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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 8:55:53 GMT -5
That's really lame.
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Post by 40oz on Aug 11, 2020 12:06:04 GMT -5
weird for a company with an infinite budget
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Post by dn on Aug 11, 2020 16:14:05 GMT -5
not so weird when you realize that Disney is financially fucked.
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Post by Justince on Aug 11, 2020 16:46:38 GMT -5
I look forward to never being able to see these films they way they were intended again.
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Post by dn on Aug 11, 2020 17:50:46 GMT -5
Dunno. I find the higher resolution on films like Aliens makes the sets look like the cheap plastic shit that they were.
Also, fuck Disney. The best future for the Fox titles is for another company to buy them during the impending fire-sale as the mousehouse tries to desperately stave off bankruptcy.
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Post by dmdr on Aug 12, 2020 1:27:38 GMT -5
not so weird when you realize that Disney is financially fucked. are they? I haven't been paying attention. (I'm assuming this has something to do with their embarrassing mishandling of Star Wars?) |
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Post by dn on Aug 12, 2020 1:54:32 GMT -5
are they? I haven't been paying attention. (I'm assuming this has something to do with their embarrassing mishandling of Star Wars?) Partially, though not as much as internet autists seem to think. They massively over extended themselves with the Fox deal and are hemorrhaging money because of their parks being closed due to AIDS 'rona. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 2:37:15 GMT -5
Dunno. I find the higher resolution on films like Aliens makes the sets look like the cheap plastic shit that they were. Yeah, exactly. These films were made with the then-current technologies in mind. HD releases will usually result in some artifacts and unintended effects. I'm not convinced by this "the way they were intended to be seen" talk. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 9:56:38 GMT -5
Dunno. I find the higher resolution on films like Aliens makes the sets look like the cheap plastic shit that they were. Also, fuck Disney. The best future for the Fox titles is for another company to buy them during the impending fire-sale as the mousehouse tries to desperately stave off bankruptcy. That's is probably true, it is better to keep the film quality on par with the set quality. It also gives it that gritty, dark feeling. Same with how Doom looks like shit with higher resolution filters, and settings. |
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Post by dn on Aug 12, 2020 11:45:51 GMT -5
doomerboards VHS master-race rise up yo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 11:56:51 GMT -5
Is it me, but I've noticed that new forms of media fail at convincingly trying to recreate old looking media footage. Like if you are watching a new movie that has what is supposed to be presented as an old film reel, or broadcast, you can tell it is not legit.
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Post by dn on Aug 12, 2020 13:07:18 GMT -5
probably because they are forced to use special effect filters, rather than the original equipment.
Being on the cutting edge means selling off your old lab periodically to the third world in order to fund the nice new shit. Which is a problem, because I doubt Disney could even develop film stock these days, they simply don't have the facilities.
In addition, who knows what the hell the first technicolor films looked like back in the day? What remains is either degraded or desaturated by time, or retimed and "remastered" by retards and best-guess algorithms. Film restoration is fucked because it's 10% academic, 40% appealing to modern sensibilities in order to sell shit, and 50% stopping the old catalog from falling into the public domain. Which brings me back to my original point: Fuck Disney.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 15:55:11 GMT -5
Reminds me of this haha:  |
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Post by Justince on Aug 12, 2020 16:59:45 GMT -5
I wasn't referring to the resolution or whatever misguided VFX fuckery Disney attempts, I am more concerned that Disney will censor these films and with no physical copies being produced unless you already own them they will be only available in their altered digital form forever.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 17:49:51 GMT -5
Reminds me of this haha: I guess the old tube televisions created a sort of gaussian blur effect, that is lost on the clarity of new screens. |
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Post by 40oz on Aug 12, 2020 18:11:10 GMT -5
Is it me, but I've noticed that new forms of media fail at convincingly trying to recreate old looking media footage. Like if you are watching a new movie that has what is supposed to be presented as an old film reel, or broadcast, you can tell it is not legit. What do you see that gives it away? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 19:43:41 GMT -5
It says video unavailable.
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Post by thundercunt on Aug 12, 2020 21:33:38 GMT -5
1080p is enough for me
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Post by morpheuskitami on Aug 13, 2020 19:03:05 GMT -5
probably because they are forced to use special effect filters, rather than the original equipment. Being on the cutting edge means selling off your old lab periodically to the third world in order to fund the nice new shit. Which is a problem, because I doubt Disney could even develop film stock these days, they simply don't have the facilities. In addition, who knows what the hell the first technicolor films looked like back in the day? What remains is either degraded or desaturated by time, or retimed and "remastered" by retards and best-guess algorithms. Film restoration is fucked because it's 10% academic, 40% appealing to modern sensibilities in order to sell shit, and 50% stopping the old catalog from falling into the public domain. Which brings me back to my original point: Fuck Disney. Hmm, I dunno. Parts of the newest version of Metropolis still looks like shit when they could have easily screwed with it to make it look semi-decent. It seems to me that such shitty rereleases are usually the result of a studio that doesn't give a toss. Which is, Disney, admittedly, but labels who can't afford to fuck things up don't do such things as far as I can tell. |
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Post by dn on Aug 13, 2020 19:30:14 GMT -5
Hmm, I dunno. Parts of the newest version of Metropolis still looks like shit when they could have easily screwed with it to make it look semi-decent. It seems to me that such shitty rereleases are usually the result of a studio that doesn't give a toss. Which is, Disney, admittedly, but labels who can't afford to fuck things up don't do such things as far as I can tell. Metropolis is a fairly fringe case. The latest release contains lost footage recently pulled from a fucking can that was found at the bottom of some fucking salt-mine / Anne Frank's attic. So extreme degradation is a thing, which could be fixed, if it weren't for my second point: the copyright on the film is long expired. It's public domain, and can be reproduced freely. A studio could remaster it, but it's then settling itself in for a lawsuit, re: can a copyright be put on restoration of existing works? The fucking Joyce / Tolkien industry seem to think that this is the case: fix a typo in the original manuscript (and cynically introduce another one to future-proof your copyright) and you are good for another 70 years. Disney just take another route, and bribe senators instead (see: Mickey fucking Mouse for details on copyright & public domain law). The fridge magnet industry just tell everyone to suck their cock, and produce billions of Mona Lisas per year, telling whoever restored the original painting to savour the flavour of their admittedly giant & hairy genitals. Some university will eventually take it upon themselves to "restore" the print pro bono. How good this ends up looking is anyone's guess. |
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Post by morpheuskitami on Aug 13, 2020 22:15:10 GMT -5
Hmm, I dunno. Parts of the newest version of Metropolis still looks like shit when they could have easily screwed with it to make it look semi-decent. It seems to me that such shitty rereleases are usually the result of a studio that doesn't give a toss. Which is, Disney, admittedly, but labels who can't afford to fuck things up don't do such things as far as I can tell. Metropolis is a fairly fringe case. The latest release contains lost footage recently pulled from a fucking can that was found at the bottom of some fucking salt-mine / Anne Frank's attic. So extreme degradation is a thing, which could be fixed, if it weren't for my second point: the copyright on the film is long expired. It's public domain, and can be reproduced freely. A studio could remaster it, but it's then settling itself in for a lawsuit, re: can a copyright be put on restoration of existing works? The fucking Joyce / Tolkien industry seem to think that this is the case: fix a typo in the original manuscript (and cynically introduce another one to future-proof your copyright) and you are good for another 70 years. Disney just take another route, and bribe senators instead (see: Mickey fucking Mouse for details on copyright & public domain law). The fridge magnet industry just tell everyone to suck their cock, and produce billions of Mona Lisas per year, telling whoever restored the original painting to savour the flavour of their admittedly giant & hairy genitals. Some university will eventually take it upon themselves to "restore" the print pro bono. How good this ends up looking is anyone's guess. On that first part, I believe the situation with the copyright on Metropolis is ugly. The original version should be in the public domain, but because of international fuckery relating to how copyright used to work, is not. When the original eventually gets into the PD, couple of years from now (fingers crossed), it'll be the original chopped up version. The one that hasn't been heavily spread around since before the dawn of DVD.
And btw, they did decide that remastered works count as a new copyright. And I seem to recall something to do with extending music copyright to a much longer period than it already is. Honestly, the music industry (and Sonny Bono, rot in peace) are quite an unsung villain of the copyright story. Not to say Disney doesn't deserve some shit, but the music industry, especially now that they get like 50% of their earnings from old music, deserve a ton of shit.
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