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Post by 40oz on Jan 6, 2021 17:23:29 GMT -5
A trump rally in Washington DC has gone violent protesting the 2020 election results. There's like a thousand different sources covering this right now, hard to find one who is covering without their own commentary on it. I just started looking into it now so I don't really have any thoughts on it yet.
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Post by 40oz on Jan 6, 2021 17:31:48 GMT -5
Oh shit only like 10% of them are wearing masks. A lot of people are gonna die soon. :/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 17:34:13 GMT -5
Yeah. This is really fucked up. Embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 17:47:06 GMT -5
The leftist Wikipedia editors really want to believe that there are neonazis. Not proven yet.
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Post by 40oz on Jan 6, 2021 17:50:01 GMT -5
Why is it embarrassing? Are you there?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 17:54:00 GMT -5
Lol, no. I'm just thinking, those are people that criticized liberals for not accepting the president in 2016 and criticized blm riots.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 17:58:45 GMT -5
Boogaloo engaged. Power word: "Kill".
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 6, 2021 18:17:38 GMT -5
Surprised this didn't happen on the 3rd of November tbh Does anybody take America seriously at this point? Hopefully this is the year when the world figures out China and Russia rule the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 18:30:55 GMT -5
Hopefully this is the year when the world figures out China and Russia rule the future. Fully agree on China but the Russian government is busy robbing its own people; I don't think it's capable of affecting the world that much.
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Post by dn on Jan 7, 2021 7:56:53 GMT -5
Nice. Looks like the Left's order for Nazis was finally approved for dispatch.
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Post by GRUG on Jan 7, 2021 11:08:03 GMT -5
I'm waiting for the mental gymnastics from the left on how the past 7 months of BLM/ANTIFA protests (which had an astronomical magnitude of violence, riots, destruction, assaults, and deaths by left wing criminals) were totally fine, yet MAGAtards who protested 1 day and it's "Oh my God violence and rioting is now bad!" The manipulation is absolutely astonishing. Senators and media NPCs who promoted the protesting from months ago (and even as far back as 2016 when orange man got elected) are now shitting their pants that the opposite side turned the tables on them. How quickly they changed their tune.
Left wing logic:
2016 election riots - "Russia made our election fraudulent! Not muh president, resist and disrupt by any means necessary!"
2020/2021 election riots - "Election fraud isn't possible. Stop being a conspiracy tard."
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Post by optimus on Jan 7, 2021 12:50:15 GMT -5
Oh shit only like 10% of them are wearing masks. A lot of people are gonna die soon. :/ I doubt it will make much difference. The mortality of covid is very small, most of these people are young and besides that we already had insane protests bigger than this (BLM, even in countries outside US where I think is totally unnecessary) with extremely packed numbers of people. However, the whole situation: 1) Worries me (one angry group against another angry group, nobody is gonna back) 2) Embarasses me (maybe because it could point anyone who was critical of the woke and not much of Trump and say it was your fault because you were part of the problem for not being 100% "orange man bad") 3) Makes me want to close twitter (just our group vs their group, people compare BLM vs this event, two different world views about which protests are justified or not, more violent or not) 4) Worries me that will give one side of the political spectrum the excuse to supress different views 5) Wish to time travel back as not only 2021 but the years that come could be worse (mostly because of the economical disaster coming from the lockdown, adding fuel to the political divisions) At some point (even long before today) I was like, yeah I don't know about the legitimacy of the results, but regardless who I would support, finish this and give it to Biden, you had your 4 years it's their turn now. Because if you were able to overturn the results even with legal means, people on the left would still feel disenfranchise (imagine, they lost their shit in 2016 when Trump had the EC at leat, how much if now Biden has more votes and the EC, but somehow Trump managed to overturn this, wouldn't make sense) and the riots would be so much worse that Trump wouldn't be able to govern. So,. you know what? I'd wish Trump would just give it gracefully at this point and let them govern for the years to come, regardless I don't like the modern left. I realize only that politics makes us all bad, one can predict what every person on twitter says about the current events, depending on their profile. And it's all biased, we are living in two parallel realities.
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Post by deathevokation on Jan 7, 2021 13:25:21 GMT -5
Oh shit only like 10% of them are wearing masks. A lot of people are gonna die soon. :/ Because if you were able to overturn the results even with legal means, people on the left would still feel disenfranchise (imagine, they lost their shit in 2016 when Trump had the EC at leat, how much if now Biden has more votes and the EC, but somehow Trump managed to overturn this, wouldn't make sense) and the riots would be so much worse that Trump wouldn't be able to govern. Election integrity cannot and must not be allowed to be held hostage by protesters, that's just encouraging protesting.. I doubt Trump would be able to overturn it anyway, democrats have been trying to run out the clock and it's been working.
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Post by 40oz on Jan 7, 2021 14:02:30 GMT -5
Oh shit only like 10% of them are wearing masks. A lot of people are gonna die soon. :/ I doubt it will make much difference. The mortality of covid is very small, most of these people are young and besides that we already had insane protests bigger than this (BLM, even in countries outside US where I think is totally unnecessary) with extremely packed numbers of people. This is a side event to a rally Trump orchestrated over social media. There's a bunch of interviews with people who traveled from nashville, georgia, and a bunch of other places around the country. If it doesn't kill some of them first (it might or might not, but I do see a lot of gray hair in these videos,) these people will return home where they will most likely remain maskless, with latent symptoms and transmit it to their friends and families and surrounding community, exacerbating the pandemic significantly. The George Floyd protests were nationwide, most people didn't have to go very far to attend one. In Philadelphia, there were people with stacks of boxes filled with individually plastic wrapped facemasks handing them out. It was impossible to find someone (other than police and military) that wasn't wearing one. I distinctly remember being impressed with how many precautions were taken voluntarily.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 14:28:29 GMT -5
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Post by deathevokation on Jan 7, 2021 17:47:03 GMT -5
I doubt it will make much difference. The mortality of covid is very small, most of these people are young and besides that we already had insane protests bigger than this (BLM, even in countries outside US where I think is totally unnecessary) with extremely packed numbers of people. The George Floyd protests were nationwide, most people didn't have to go very far to attend one. In Philadelphia, there were people with stacks of boxes filled with individually plastic wrapped facemasks handing them out. It was impossible to find someone (other than police and military) that wasn't wearing one. I distinctly remember being impressed with how many precautions were taken voluntarily. Antifa is as far from an organic grassroots movement where everyone just goes to a local rally to show their support as you can possibly get, tho.. also i doubt the deathtoll will get higher than the 4 people that were killed.
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Post by Justince on Jan 7, 2021 18:02:34 GMT -5
It wasn't a riot. It was a protest. If this was a 'riot' then what BLM perpetrated was open civil war. It was a bunch of hicks stealing cunt-Pelosi's mail and trashing a few offices and taking selfies. They didn't burn any buildings down, murder anyone, or openly kill any police officers. Nor did they destroy 6 square blocks of a public city and threaten or harass innocent people living there or demolish their businesses. Anyone who attempts to equate this pathetic Capitol rush by trailer trash to any form of violence committed by Antifa or BLM is entirely full of SHIT.
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Post by deathevokation on Jan 7, 2021 18:24:20 GMT -5
It wasn't a riot. It was a protest. If this was a 'riot' then what BLM perpetrated was open civil war. It was a bunch of hicks stealing cunt-Pelosi's mail and trashing a few offices and taking selfies. They didn't burn any buildings down, murder anyone, or openly kill any police officers. Nor did they destroy 6 square blocks of a public city and threaten or harass innocent people living there or demolish their businesses. Anyone who attempts to equate this pathetic Capitol rush by trailer trash to any form of violence committed by Antifa or BLM is entirely full of SHIT.From what I've heard from this report; there's footage showing cops opening the way for them and inviting them in.. although ofcourse it's not all clear at this time, you'd have to wait until the white noise and gaslighting dies down.. and by then the power would have transitioned to Biden.
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Post by Justince on Jan 7, 2021 20:31:22 GMT -5
It seems a Capitol cop has died. His name and cause of death is not known. (money's on friendly fire)
Kinda strange that Antifa weren't around to you know, counter protest or stop these guys. That would be your riot right there. Everyone knew they were having a rally, the news had been hyping (anticipating) violence since the election. Weird how Antifa and BLM would suddenly show up at the perfect times just a few month ago whenever a cop fucked with some black guy. Hey look, now some shit's on fire. "Come on man, this is how revolution starts." *tweet* blue checkmark.
You'd think since they are telling us that Joe Fucking Biden is the greatest, most popular person to ever be elected totally-officially since the dawn of human civilization there would be a massive, fucking HUGE crowd of fans there to see he's confirmed. But I guess not. In fact it looked like the exact opposite. Whatever, no one can do shit now. Big tech are already changing history and erasing evidence or any talk of election fraud. It can't even be mentioned. So none of this shit matters.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Jan 7, 2021 20:48:34 GMT -5
a massive, fucking HUGE crowd of fans there to see he's confirmed. But I guess not. In fact it looked like the exact opposite. I wonder why is that...
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Post by DOEL on Jan 7, 2021 21:23:24 GMT -5
I hope this all sheds a light for everyone on how important rhetoric is.
I don't understand what these people even want. Outside of his post-modern relationship with the media, Trump is just another typical Republican president policy wise. Prentending to be anticorruption while fully participating in it doesn't make one any less corrupt.
Hell, Biden and the majority of Democrats are capitalists too just with the facade of social justice. They're practically just moderate Republicans with a different aesthetic. Nothing is going to fundamentally change. All the illusion of choice if you ask me when both parties are just different brands of neoliberal.
Big LOL at the right wingers trying to equate rioting over the very real injustice of cops being held to no standard and a misguided political minority trying to overturn democratic process based on, well, pretty much no evidence? But you know what? Rioting IS a legitimate form of political speech. When no peaceful, legal recourse is offered, shit gets set on fire. The question is whether you believe the cause to be just.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 0:08:19 GMT -5
Machiavellian conspiracy: Trump fools "tough on crime" Biden so that the latter passes anti-riot bill shortly after he is inaugurated.
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Post by dr_st on Jan 8, 2021 11:52:14 GMT -5
I don't understand what these people even want. I bet that's exactly what folks on the opposite side of the political spectrum were feeling during the BLM/Antifa/whatnot riots this last summer. "What do they want? Are they protesting police violence and lack of accountability? Do they actually think that citizens would be better off and safer if there were not police at all? Why are they destroying private property and vandalizing businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with anything on their proclaimed agenda? Contrary, it's pretty easy to understand what Trump's supporters in DC want. They genuinely believe that the election was stolen from their preferred candidate by a mass injection of fraudulent votes, they want that overturned, and they think that by doing so they are saving democracy, not destroying it. But you know what? Rioting IS a legitimate form of political speech. When no peaceful, legal recourse is offered, shit gets set on fire. The question is whether you believe the cause to be just. Most normal people indeed believe that there are certain extreme situations where violence is indeed justified. It's just not easy to agree on what constitutes a just cause and whether a situation is extreme enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 12:28:28 GMT -5
What made the recent incident feel impactful is that the Congress was besieged. Not just any police station in some state. I suspect the government will take its vengeance upon the public soon.
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Post by 40oz on Jan 8, 2021 13:35:32 GMT -5
I bet that's exactly what folks on the opposite side of the political spectrum were feeling during the BLM/Antifa/whatnot riots this last summer. "What do they want? Are they protesting police violence and lack of accountability? Do they actually think that citizens would be better off and safer if there were not police at all? Why are they destroying private property and vandalizing businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with anything on their proclaimed agenda? Most of the summer, I was exhaustively scrolling through denigrating comments and assumptions about the BLM protestors, the illegtimacy of antifascism, the corruption of black lives matter, the nonexistence of racially targetted police brutality and more. With most of them just being far too hardheaded to even bother engaging with, I did find some comments that seemed at least slightly lukewarm enough to respond to. Respectful to the fact that the movement needed as much support as possible, I would mindfully and carefully acknowledge that I understand what this probably looks like from the outside, and then cite directly contrasting and more recent evidence to disprove the disinformation they would spread with their comments. I'd do this respectfully, avoiding any sort of namecalling, condescension, or insinuation that they are stupid or ignorant. As softly and politely as I possibly could, (and that's not easy for me,) I'd find a comment saying x never happens, and I'd link them to a news article or a video that demonstrates that exact thing just happened a few days ago, or something to that effect. I yeilded maybe a 5% success rate in winning them over (and I count no response at all as success.) They often returned with laughing reactions, calling me a cuck or a soyboy or whatever and I'd just have to take it on the chin that they weren't going to seriously consider the facts and just go with their gut feelings on the subject instead. All season, my news feed was flooded with pictures and video documentation of police abuse before and during the protests, the names of the many black people shot and killed by police, or white american vigilantes who received insultingly weak sentences for murder, the names of officers who haven't been charged for murder, haven't even been fired, haven't even received disciplinary action, or have been charged but won the case through qualified immunity, etc. Having read as many comments I've read, it made me absolutely sure that right and left media are delivering completely different interpretations of the same sets of facts. This wouldn't have to be as much of a problem as it is if more people on the right were genuinely curious about things and asking the questions just as you've highlighted above with a legitimate interest in the answers, but I almost never saw a spark of curiosity in anyone on the right at all. It was so common that I would scan their comments and look for question marks, and they'd be almost exclusively used for questions they go on to answer themselves in their own comments, or more often, after a sarcastic facetious question. "Are you really this stupid?" etc. Stuff of that sort is pretty well documented here: doomer.boards.net/thread/1743/chokes-death-crowd-begs-stop
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