The danger of wokeness

if you really want to look at the danger of wokeness look at major arlene as she have succumed to that shit completely. Just an advice.

nah she aint woke.

>Hears a shit about person.
>Do not doubt and believe this on instant.
>Bans somebody and accuse them in fucked up shit.
>When get to know that was not what she thought it was does not accept the reality and keeps pushing the shit she've heard.

YOU THINK?

Well that was pretty much clear for the last 7 years I've spent with DW.


Which is hypocritic and obviously a bullshit statement.

I wonder what would they do\say if their actions would lead to the suicide of somebody they cancelled like that. What impact it would have for them and these who surround them.



Not going to happen, adequate part of DW would either be shut or leave that place, so only those supporting such degenerative behaviour would stay here. And that'd be enough for them.

So what you're saying is this entire time I was WOKE?! Since I agree with most of those statements.
But I thought I was a racist, sexist, anti semite, nazi!

In that case no. I know a few lefty nutcases I am or used to be friends with, one of them in particular was an ex bandmate, and the hypocrisy in their beliefs were so fucking astounding I started drifting more and more to the right. Ironically that what I was accused of being. I got accused of supporting things I don't, nothing I say is right, I'm stupid I'm blah blah, then I get wayyyy too long paragraphs of stereotypical rhetoric that I'M NOT GOING TO FUCKING READ. I was once called a "conservative", which I'm not, because my views weren't progressive enough. I swear to the gods if I ever see that faggot in public I'm going to bust open his knee caps.

ahem anyway. All the activist that think they're fighting the problem just make it worse and make me fucking hate them despite us having "similar" beliefs. But I guess since I don't go all the way, since I'm not a communist retard, I'm evil.

You should change "understand" to "believe", because a lot of these statements are highly contentious opinions, and are not universally supported by data. Some ring true on the surface, but would fall apart under scrutiny. Others are just empty words.

But, part of "wokeness", and leftism in general, is fully believing that your set of values / opinions is the universal truth, and anyone who does not embrace them is an idiot / bad person. That's inherent to the cult.

let's hear it.

No, I wouldn't call "woke" someone who is speaking of these issues, which many of them are real problems (although the way they are expressed here are very exaggerated, like "climate change will kill us all!"). For me "woke" is this pseudo-activism where you try to find problematic speak in everyone and smear them be calling them all the isms. Also certain currents trying to push ideology in schools (like the recent criticism on CRT ideology in schools or the government and other institutions). It's a lot of things, and maybe it's the woke things are pushed, the radical intolerant way instead of having the discussion.

Although, some of the points here pushed to the extreme could bring wokeness. They rile up the mob to act irrationally and maybe that's what people see as woke. Maybe some of the subjects should not necessary be seen as woke but discussed, however they way things are I might instinctively see the exaggeration or how it relates to the expression of the woke.

I would be tempted to reply to some of the statements above, they are too many, but some of them I totally disagree. Few of them are weird, contradictory as I think the woke would say the exact opposite:

For example "- Poor people stay poor by being addicted to things, like sex, work, substances, gambling, religion, adrenaline, convenience, entertainment, etc."
I think this is something I would expect to hear from conservatives, for example Jordan Peterson says all the time "Clean your room bucko!" and the woke hates him for this. He asks them to take responsibility. Your above statement sounds like something the woke would hate, it's like saying "You are not poor because of the economical situation and the rich getting richer. You are poor because of your choices in life". Also, there is a contradiction in your statement, you say poor people stay poor because they are addicted to all these bad things, but inside these bad things you also mention "work". Workaholism is another issue, but it would definitely not get you out of poverty in most cases.

Second example "Higher education is a joke". But this is what the anti-woke people are saying about the universities giving degrees in "gender studies" and indoctrinating students to believe in the woke. The conservatives will say higher education is a joke and would prefer home-schooling (which in my opinion is not a bad idea of there is indeed such a high degree of indoctrination in the universities.

Now, some of the other statements would be considered as woke if you express them in absolute terms, like "Our country that we reap the benefits from is built on a long disgusting legacy of slavery and racial superiority" or "Our country still has elements of racial superiority left behind in our laws and our culture that our govt and many citizens refuse to acknowledge". It absolutely riles up this sentiment that no matter what you do, there will be always extreme racism, it binds with the other sayings from the woke about racism, it's still an absolute statement taken to it's absolute extreme, and still I think one has the right to discuss it. The problem is the woke will throw these statements like absolute truths and will attack anyone challenging them.

And finally "Women have been second-class citizens in the US since the beginning, and still are in a lot of ways". This ties up with the woke side of feminism. In fact, maybe even 1st and 2nd wave said something akin to "Men are oppressors, women are oppressed". It can't be the other way around, it's a tautology, any MRAs will be laughed at. I have a big issue with this statement (but you have the right to discuss it of course) as it seems now to me as something that is so oversaid it becomes common truth. It's like when people say "We use 10% of the human brain" and somehow this survived even if it's based on nothing (it even survived in the form of "Einstein Said It") but because it has the elements that will make most people go "Oh that's nice! It speaks of human potential, must be true" you hear it so much that everyone agrees. In the same way, if one looks at human history in a more objective way and not under the feminist lense, they might discover that there was never a case you can truly say women suffered and men were having a great time. It's a big topic, it's complicated to discuss, but after watching some Honey Badger Radio and read the Myth of Male Power by Warren Farrell, my view has shifted. I would naively think in the past that's how it is because some people in the past (from greek philosophers to others in other cultures and later eras) said disparaging things about women that would make one blush today, but the whole history is a history of men and women cooperating for survival, men going to wars to protect their land and their families, you'd have women at home but the men would go to do dangerous jobs, men didn't simply own women as the feminists believe but they had great risks and responsibilities, I can only see the whole history as a history of symbiosis between men and women, forming families, which then made the community stronger, rather than a tale of oppressed VS oppressor. I have heard and read enough to at least doubt the statement you said above. And it's fine if we disagree, it's just the one statement that would still make me scream "NO!". No, the woke feminists will justify any of their actions as reparations for the 2000 years they were supposedely oppressed. That's what bothers me. There is no attempt to see history objectively, it's always under the feminist lense.