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Post by dn on Feb 14, 2022 19:26:06 GMT -5
Did my reasoning for preferring anime characters because they stay in the anime really go that far over your head An inability to leave childhood behind and engage with adulthood; an inability to express yourself as an adult without resorting to childish metaphors; an inability to interact with other human beings You are correct. An inability to face ugly truths over comforting fictions should have been included in my list.
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Post by noisyvelvet on Feb 14, 2022 19:43:47 GMT -5
The slippery slope fallacy is what I call a fallacious fallacy. In a perfectly logical system, yes the slippery slope is indeed a fallacy. But we humans are not perfectly logical; we're creatures of habit and this makes the slippery slope a real thing. Therefore for us humans the slippery slope is quite relevant and a valid argument. Also to add, how the hell can you chibi-fy a damn arachnotron? That thing is disgusting! Fallacious fallacy indeed. The reason it's a fallacy though isn't because it's false, but's because everything is a "slippery slope". For example, some people think the word "cuck" or Pepe the Frog are horsemen of some sort of apocalypse, and technically true! Or that seemingly paranoid individual on that ZDoom discord thread that I don't know too much about, the one where they were complaining about straight people or something leading to gay genocide. I also recall a thread here by 40oz trying to defame, passive aggressively, Christianity because their system incidentally funnels gays into priesthoods where they also get to hear adolescent masturbation stories - and per law of large numbers guess what happens. Anime is good, and people finding it weird is understandable.
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Post by kvsari on Feb 14, 2022 19:54:51 GMT -5
The slippery slope fallacy is what I call a fallacious fallacy. In a perfectly logical system, yes the slippery slope is indeed a fallacy. But we humans are not perfectly logical; we're creatures of habit and this makes the slippery slope a real thing. Therefore for us humans the slippery slope is quite relevant and a valid argument. Also to add, how the hell can you chibi-fy a damn arachnotron? That thing is disgusting! Fallacious fallacy indeed. The reason it's a fallacy though isn't because it's false, but's because everything is a "slippery slope". For example, some people think the word "cuck" or Pepe the Frog are horsemen of some sort of apocalypse, and technically true! Or that seemingly paranoid individual on that ZDoom discord thread that I don't know too much about, the one where they were complaining about straight people or something leading to gay genocide. I also recall a thread here by 40oz trying to defame, passive aggressively, Christianity because their system incidentally funnels gays into priesthoods where they also get to hear adolescent masturbation stories - and per law of large numbers guess what happens. Anime is good, and people finding it weird is understandable. That's a good reply.
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 14, 2022 20:58:11 GMT -5
EXCUSE ME!! I identify as a cyberdemon as that is what my brain and soul really are. I demand you all refer to me as CyberGokuma from now on. My pronouns are R'lyeh and fhtagn.
*Sees Arachnopr0nish "art"* *Vomits out major organs* (It's OK, I'm a Cyberdemon.) Jesus shit ass mungtardia derpcicle %&#$%*@$#%&#$@$!! That might be worse than Reverse Mermaids!
Watch out for the chicks who identify as super gore nests!
I like anime because there's lots to choose from and the better shows don't treat me like a drooling retard nor with contempt and then there's the fact that anime characters don't have twitter and don't give hot takes on Donald Trump's tweets only to get caught ten years past their prime having ties to an underage sex trafficking ring like their hollywood counterparts do (atleast those that get caught)
Heh, good dig on Hollywood there.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 14, 2022 22:23:55 GMT -5
okay im going to try and i didnt know you identify this way but its a very special way and its unique and i can support you. and im going to try to remember cybergokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 14, 2022 22:26:38 GMT -5
That bit was entirely a joke. I'm human, for now...
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 14, 2022 22:27:49 GMT -5
okay ... i wanted to just be friendly okay?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 1:06:05 GMT -5
A simple and most compromising answer would be that: people just like things. no more, no less.
If you want to hear my actual opinion on stuff I can assure you, roughly a half of stuff I'll write would be straight up insulting, for the most of people who are into anime or furry stuff. Mostly for furries since I feel no empathy or any positive feelings toward them and finding their fetish of dressing up in animal looking suits a bad tone and degeneracy.
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Post by deathevokation on Feb 15, 2022 4:55:28 GMT -5
Did my reasoning for preferring anime characters because they stay in the anime really go that far over your head An inability to leave childhood behind and engage with adulthood; an inability to express yourself as an adult without resorting to childish metaphors; an inability to interact with other human beings You are correct. An inability to face ugly truths over comforting fictions should have been included in my list. So because I find the culture of gluttonous, self indulgent lifestyles born of severe excess wealth, power, privilege and closed circles that Hollywood represents to be repugnant, this, alongside the way they treat people that are beneath them have taken it to the point where even looking at actors trying to act as relatable human beings in movies is something I can't do. I obviously am just having an inability to face ugly truths over comforting fictions.. why should I keep getting salty whenever they butcher another franchise and spitefully shoehorn ragebait into it to spite the previous audience (making something that was already sterile much worse in the process) and give us all crocodile tears about how they're oppressed when there's a backlash? I still like storytelling so I still want to experience that but why waste time on an industry that gets away with writing utter trash because it's a monopoly in it's format when there's better stuff out there? Also, how do you expect me to engage with you when your first post in a thread is a list like that and have in the past accused me of having an anime girl pillow when I was ranting about something completely different? How do I respond when it's valentines day and I'm spending it with someone? Do I grind the conversation to a halt to let you rephrase something so I can see where you're coming from or do I just play along when all I can really do is speak for myself? I am strict with myself when it comes to watching anime; not more than one episode a day if I'm watching a series and I don't feel I have to join a community to watch what I like. And yes there are sick shits out there whose brain is completely warped by porn and hentai, the slippery slope I've seen with them is that they descend into NTR and stop finding humans attractive altogether but we've yet to see where this slope ends, and then there's the crowd that was watching real children getting exploited on the deep web before they got into hentai and would switch between tentacle hentai and that.. see the famous journalist Kurt Eichenwald as an example. I dunno where I'm going with this really, but he did get publicly shamed and that's a good thing he did.
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Post by sosh on Feb 15, 2022 6:20:21 GMT -5
One of the reasons, I guess, for anime avatars becoming more widespread is that anime has become more popular over the years and the other one is that bigger userbase means there's a bigger chance to find someone with such interest. Besides, the website theme might contribute a lot to user's choice of avatar: e.g. you'd be more likely to meet anime avatars on anime site rather than metal torrent tracker or an MLP:FIM forum. You are correct. An inability to face ugly truths over comforting fictions should have been included in my list. Was further cementing yourself as an furfag animekid (by your own criteria) part of your plan?
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 15, 2022 8:11:19 GMT -5
lol does that mean dn is a fury
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Post by dn on Feb 15, 2022 8:58:44 GMT -5
I still like storytelling so I still want to experience that but why waste time on an industry that gets away with writing utter trash because it's a monopoly in it's format when there's better stuff out there? This is all probably fair enough - I'm not going to rag on someone for saying hollywood fucking sucks, because it quite clearly does. But I still think it's an avoidant personality trait, ceding sacred ground because a bunch of blue haired sex-offenders decided your shit was theirs now. And that avoidant personality trait seems to be really, really common in anime fans - dn's theory of anime v.s reality is hyperbole, but I stand by it. You also acknowledge the fact that the "community" is fucking rotten, and refuse to engage with it. But... dude, if you fucking enjoy something you ought to be doing something to, you know, protect it (or at least make the effort to redeem its reputation somehow). Your solution to the "Hollywood is full of pedophiles" problem is to ignore it; your solution to the "Anime is full of pedophiles" is to ignore it. That's not a sustainable position to take, if only because at some point Spielberg is going to be caught with his cock in a twelve year old and the industry is going to deflect and say "You think *that's* bad, oy vey, look at what these people are doing over here." Boom, say adios to your amusing cartoons. Was further cementing yourself as an furfag animekid (by your own criteria) part of your plan? "NO U" is not a valid argument. Throwing "further" into the sentence as if proving an existing fact is disingenuous. And it's ESPECIALLY not going to work against someone with a proven twenty year track record of hating both anime and fucking furfags. p.s fuck off spastic
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 12:11:45 GMT -5
dn damn, i've tried my best to just make a lighthearted post (well at least the best "lighthearted" approach i've could, given the topic). No need to dissect it with a blunt knife man. Geez. Funny that this dry, dark humour style of yours reminded me of a old friend that was into naruto and parkour. I don't think that the guy even speak english but i was reading and re-reading your post with his voice in my head. Anyways, who is your favorite member from the Uchiha clan: Sasuke or Itachi? just kidding
Look, it would be impossible for me to properly present you any objections i may have regarding a few points without exposing some personal baggage - as i would prefer to shift your analysis from generalisation (wich we agree a lot) to particulars (in which we may not). And when i've made this account i've agreed to keep my interactions more Doom and music related and refrain myself from delving into topics that would tackle into the demagogic views that certain figures around here have. And i also agreed upon not giving any direct personal exposition of how i deal with things irl - i've broke this rule once when a user reach out for 'starting again with a clean slate' and i felt compelled to share my approach with him. I don't regret it, but i'm not going to do this a second time.
I prefer to give to the interested persona a better idea of my views in a more indirect way. So when you have the time, give this a listen.
You've listed a Tolkien quote in your footnotes, so i assume you've read the books. If so, a particular arc that would also help you fill the blanks is Saruman's demise. As much as Christopher Lee did a hell of a job conveying Saruman's presence, the movie adaptation didn't gave the proper weight of the character's importance in all of the events that transpired. Let alone the symbolism around his purpose in Middle-earth, his fall and his denial in recapitulating his role - which ultimately lead him to his demise by the rotten fruit of his own deeds. If the books are still fresh in your mind, i think you'll get it. If not, pay closer attention to Gandalf's lines next time you're revisting them.
One final thing i would say is to be careful to not undermine your position by conceding to the 'guilty by association' mindset (in a general sense) or to the crunching numbers of 'this x thing produces y kind of person'. It will bite you back, so i suggest you to avoid it.
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 15, 2022 19:20:28 GMT -5
After careful deliberation, I've decided that the arachnopr0nish "art" is definitely much worse than reverse mermaids. The reverse mermaids are a silly, funny joke, most of the time, while arachnopr0n is just sick and utterly deviant from the start. Imagine you're blind or blindfolded with those breasts in your hands. Then you discover the sheer horror of what they're attached to. You may never have a boner again, probably because it just killed you like a female praying mantis does when it mates. It's stuff of Lovecraftian nightmares, with corrupted tits. I guess some like big abdomens and they cannot lie, but it would be wise to deport them, from the planet.
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Post by joe-ilya on Feb 15, 2022 20:28:00 GMT -5
I find turning the arachnotron into a little girl much creepier than giving them tits.
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 15, 2022 22:19:02 GMT -5
Yeah, debating what's most disturbing is probably not a healthy route to continue down.
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on Feb 15, 2022 23:11:22 GMT -5
The arachnotron hits you with its plasma -- stunning you just long enough to hurl an iridescent loogie of chemical polymers at your exposed skin. The phlegm blankets your every pore with stinging irritation; each scant second an agonizing burn that boils deep against your uncontested rage. Time plays out ever so slowly until for an instant you can move again, and so driven by this maddening attack you scratch at your melting flesh. This singular moment would prove to be your doom as the arachnotron fires another volley of plasma: each bolt of death a direct hit, pummeling you and sending your limbs flying like fireworks. Your bodily brushes give in and you hit the floor, coughing up blood on the brink of death still grounded on this mortal plane out of sheer will and spite. Just three seconds was all it took to prepare your grave. Your defiant spirit quickly drains as the arachnotron stands before you and metal doorways swing open on its thighs with a hydraulic mist. Thin metal arms contorted by tendons of sentient flesh stretch out and peel open the folds on your rearranged guts, your vision finally fading away until you all you feel is cold metal and hot sponge thrust inside of you. The arachnotron lays into your corpse as an incubator for its children. You die.
Thanks for reading my impromptu fanfiction.
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Post by kvsari on Feb 15, 2022 23:28:57 GMT -5
The arachnotron hits you with its plasma -- stunning you just long enough to hurl an iridescent loogie of chemical polymers at your exposed skin. The phlegm blankets your every pore with stinging irritation; each scant second an agonizing burn that boils deep against your uncontested rage. Time plays out ever so slowly until for an instant you can move again, and so driven by this maddening attack you scratch at your melting flesh. This singular moment would prove to be your doom as the arachnotron fires another volley of plasma: each bolt of death a direct hit, pummeling you and sending your limbs flying like fireworks. Your bodily brushes give in and you hit the floor, coughing up blood on the brink of death still grounded on this mortal plane out of sheer will and spite. Just three seconds was all it took to prepare your grave. Your defiant spirit quickly drains as the arachnotron stands before you and metal doorways swing open on its thighs with a hydraulic mist. Thin metal arms contorted by tendons of sentient flesh stretch out and peel open the folds on your rearranged guts, your vision finally fading away until you all you feel is cold metal and hot sponge thrust inside of you. The arachnotron lays into your corpse as an incubator for its children. You die. Thanks for reading my impromptu fanfiction. Hot damn. I must make sure to never die to an arachnotron in my future play sessions if this is the fate which awaits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2022 9:31:36 GMT -5
The arachnotron hits you with its plasma -- stunning you just long enough to hurl an iridescent loogie of chemical polymers at your exposed skin. The phlegm blankets your every pore with stinging irritation; each scant second an agonizing burn that boils deep against your uncontested rage. Time plays out ever so slowly until for an instant you can move again, and so driven by this maddening attack you scratch at your melting flesh. This singular moment would prove to be your doom as the arachnotron fires another volley of plasma: each bolt of death a direct hit, pummeling you and sending your limbs flying like fireworks. Your bodily brushes give in and you hit the floor, coughing up blood on the brink of death still grounded on this mortal plane out of sheer will and spite. Just three seconds was all it took to prepare your grave. Your defiant spirit quickly drains as the arachnotron stands before you and metal doorways swing open on its thighs with a hydraulic mist. Thin metal arms contorted by tendons of sentient flesh stretch out and peel open the folds on your rearranged guts, your vision finally fading away until you all you feel is cold metal and hot sponge thrust inside of you. The arachnotron lays into your corpse as an incubator for its children. You die. Thanks for reading my impromptu fanfiction.  Write 7 more of these and you've got yourself some damn good lyrics for a Cannibal Cake album; Tactics of the Cuppycaked.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 16, 2022 10:40:32 GMT -5
pintolin you are not even funny
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 4:24:25 GMT -5
There might yet be an excuse for temporary escapism into fictional paradise, which has nothing to do with someone's inability, and everything to do with someone having lived through so much unfair shit that it continues to haunt them, and appreciating more down-to-earth art is impossible because it triggers flashbacks. Although I've yet to see this being the reason to become an anime fan, as in practice they do seem to have infantile personalities.
So far, the only person I know of who had such an excuse is myself, but I didn't get interested in anime, I got interested in k-pop videos instead. Some idols groups, but some non-idol groups too. However, it has been long since I last watched them, as eventually I managed to overcome the flashback thingy. And on my own, by the way. Although the way I did this is seems to be that I just got with the paradigm that "world is not fair and a lot of people have malicious intent" and being the one to care about one's own survival, which also means I have full authority to do nasty things to other people whenever I feel threatened, and don't, in general, trust them. I recently had a chat with a girl who felt sad and decided to tell me about this and told she's recalling the event where we ate sushi together, but when I asked directly whether she is upset about us not meeting for quite some time, she asked me "Don't you sometimes feel sad for no apparent reason?" and I indeed realized I barely ever feel sad anymore, I feel anxiety instead.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Feb 17, 2022 8:44:52 GMT -5
me too and i hate kpop
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Feb 19, 2022 18:06:35 GMT -5
Its got to be the Fanbase that ruined it for me, i have nothing against the creators of these (unless you count the creators of Boku no Pico, i hate them) as long as it is a normal show i.e. Pokemon or Dragonballz or Death note etc. But when these stupid kids go on Tiktok or on comment sections and say ara ara and oniichan and uwu, whatever the hell those mean, things get irritating. I wish weeb culture would just die already.
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