. In general, I think there's a mindful limit people should put on themselves on how many times they should post in a thread in a given span of time. Again, nobody here has been at fault for this, but this seems to be a loop hole that skates in between all the general forum rules pertaining to double posting, spam posting, flaming, hijacking threads, trolling, backseat moderating, etc. I only made this thread preemptively because I don't want to shock everyone by reacting to a hairy situation that might occur in the future. I just want it to be here so I can point to it and be like "REMEMBER WHEN I SAID NOT TO DO THIS? DON'T DO IT."
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Nov 29, 2017 15:05:38 GMT -5
Stupid question, but can you (or anyone else lol) point to an actual example of this commanding thing? Unfortunately I'm so stupid that I need a descriptive example so that I can understand something.
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Post by TOS on Nov 29, 2017 16:41:54 GMT -5
@xeep-Eep
Think about literally every time Dew and I said anything to each other in any thread ever.
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Post by deathevokation on Nov 30, 2017 19:59:24 GMT -5
Honestly, sometimes you do need to exert your presence in certain situations... like when I posted that Baldur's Gate thread on Doomworld and everyone was virtue signaling and oversimplifying their opposition like they always do with red herrings and pretending the sole reason was because of the trans character (it wasn't, the video I even posted which said morons didn't watch went on to show the snarky anti Gamer Gate easter egg and the company insulting their audience and fishing for positive reviews), the thread got post helled before I could respond but in hindsight I should have probably responded to almost every post that was written, not to make them agree with me.. but to stop misrepresenting an argument to refute it.
Other times, the commanding of a thread while relying solely on emotional arguments, moral grandstanding, being elitist and making a point to show contempt for whoever you're arguing with in such a way that discourages even OT debate and in turn makes people not want express an opposing viewpoint at all is the kind of stuff that really irritates the hell out of me, but that just falls under "don't be an asshole", I think... I dunno, this place does a good job at regulating itself, though... and realistically; someone like this would much sooner be outed as an asshole before he gets outed for commanding threads..since commanding threads in such a way is just a symptom of a bigger problem. ;P
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