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Post by Deathclaw886 on Jan 13, 2022 23:37:04 GMT -5
@bob page and the hilarious thing is that they had the gall to call me a bigot! that is one of many words that the left uses to describe someone who doesnt agree with their agenda, alongside others such as Racist, Sexist, Misogynistic, white privileged, etc. thats the shame about forums and servers, if somebody doesnt like what you have to say they can just block you, not like that would really help with the likes of them as they never will listen to you and if you say something factual to them they will screech at you like a possessed Chihuahua. We live in Clown World everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 11:00:17 GMT -5
Took you long enough to realise dw is running by woke, eh, OP?
Either way, welcome.
And, no. People (normal people) aren't confused about their gender. Liberal psychopaths are.
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Post by dr_st on Jan 14, 2022 11:26:29 GMT -5
I wish you stopped referring to these character types as "liberal". There is nothing liberal about the left. "Woke" is a better description, yes, but there is more to leftism that "woke", and it's all garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 12:17:59 GMT -5
I wish you stopped referring to these character types as "liberal". There is nothing liberal about the left. "Woke" is a better description, yes, but there is more to leftism that "woke", and it's all garbage. They are still considered "liberals" by today's political compass so, don't blame me on that. But you're right, "woke" is way better term there.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 14, 2022 14:16:52 GMT -5
Man, for someone who lives in Russia, you sure do talk about woke a lot. Don't y'all have bigger concerns over there?
Personally as a fellow Slav, I've never talked to a black person IRL. I also don't know a single bisexual person, let alone the more exotic parts of the lgbtabcdefghijkl+² spectrum. I do know a lot of gay people and one lesbian couple though.
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Post by dr_st on Jan 14, 2022 14:25:20 GMT -5
They are still considered "liberals" by today's political compass so, don't blame me on that. I am not blaming you for anything. I perfectly understand that "conservative vs liberal" is the way the political "right vs left" have been traditionally referred to, at least in the United States. However, sometimes it is important to stop and think how much the current values held by a certain political group correspond to whatever original meaning the names had. The words we use shape our thought. Sure the leftists like to think of themselves as "liberal", because the word has generally positive associations. However, most people who hold genuinely liberal values no longer associate themselves with the left.
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Post by optimus on Jan 14, 2022 17:48:53 GMT -5
and to put the cherry on top. i was helping someone who was saying that they were getting bullied in school because they were White, being called racist etc. i said to ignore them and that racism has lost its meaning now, people are just using it to describe someone/something they hate. and my post got helled and they gave me a warning for "Rudeness" saying this "Thinly veiled racism is still racism. What you're looking for is a class issue. Please do not conflate the two again." Oh god, that's so ridiculous! Rudeness? Thinly veiled racism? Class issue, which one? What they really say, we don't like your opinion, so we will call it all the bad things. When people get banned, it's almost never for truly hateful things. It's for innocent things they said that were either perceived as insensitive or political/cultural opinions they don't like and they think to just discuss them is bigoted on it's own. They just get angry at you for even bringing up a subject. That's too much protection in my opinion. Even the first statement, about someone being confused of their gender, is not hateful. If it's wrong, they should explain, start a discussion, even in a different thread, but they prefer to have this passive aggressive way of calling you out and then closing the thread. Like "my opinion is the truth now, and I am not allowing this to continue, because it's hateful or too dangerous or something". And I previously thought other communities were as bad. I know other communities where things get a bit more to the woke from the admin perspective but they don't ban as much, and worse they are gonna call you a white male, and things will get pissed but not closing discussions or banning everyone for even innocently bringing something up. It's a shame I am still visiting Doomworld because that's where more discussions are, and to be honest I even miss most of these incidents until I read about them here, because I end up reading threads about Doom, not the off-topic. I did wonder about bigger communities being appropriated and smaller communities forming, but the reality is most people will go to the big communities, especially normies who don't know better (till few of them get banned), so the big captured community still dominates. Eventually something has to break with these ideologues dominating communities. Maybe slowly more and more people waking up. I don't know, it's pretty darn now, although Doom is a leisure hobby so I might not care much, it doesn't affect my real life.
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Post by dangerousdaviebowie on Jan 14, 2022 22:20:40 GMT -5
Wait was I supposed to be banned to be on here? Really had no idea how extreme how DW is over their with their ban hammers. To be honest I'm somewhat torn between going forward with DW till I end up getting into an argument over there and kicked or just stick to anonymous doom mapping and just lurk on here.
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Post by Deathclaw886 on Jan 14, 2022 23:14:41 GMT -5
Wait was I supposed to be banned to be on here? Really had no idea how extreme how DW is over their with their ban hammers. To be honest I'm somewhat torn between going forward with DW till I end up getting into an argument over there and kicked or just stick to anonymous doom mapping and just lurk on here. DW is so uptight with their impossible to follow guidelines that it can be nearly impossible to not get a few warnings in a period of a few weeks. i got at least 8 total before i got permabanned. (and i also made an alt on there and somehow the mods immediately knew it was me and they banned it) so i wasnt too surprised to be banned from there after all of this time
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Post by 40oz on Jan 16, 2022 23:29:23 GMT -5
40oz I don't think doomworld's stuff is motivated by such noble pursuits. Care to explain, for example, how you and joe-ilya being banned fits into this pursuit? The permanent bans of you two were not due to anything related to making insensitive comments on gender and sexuality issues. And most people on DW will deny one can be banned for not taken the action against a specific user on your forum, for such act is hard to justify. Or how do you justify people being picked apart for issues related to Doom and not to off-topic discourse, such as not liking when people speed up monster projectiles? (Sorry, lost the bookmark, but the user who created that topic was Cynical IIRC) There is other plausible explanation for the way things are on DW. The one I consider is that doomworld is simply the DW's staff power outlet. It's where these particular folk have power over a great number of people, and power is not the means but the end to them. They are permanently banning people because they CAN first and foremost, they are not forced to make tough decisions, with such a huge user base any user is expendable. Now every now and then some people give them the moral excuse which can back their actions in the public eye, but not all bans have this fortunate property. They have ways to deal with this, such as banning people without assigning the banned status, so it looks like people just quit on their own, silencing discussions, pressure group gaslighting in advance etc. The want of such power CAN indeed originate in suffering a lot in real life indeed, but it's incorrect to think there is necessary a rational pursuit of creating a safe space. But no doubt some on doomworld will be pleased with your favorable depiction of them. And have it ever occured to you that not every queer person would consider DW a safe place to themselves? P.S. I recommend anyone having too good opinion of activism (BLM, LGBTQ+, human rights, etc.) do something like an "internship" in real-life activist group to see how much of it is dedicated to pursuit of power and not to actual helping the people who are suffering. They don't care about their own when these people can't be used to give them a positive public image. That is probably all correct too. There are certainly more than a few openly transitioned people on staff and in their community, (much more than here anyway.) There is for sure at least some degree of safety they feel more there than here. And i dont blame them given the openly right leaning members here whose belief systems would create a lot of friction with them. I do think even when doomworld staff is being crotchety about how to police their community, they at least believe they are doing the right thing. Everyone is the hero in their own story, you know.
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Post by 40oz on Jan 16, 2022 23:39:43 GMT -5
They are still considered "liberals" by today's political compass so, don't blame me on that. But you're right, "woke" is way better term there. I dont fully know your background prior to coming here, ive read your posts about being accused of things you didnt do and those are perfectly valid things to be frustrated about. It seems a lot like in your opinion, it was woke liberals that made you not ok and i dont get it. Again, not to minimize what youve gone through, but blaming it on the woke left sounds like a false enemy in the same way that religious zealots blame evil on the devil.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 6:54:13 GMT -5
dont fully know your background prior to coming here Back in time I've come here because it was yet another Doom corner and I felt I might need to go there, looking for something or deliver something of value. Sometimes I still do. It seems a lot like in your opinion, it was woke liberals that made you not ok and i dont get it. You see it a little bit wrong. I don't blame liberals for what I've got trough, I blame people that had to spread bullshit about me and probably still do. Though, about some of its background, I'm blaming myself, because the loss of control, rapid losing of mind and degrading in the walls of the military psyche ward. ut blaming it on the woke left sounds like a false enemy in the same way that religious zealots blame evil on the devil. Again, you've took my word in a bit wrong direction. I don't blame woke left for my misfortune. I blame them for degeneracy they push irl, that causing a lot of controversy and inadequate deeds and actions taken, the things that were considered wrong for ages now become normalised and some of these I can't be silent about, because it gets too far.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 11:31:42 GMT -5
They are still considered "liberals" by today's political compass so, don't blame me on that. But you're right, "woke" is way better term there. I dont fully know your background prior to coming here, ive read your posts about being accused of things you didnt do and those are perfectly valid things to be frustrated about. It seems a lot like in your opinion, it was woke liberals that made you not ok and i dont get it. Again, not to minimize what youve gone through, but blaming it on the woke left sounds like a false enemy in the same way that religious zealots blame evil on the devil. I think I see what kind of connection @wereknight sees between his treatment by those people and the woke movement: the latter uses and seeks to legitimize methods (like suspension or ex-communication without due legal process) that the former used against him personally. Since woke movement is large and prevalent and some politicians play to its flute, it means that he can expect being subjected to this kind of treatment in the future, or see people he cares about being subjected to it. Consider this example: although there was some pushback against the campaign to cancel Richard Stallman, which resulted him to be reinstated to FSF, in 2021 Debian mailing list, clear opponents of Stallman outnumbered clear defenders: www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002Btw, fun facts: 1. Richard Stallman is leftist and even campaigns for gender-neutral pronouns. That didn't prevent him from becoming a target of witch hunt claiming he is misogynist, etc. 2. I don't support every of his opinion, my support for him is because of free software movement and his general open-mindness Now I don't remember you ever denouncing cancel culture. The only feedback we got from you on this subject was is that it happens to both right and left, but you never made it clear that cancel culture in itself must be denounced. On the contrary, you supported Reddit and other platforms screening for abusive language and banning users, and said that these things are far from perfect, but a good thing - rather than considering these a very evil thing that shouldn't exist (leave judgement to courts for fuck's sake). Sorry, I don't have enough time to search right now for specific posts. I'm bringing this up because: 1) you seem to defend certain woke movements at least, like BLM 2) it is the source of my distrust of you: you seem to be politically motivated in what you protect or denounce, and you refrain from denouncing questionable acts because they might be used by political movements you prefer. And given that you are biased to protect things that may be useful for political current you adore, why do you find surprising that someone is afraid these things can turn on them? Actually, if anyone is more likely to be correct than the other, it is @wereknight and not you. In fact, you are in this situation already, as per Doomworld's staff attitute towards you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2022 23:07:32 GMT -5
I do think even when doomworld staff is being crotchety about how to police their community, they at least believe they are doing the right thing. Everyone is the hero in their own story, you know. What would be a plausible explanation for this: ketmar getting warnings for promoting his source portexactly how does it help anyone feel safer or is otherwise connected to the goal of making DW a 'safe space' for some protected category of people? Unless the only protected category is really the people in power, like in the real world with politicians using "safety" and "public interest" rhetoric, which ALWAYS ( zero fucking exceptions), concides with private interests of the ruling minority. You are basically now repeating what the protagonist of Nineteen Eighty-Four said to O'Brien, trying to give his theory on why did the Party desire the power. He claimed that Party believed it served interests of the people. Remember that O'Brien called him a fool in reply and pointed out the obvious truth that power is only ever seized for its own sake and not for the good of others? The safe space on DW exists for the staff only. It is their shield from all the other areas in their life where they are completely impotent, so they have to be all-powerful on their playground. Cacowads? "You don't own me, said Linguica" you can only nominate things, can't choose winners. Sourceport? Ditto. Everything has to be vetted by DW staff, they own the results of your mapping work, programming work, etc. or at least the judgement and public opinion of such. You don't own shit. Exactly how not being allowed to make your own judgement (and being prevented from expressing it to others by warnings and bans) makes one feels safe is beyond my comprehension. If the freedom to say 2+2=4 is granted, everything else follows. And that's one thing you can't say in places that claim to be safe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 1:54:36 GMT -5
Safe space my ass, Kiwi Farms are more safe space than doomworld these days. THE TROLLEY-WALLEY SITE, OF ALL FUCKING PLACES, IS WAY CLOSER TO THE TERM "SAFE SPACE" THAN ANY ACTUAL 'SAFE SPACE'. God we are REALLY leave in the Clown world, for real. That's why I really like KF. You're free to have any views or visions if you want too, nobody would pursue you for that if you are able to have a complex dialogue and actually stay correct about things, being somewhat on same drift with an opponent and shit. Unless your views include MAP\NOMAP (pedo) support or shit like ZETA movement (zoophiles, duh) then get ready for a funny cock ride, kekw. And yeah before any monkey iq fellow who keep despise me and throw bullshit will come up with these screencaps again: you're kinda late to the party, assholes, farmers saw them too an I still walk free among them, untouched and not hunted down because those participated in talk exchange were agreed on "that's he said\she said shit that was a time ago, this fellow don't actually support this stuff said and it was in ill mind at the time done, he's alright now so why keep up with that, move on." stuff. KYS in minecraft, ebanashki. It is their shield from all the other areas in their life where they are completely impotent, That. Also worthy to note that it matters not how people are fine irl or not, if people like dw mods will confront those they have wronged online in real life it might come to bad luck for them. Because there will be no protection from the consequences of online shittery aformentioned mods have performed. I know you read this place Arlene. Pray to god we will never meet irl, cuz our "date" will en up in your tears. And given that you are biased to protect things that may be useful for political current you adore, why do you find surprising that someone is afraid these things can turn on them? Actually, if anyone is more likely to be correct than the other, it is MundusVivendi and not you. In fact, you are in this situation already, as per Doomworld's staff attitute towards you. Me? Eh, no, listen, I just trying to be realistic about stuff, I don't see any reason looking at everything trough gloomer\doomer glasses. Yet, unfortunately, the doomer vision prevails because the fact on how both people's real life and online presence have gone to utter shit. "You can say this, you can't say that, you must always support X group and let 'em indoctrinate your children because Y Z Q W E R T Y else you bigot and diddling kids and whatevs" - see this? This is what an American reality these days. At some extent, it becomes the reality in Motherland too and that saddens me.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 20, 2022 5:11:33 GMT -5
Go outside you retards
Nobody cares
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 5:42:55 GMT -5
BIG DICK NIGGA Having a meltdown, kid? Everybody knows there is only one literal retard on this forum, and that is precisely you.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 20, 2022 6:17:07 GMT -5
No it's not. I absolutely unironically have a genius level IQ.
You're off the meds again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 7:35:01 GMT -5
Go outside you retards Nobody cares Not convincing enough, 0\10.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 20, 2022 8:46:21 GMT -5
@wereknight your posting about how some random people on some website think you're a pedophile REALLY GETS OLD. It doesn't matter in real life. They don't know your name, and even if they do, you live in fucking Russia so they couldn't bother you even if they had the exact coordinates of your house. Relax and do something more fun.
Hopefully that was more convincing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 9:57:20 GMT -5
BIG DICK NIGGA 1. You know next to nothing about how real life works. 2. You didn't bother to actually read the previous discussion where I pointed out a plausible enough connection between @wereknight's personal dealings with some quick-to-judge fuckers and the woke. 3. You also paid no attention to @wereknight also mentioning that this cancer is setting its roots in Russia already. 4. You are not the person to teach others anything, you are a mentor to absolutely no one, as per your actual (not your imagionary) intelligence qualifications. The rest is not to you, but to those other people who do read: Few people actually have plans to staying in Russia indefinitely, under present conditions. And even if one stays, Russia has a very interesting way to implement internation treaties it has signed on subjects like terrorism and the like. All this shit turns inward, or the happenings in the West are used as a scapegoat to implement "traditional values" in totalitarian fashion. The fact there is even nowhere to plead help from (for not only West is unwilling, but is also morally corrupt and degenerate) and that Putin's rule will endure who knows how many years or decades (no possibility of bloody revolution, and even that is quite a risky endeavour) makes the situation very bleak. A lot of us have things to fear in real life, and for some, neither Russia nor the West in their current form are the places where we would feel safe. That's actually makes relaxing pretty difficult, EVEN with prescription drugs. After all the goal is not to medicate one out of anxiety and into happy delusion, but to find a solution to the fucking problem of survival while remaining true to one's values, and very preferrably not in prison. Now, as a person who looks where to migrate, the happenings in first world certainly concern me. What happens in some third world country wouldn't be of concern to me on the other hand, cause like fuck I would be moving there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 10:41:08 GMT -5
your posting about how some random people on some website think you're a pedophile REALLY GETS OLD. It doesn't matter in real life. Have you seen anything in my recent posts about false accusations? no? then wash your eyes, for fuck sake. It doesn't matter in real life. Oh, but it does. Even in my case. Because you know, some degenerates are THAT devoted, really. I don't need to go far, one of my former friends have been on vacation tour in Europe, got swatted for "wrongful, extremist thoughts" because he dared to call one whiny furfag by words he truly match up. Was detained for a month and come back then, but not before doing that asshole a service in form of furry's car got bashed up by local ghetto inhabitants. Do I need to point out why? Stuff. Matters. Always. Even when you thing it doesn't. Because people tend to be rretards and in majority of cases THEY ARE RETARDS. A lot of us have things to fear in real life, and for some, neither Russia nor the West in their current form are the places where we would feel safe. Yes and I can confirm that, personally. Been having a convo with local Catholic priest recently, haven't expected him to say that, looking by current state of the world, the only possible solution for a person to feel safe completely is death. I can't agree nor disagree with that, honestly, because at some point, he's right, there's no real escape from the idiocy each and everyone is facing, nor it is a guaranteed that when we pass out all the worryings and shit will be over. We may die physically, but spirit, however, lives a lot longer than a frail flesh, and spirits, while getting stuck in between realm plans, can go nuts, slowly\rapidly. Now, as a person who looks where to migrate, the happenings in first world certainly concern me. What happens in some third world country wouldn't be of concern to me on the other hand, cause like fuck I would be moving there. Happen to have same problem for ages. I'm really willing to gtfo from here asap, but during the current way of things it draws to be near to impossible. The only places that even remotely fitting to what I seek for are... well, Poland and Bulgaria. That's all the variables that don't suck as much as the rest of everything else. Might to look at England but, fuck no, the stuff that is going on there atm doesn't seem to be even close to healthy.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 20, 2022 11:22:36 GMT -5
Can you please tell me more about the furfag situation? I have a feeling you left some details out. People don't get jailed for merely calling some guy on the street a {Homophobic Slur in Violation of the ProBoards Terms of Service}. Or at least I don't think they do?
Also lmao at wanting to emigrate to BULGARIA of all places. Things are that bad huh? A gulag is better than Bulgaria. Poland seems pretty dope though.
Oh and lastly yes I do feel like you bring up the situation in almost every post you make, in one way or another.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 11:40:30 GMT -5
Can you please tell me more about the furfag situation? I have a feeling you left some details out. People don't get jailed for merely calling some guy on the street a {Homophobic Slur in Violation of the ProBoards Terms of Service}. Or at least I don't think they do? They do from not so long time ago. Works the same way you call a transdork by his real, biological gender. And calling furfag the words he should be named are implied to be an insult in some of EU countries. He haven't told me where he have been exactly but I have a feeling he might have visited either Denmark, France or Chech republic. Oh and lastly yes I do feel like you bring up the situation in almost every post you make, in one way or another. Proves that you don't read what people are writing.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 20, 2022 11:58:32 GMT -5
I live in Czech* Republic and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have happened here. Like it's by far the most libtard Slavic country but not that libtard. France also seems too based for that.
But then again it's not like harassing randoms is a good thing so... yes, even when they belong to a group of people you are not particularly fond of. I promise you that if you behave, you won't have issues even in the cucked unbased bluepilled West. I've been here for 4 years now and somehow still haven't been deported. Although a few times it got close.
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