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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 16:03:03 GMT -5
I'm starting to wonder if a society with mandatory military service really might be a good idea. NO.That will only make the state stronger. You know you're in a sorry state when you have to give up your liberty so a faceless government agent has to beat some sense in you. You should learn those things because you know it's in your best interest. You have to come to the point where you realize what a goddamn loser you are and get your sorry ass in line. What I mean by that, it has to be voluntary and the person in question needs to be convinced it's in their best interest. If the person in question is too stupid and weak willed to realize this before they are 30 then they fucking deserve whatever sorry state is coming their way and they fucking deserve whatever wortheless person they end up spending their life with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 16:09:39 GMT -5
Self-deprecation can be a healthy way to understand yourself and your mistakes, or you'll smash your head on the same wall. It's not about vulnerability, it's about invulnerability, coming out of the closet and not getting all bitchy when called out is invulnerability, but if you're going to cry because somebody called you a fag or something; then maybe you shouldn't have come out in the first place, that's like digging a ditch for yourself and crying for falling in. Therefore coming out is not for everyone. Yes and no. What self deprication means is that you are aware of being imperfect, you are aware of how hard it is and how often you fail and you are willing to share that self-knowledge with others but if you are just aware and do nothing about it then it's really just another form of mental self-pleasuring. Self-deprication is bad when it's about pleasure but good when it's about action. Awareness without action just highlights how much of a loser you are. In fact, it is worse because you are aware but are too weak to do anything about it and since you are also sharing it through jokes at your expense, everyone around you knows it too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 22:50:25 GMT -5
@doomro, I think the "self-deprecation" needs to be replaced with some other term, but you at least found a workaround around the words not capturing concepts perfectly: What self deprication means is that you are aware of being imperfect, you are aware of how hard it is and how often you fail and you are willing to share that self-knowledge with others but if you are just aware and do nothing about it then it's really just another form of mental self-pleasuring. Likewise, with your other post, I would drop the assertion "that will only make the state stronger" (it may or may not be true), but the rest is definitely true. The motivation to self-discipline must arise from within and can't be taught. Now, if one as a child - or at any later point in their life - was exposed to discipline, they would already have the knowledge how to do it and thus will naturally apply it when they come to this understanding. Otherwise there will be a learning process on how-to-do-it as well. Note that this exposure can be done in early childhood - army stuff is unnecessary. With regards to assertion "state will be stronger if military service is mandatory", Russia made its mandatory service a joke but created en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_Russia which, I think, is far less likely to rebel compared to regular army. I mean, state might be even stronger without mandatory military service but a very loyal president's "private army" and other highly loyal and professional military units. Why teach the rest of populace how to use guns, indeed? Although this part of debate (what makes the strongest state and how mandatory military service fits into this equation) is perhaps best tested by time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 4:56:51 GMT -5
It can be taught but the price of making the state stronger is not worth it. WW1 and 2 would not have been so awful if young 18 year old men, some of which couldnt't even grow a beard, weren't enslaved and told to shoot at people they didn't know. What about the guys who were sent to Vietnam? They had no business in that strange foreign land... Yeah, get in shape, learn to control your impulses, learn to work in a team, learn to shoot a gun. All very positive stuff. You don't need the state to teach you that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 18:07:43 GMT -5
I hope this video can be of value.
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