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Post by morpheuskitami on Aug 15, 2020 20:23:04 GMT -5
If one gets Shadowman's mods from that Russian Doom site, will that have the language option and will that be uncensored? Or am I fucked as an English speaker?
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Post by Jake Crusher on Aug 16, 2020 10:05:48 GMT -5
morpheuskitami, don't think you're fucked. AFAIK, Shadowman's wads as Cheogsh trilogy + The Inquisitor trilogy + Ascension are translated to English. Others... well, since he also likes making LR-wads as well, most of the things you need to know are in "readme.txt"-addendums to his works. Oh, and, uh... from what I am aware of, Shadowman now is working on updating/remastering Cheogsh trilogy, so that current GZDoom builds will be working properly + combining them into 1 pk3 file. So to put it shortly - his works are for everyone. PS. However, I'm not sure if "The Inquisitor" for jDoom is on English...
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Post by optimus on Aug 16, 2020 16:29:11 GMT -5
Hah.. I was casually watching/replying in a doomworld thread, web.archive.org/web/20200816112709/https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116264-whats-the-worst-youtube-channel-for-doom/?page=2Now I click back from a doomworld link to see the discussion and get a message "You do not have permission to view this content.". I a not saying it's some fight or censorship going on again, it could be something else, but so many times I am used to the fact they ban/close threads when there is some shitshow there, it kept me puzzled. There is nothing in the archived version that tells me the story ever. It gets annoying everytime this happens. I don't even know if they ever close that thread because of a fight or another more understanding reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 11:25:24 GMT -5
I think that Shadowman's ban is the lowest point the dw moderation can reach (so far), 40oz ban was also bad enough but at least I can get a rational reason for why it happened. I think that something like this would have happened sooner or later since this it's the direction that dw has taken since few years. Like Memfis said we are way past the point of no return. Cheers to the Russian posters that helped to have a better perspective on certain things. Then this is a minor thing but let's not forget that NotJabba is also a prominent writer for the cacowards, though to be fair even the some DBP got featured despite that even naming this place there is almost like committing crime but I wonder if authors/works will get overlooked because they don't align with the biases of the writers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 19:00:06 GMT -5
DBP got featured despite that even naming this place there is almost like committing crime but I wonder if authors/works will get overlooked because they don't align with the biases of the writers. I think this is just an impossible bias to overcome even aside from the old DW / DB dramas. I've had numerous years go by where wads I felt were fantastic didn't even get a passing mention. Even when trying hard to look past bias, you're going to naturally sway toward what you know.
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Post by Jake Crusher on Sept 6, 2020 18:14:07 GMT -5
but let's not forget that NotJabba is also a prominent writer for the cacowards, though to be fair even the some DBP got featured despite that even naming this place there is almost like committing crime but I wonder if authors/works will get overlooked because they don't align with the biases of the writers With all due respect, that does not & will not justify him in his doings. Remember, gentlemen - it is always difficult to build your reputation, but at the same time - very easy to destroy it. Just one small thing can bring everything you've built down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 11:26:51 GMT -5
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Post by 40oz on Sept 23, 2020 18:15:07 GMT -5
That is pretty nice, actually. Vorpal is a good dude.
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Post by deathevokation on Sept 26, 2020 13:57:02 GMT -5
Vorpal has always been a class act.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 13:52:58 GMT -5
Despite that this thread was started with mostly good intention in the first pages it quickly changed its purpose to mainly just repost the shitshows, drama happenings at DW and meta discussion of the community. Granted that I also took part in that and called out some of the bullshit that happened I don't see the reason why we shouldn't do that when those kind of things happen also here because the closing of the discussion about the hiding of the development subforum is a fuck-up that deserves and must be remembered here and I would hate it for this to get a pass. But don't worry 40oz you can just ignore this post and go on like nothing happened as you mostly did in that thread because in a sense I got my answers and now I see how much your words and wall of texts about the community are really worth. But wait, maybe you are right in fact because when you say the community you actually mean only yourself.
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Post by joe-ilya on Oct 4, 2020 14:15:18 GMT -5
Yeah, that was quite the shitshow, this last exchange in the thread sums it up : Please quit being condescending to people giving you feedback. I didn't ask for it. I'm locking this thread.
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Post by xeepeep on Oct 4, 2020 14:46:05 GMT -5
But don't worry 40oz you can just ignore this post and go on like nothing happened as you mostly did in that thread because in a sense I got my answers and now I see how much your words and wall of texts about the community are really worth. But wait, maybe you are right in fact because when you say the community you actually mean only yourself. This kind of words because of a subforum being members-only? Maybe it's not that serious after all? In the end it's a really trivial thing
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Post by thundercunt on Oct 4, 2020 15:35:46 GMT -5
oh boy
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Post by dmdr on Oct 4, 2020 19:06:28 GMT -5
This shows the problem inherent in locking threads pretty well (ie. shit spreading everywhere)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 21:03:45 GMT -5
I would suggest to avoid criticizing people if you want a productive discussion to take place. There is a difference, for example, when giving feedback on a map between criticizing someone's map and criticizing the author of said map, this approach can be applied to other sort of discussions as well - avoid attacking a person at all cost. If you really care to do it soon it becomes evident that there is always an alternate way to convey a message involving no personal accusations whatsoever.
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Post by joe-ilya on Oct 5, 2020 5:09:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure if you can get through a guy who wears this on his sleeve : "And who knows, maybe I'm wrong. But that's extremely unlikely because I'm always right."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 6:19:04 GMT -5
The things that bother you about people shouldn't be said as they won't get you anything or anywhere. A lesson all could learn (or more realistically re-learn over and over)!
NOTE: Probably not applicable in every and all situations of course but still, assuming that you haven't totally written that person off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 8:31:45 GMT -5
joe-ilya, that phrase suggests a sense of humor to me. It doesn't seem to have been ever intended to be treated seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 11:45:16 GMT -5
Tragic irony is always funny.
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Post by xeepeep on Feb 3, 2021 6:42:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 12:15:26 GMT -5
Was probably fun, until someone redacted politics out of it. A passing remark that deserves to be commented on: I should start that here Redneckers - the author of the quoted text - is replying to topic starter who stated he hates the developer of Gzdoom because he (topic starter) is having problems running Gzdoom perhaps on some mod/wad - I didn't quite get the part what he was trying to run. Also, the text Redneckers was replying to seems to be self-contradicting and hard to make sense of: " respect the developer but i hate the gzdoom developer." So what's the deal, if I agree the topic starter deserves the criticism? What I disagree is the following: I don't consider hate a strong word (although perhaps I should have requested Redneckers to clarify what is meant by "strong" here), or the emotion meant by "hate" a particular strong one, and I don't like the fact that "hate" is now used in political context where it's meaning implies some sort of criminal behavior, which is not what hate originally was about. This emotion - hate - is not at all intense on my emotion palette. Rage and contempt are much further down the intensity spectrum, especially since these latter contain a component of self-righteousness, while the hate - as an emotion, and not a misguided political notion once again - by itself doesn't. When I was adolescent I much preferred to express that I despise someone rather than hate them - because hatred is (in my view) what is felt towards equals, while contempt is felt towards inferiors. Also, I believe that if one political party uses legal instruments (including trying to get the opponent prosecuted for extremism) to suppress the agenda of another, opposing party, then hatred is actually involved - on behalf of the party using legal instruments - even if it is not legally regarded as criminal activity and thus not meeting the definition the word "hate" acquired in political context. In my view, that such a definition arouse is a big mistake, and we should find another word for it, since meanings attached to words in one context tend to penetrate the other, and the repression of emotions is, in my view, undesirable, because it only leads to neurosis. That is, the emotions can't really be suppressed - they are just driven out of consciousness, and thus may manifest unconsciously on their own - outside of one's ability to control, in a twisted way that may or may not be harmful to others. Instead, one should learn how to consciously express in a socially acceptable way any emotion felt, including that of hate, and that means acknowledging one can feel hate and that is ok to do so and that expressing it in some particular way - to fuel an art passion, or to win a competition in a fair way, or to exercise vigorously, - is appropriate, while expressing it by harming others (except as a necessary self-defense, or to aid someone dishonorably attacked, but those situations usually involve emotions other than hate) is not. I presume some people would question how hate can be positively channeled in situations I described, but I assure you I've done that, yes, it's possible, and was often the only way I could motivate myself to do studies in university or something else. That is, I really needed to strongly desire to surpass other people, feeling hatred or contempt towards them, with these motivating me to actually do things so that I don't end up surpassed instead, and I couldn't often get the source of motivation from anything else. And realizing that the my most effective, or often only, motivation is hatred was not easy even before this political definition of hate gained popularity, thanks for my background being raised a Christian (now an atheist for more than a decade) and the overall widespread influence of Christianity on culture.
The appeal of what remains after promise of political holy war was shut down is not much to me, it's just some guy who can't speak English properly and writes what amounts to trolling, and people seriously responding to him trying to make sense of it and as if it could get anywhere. Good finisher from Maes though:
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Post by thundercunt on Feb 3, 2021 12:38:30 GMT -5
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Post by dn on Feb 3, 2021 12:45:48 GMT -5
That is such a wall of text that there are still mexicans trying to climb over it.
Also, who's the degenerate furry retard who doxxed themselves over on the farms today?
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Post by xeepeep on Feb 3, 2021 16:02:20 GMT -5
wat? In all seriousness though, pretty based reply as well. I might even read it when I have the time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2021 21:14:16 GMT -5
xeepeep, I wrote that post before going to sleep, and I had to delay my sleep because of writing it, so it ended up pretty unreadable. Anyway, some months before I've run into a person in real life who believed 'hate' was somehow a strong word, and it is a worrying tendency that such people exist, so when someone mentioned it on the internet, I felt the need to dispute it.
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