can some one tell me why you like alien vendetta please

You know what's worst? There's no aliens on it. Nada. Zero. I mean, it's hella confusing. It's the player the alien that is supposodely getting revenge? It's the demons? Who knows. It seems that the people behind this wad died from mysterious causes a long time ago. We may never know the truth.

no a virus mihght trigger if u quit but if you get passed the quit by alt f4 then you can not be haunted when you exit alien ventedde

you already said this in my other reply to him. why are you doing this ?

i hate map 13 and map 14 from alien vendetta. i think they are really boring. and on top of that the enemy encounters are not only unfair but also boring , and do not have any variation in them , and they just really suck. they are not fun to me. and every map until map 12 , including map 12 , is really fun and good , and they also look good , and map 13 and map 14 look good but they make me angry and bore me at the same time. and i cannot get over it. and it is an extremely big and terrible disappointment for me because the other maps at the begining until map 13 are so extremely good and really awesome , they re so much fun and no matter if you play in brutal doom , project brutality , or vanilla , they re extremely much fun to play , and they are varied and extremely creative. so i dont understand why map 13 and 14 were made , i just dont get it. and if they were not so long i could play them and just say , okay well i will rush through this and then the fun will start again , but it drags on for way too long so that it makes me even angrier. and at the end of it there s a bunch of archviles , like 20 archviles that is just impossible to survive no matter how good you are , so if you force yourself to play through them and youre already really frustrated and tired from this map , you ll be killed any way , with no way to survive this without cheating. i think its one of the worst levels created by any one ever , and the biggest disappointment in my entire life , and it makes me hate alien vendetta so extremely much when i am in a bad mood because they ruin the entire wad. and it makes me sad.

Work continues on Black Label! Actually quite a lot is "ready" but we are kinda stuck in testing/tweaking stages and are all very busy with RL work lately, I really want to get something out this year though (and sooner rather than later).

And yeah my original gangsta AV maps were started probably around 1997, and slightly enhanced in 1999, but that didn't save them from being boring slogs imo. I'm thankful that something like Scythe came around to be able to teach us that sometimes less is more.

If you're using Zdoom or something like that, and you don't want to lose your weapons, then type changemap map15 in console.

Nope

Yeah, MAP13 and MAP14 are tough. And visually they are just techbases. But I learned to love them, especially MAP13 because things are so tense, there is a cyberdemon with various monsters around in huge warehouse, there is a corridor with the simple zombie soldiers but you blast with bazooka or plasma gun and there are lot's of gibs there, it can become fun if you can manage.

But those are not the maps that makes me love AV. I love the early maps because of the atmosphere and simplicity while providing some frantic fights in short, but mainly the famous maps that made it in TOP100 for example like the egypt epic huge map Mirsi Halek (MAP20) and that other one Toxic something (MAP10) and MAP11 which is like 20 but with an arabic theme. From MAP25 it becomes too slaughtery, although I like few slaughtermaps if they do it right for me like leaving you plenty of space and become epic battles that you win. For example I love MAP25 (tought at start, but if you overcome you own the territory at the church as your base and you have the upper hand, also great mediavel theme and music), but hate MAP26 (which happens to be beloved in the community as it resembles those hot start with nowhere to run and symmetrical boring arena modern slaughtermaps). Then 27,28,29 are also slaughetry but managable. But yeah, I like AV for the previous very atmospheric maps, maybe it's nostalgia. I don't know how I managed through the later maps when I played this map a long time ago where my skills weren't even good. Hmm..

On UV there's only 10 total, and most of them are right after the yellow key. There's even an invulnerability near the key. The exit area I remember has mancubus and imps, and it's behind the cargo room with the cyber. I'd say the NE room (not the one where you teleport to the red key, with the teleporting imps, but the one before it) is the hardest. That and the BFG room and maybe the courtyard with spiderdemons and the cargo room. The zombieman corridor is still my favorite part of MAP13.

I liked Alien Vendetta a lot when I played it (back in 2013? I can't remember). I understand why it could be considered overrated nowadays. But it holds up and was a very good stepping stone from the IWADs for me. I always remember Nemesis, Beast Island, Overwhelming Odds, Misri Halek, Demonic Hordes, and Dark Dome quite fondly. Some of the other maps were more basic, box-and-hallwayish than I remembered, but they still mostly played well.

Also, I do consider Map26: Dark Dome the real final level in that WAD.

Hmm, good question. I wasn't great at Doom back then, so I just saved a lot and played slowly. But I enjoyed the maps because they were cool and big. But I also played continuously, which helped. Map14 is especially crazy, then it calms down a bit afterwards until later.