Any Deus Ex fans? I've made a Deus Ex level timeline
Jun 17, 2019 15:20:09 GMT -5
Post by nxGangrel on Jun 17, 2019 15:20:09 GMT -5
So one of the biggest questions I ever had as a kid... is what time did Deus Ex (1) happen and how long did it take? So I finally got around to doing it and started timing my playthrough.
---Rules---
1. The game must be played legitimately. No speedrunning, no glitch running, no skipping conversations, read as many newspapers, books, emails, etc as you can find. Missing any on accident is excusable however, as well as missing areas if you have a lack of resources to enter said area. Finish all goals and explore as much of the levels as possible.
2. Do not artificially inflate the time. While patience is needed for gameplay reasons, as well as exploring, do not sit and run the clock or waste time when it can be avoided.
3. Locations within hubs do not count. Things like bars, the smugglers den, and other locations within a level do not count to the time list as they can be entered and exited at any time during any playthrough and are largely irrelevant to the being within the hub.
Separate "mission" areas, like the ocean lab, do count however.
4. Minutes are rounded by fives. Too keep timing simple and more general, the minutes will be rounded by five and seconds will be discarded, as any playtrough can vary on length.
5. Previous hub areas that can be reached cannot be re entered. Areas like Battery Park to Hell's Kitchen, or Denfert-Rochereau to The Catacombs can be re entered in game, however to keep the time from being inflated (see rule 2) once a hub area is "finished" move on to the next one, as backtracking should be pointless.
---Notes---
1. I am playing on the mod GMDX and not vanilla. While it doesn't change the core gameplay too much beyond a few new tweaks in mechanics, some levels were given a few smaller areas to explore. This may or may not change how the timing could be worked, making some levels slightly longer to finish, but I mostly doubt this.
2. Also considering how well I know the game, from playing it over and over, my knowledge and skill is a lot better than most which can reduce the time it takes to for me to complete a level compared to most players, but my playtime is generally the same for every playthrough.
3. The way the "Days" are tracked is by Eastern Time.
4. This timeline is made assuming there is currently no daylight savings since the nights are longer. More specifically, I'm using the month of November as a base when the sunsets and rises.
5. I apologize in advance for any mistakes or errors I have made, I am not great at math, so please keep in mind I will have a few errors in the list. Also a lot of things are made out of assumptions because the game never explicitly tells you how long things take to get where. Please feel free to correct any mistakes you notice.
---Format---
Level Arrival Time Current Level Time (Current New York Time) +extra time from travel, Current ingame day, [Total Game Time Played| Total Level Time Played]
The Arrival Time of a level is the length of the previous level + added time from travel, if you haven't guessed
Let's get started!
=====================================================================================================
Liberty Island: Arrival Time: 7:00pm ET, Day 1 [Level Time: 1h 10m]
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 8:10pm ET, Day 1 [Total Time: 01:08:55 |Level Time: 30m]
Battery Park: Arrival Time: 8:45pm ET +5m [boat], Day 1 [Total Time: 01:30:24|Level Time: 30m]
Hell's Kitchen: Arrival Time: 9:30pm ET +15m [subway], Day 1 [Total Time:2:00:05|Level Time: 1h 30m]
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 11:05pm ET +5m [jock], Day 1 [Total Time: 3:28:19|Level Time: 15m]
Battery Park: Arrival Time: 11:20pm** ET +2m [jock]**, Day 1 [Total Time: 3:44:54|Level Time 5m]
Brooklyn Bridge: Arrival Time: 11:45pm ET +20m* [sewer], Day 1 [Total Time:3:52:16|Level Time 20m]
LaGaurdia Airport: Arrival Time: 3:05am ET +3h* [sewer], Day 2 [Total Time:4:12:22|Level Time: 50m]
*While the level design appears otherwise, LaGaurdia Airport in real life is a solid 3 hours away from The Brooklyn Bridge from walking distance. There is no way JC could have gotten to LaGaurdia so soon on foot, this suggests he would have been wandering the sewers for a few hours contrary to the level transition. This logic also applies to the transition between Battery Park and the Brooklyn Bridge, but at a much shorter distance.
**Arrival time is rounded down for consistency.
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 5:00am ET +5m [jock], Day 2 [Total Time: 5:00:38|Level Time: 10m]
Hell's Kitchen: Arrival Time: 5:15am ET +5m [jock], Day 2 [Total Time: 5:12:56|Level Time: 55m]
Majestic 12 Base: Arrival Time: 6:25am ET +10m [UNATCO], Day 2 [Total Time: 6:06:14| Level Time: 45m]
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 7:10am ET, Day 2 [Total Time: 6:48:47| Level Time: 20m]
HK Helibase: Arrival Time: 7:30pm** HKT (7:30am ET) +12h* [Jock], Day 3*** [Total Time: 7:12:35|Level Time: 20m]
*Based off of dialogue, it took Jock, at most, 12 hours to get from Hong Kong to Liberty Island. Meaning he flew 670 miles per hour tops, as the distance between Liberty Island to Hong Kong is 8,042 mi.
**The logic in the timing is flawed; if JC left Liberty Island before sunrise, and took a 12 hour flight, he would arrive in Hong Kong in the morning. However this is contradicted by the level design, where the sky indicates night (though there is a hidden purple glow on horizon signifying either dusk or dawn) and a data cube found in Versalife's security room states that Denton was seen at Versalife's offices at 9:13pm (21:13). This means either the previous New York levels, or the Hong Kong levels took place mostly during daylight. JC could not have any downtime during his active 24 hour kill switch. For consistency reasons, Denton's arrival in Hong Kong will be considered as 7:30pm HKT. (Either the level designers fucked up, or I fucked up)
***Since there is supposed to be a time change, I am calling this Day 3.
Hong Kong: Arrival Time: 7:50pm HKT (7:50am ET), Day 3 [Total Time: 7:29:11 |Level Time: 2h 30m]
Hell's Kitchen: Arrival Time: 10:20pm ET (10:20am HKT) +12h [jock], Day 3 [Total Time: 10:02:17|Level Time: 35m]
Brooklyn Naval Base: Arrival Time: 11:00pm ET +5m [jock], Day 3 [Total Time: 10:36:47|Level Time: 1h 30m]
Lower East Side Cemetery: Arrival Time 12:05am ET +5m [jock], Day 4 [Total Time: 12:03:24| Level Time: 10m]
Denfert-Rochereau: Arrival Time: 7:15pm GMT+2 (3:15pm ET) +15h [jock]*, Day 4 [Total Time: 12:11:44| Level Time: 25m]
*While I'm not certain how fast Jock was going to get to Paris, since it is a shorter distance than Hong Kong, and Jock doesn't have to rush since JC does not have a kill switch, a 15 hour trip from New York to Paris would mean Jock flew around 241 mph. Landing in Paris just after sundown. The Distance between Brooklyn and Paris is 3,624 mi.
Catacombs: Arrival Time: 7:40pm GMT+2 (3:40pm ET), Day 4 [Total Time: 12:37:56 | Level Time: 30m]
Paris: Arrival Time: 8:10pm GMT+2 (4:10pm ET), Day 4 [Total Time: 13:07:48| Level Time: 1h 5m]
Paris Chateau: Arrival Time: 9:20pm GMT+2 (5:20pm ET) +5m [jock], Day 4 [Total Time: 14:05:59| Level Time: 20m]
Cathedral: Arrival Time: 9:40pm GMT+2 (5:40pm ET), Day 4 [Total Time: 14:24:29| Level Time: 50m]
Everett's Estate: Arrival Time: 10:40pm GMT+2 (6:40pm ET) +10m [toby atanwe], Day 4 [Total Time: 15:15:01| Level Time: 15m]
Vandenberg: Arrival Time: 5:55pm PDT (8:55pm ET) +26h [jock]*, Day 5 [Total Time: 15:30:13| Level Time: 40m]
*The sky in the background of Vandenberg shows that the level takes place during "astronomical twilight" which happens just before night. Which in November takes place roughly around 5:50pm - 6:20pm in California. The Distance between Paris and Vandenberg is around 5,678 mi. My prediction is JC landed at 5:55pm Pacific Time and if Jock got there in two hours he would have flown 2839 miles per hour which I greatly don't believe he could do. So the most logical conclusion is Jock traveled at around 218 mph with the time of 26 hours.
Gas Station: Arrival Time: 6:55pm PDT (9:55pm ET) +20m [jock]*, Day 5 [Total Time: 16:11:32| Level Time: 10m]
Sub Base: Arrival Time: 7:25pm PDT (10:25pm ET) +20m [jock]*, Day 5 [Total Time: 16:22:30| Level Time: 25m]
*According to the Deus Ex wiki, the abandoned gas station is somewhere between the Vandenberg Air force base, and Los Angeles. The distance between Vandenberg and L.A is 158 mi. For the sake of simplicity I am going assume the gas station is right down the middle at 79 mi. The Submarine base is located in a sunken Pasadena, which is around the same distance away from Vandenberg as Los Angeles. If Jock traveled 79 mi at a speed of 237 mph he would reach his destination in 20 minutes.
Ocean Lab: Arrival Time: 8:00pm PDT (11:00pm ET) +10m [mini sub], Day 5 [Total Time: 16:44:24| Level Time: 35m]
Sub Base: Arrival Time: 8:45pm PDT (11:45pm ET) +10m [mini sub], Day 5 [Total Time: 17:18:00| Level Time: 2m]
Missile Silo: Arrival Time: 8:55pm* PDT (11:45pm ET) +5m [jock], Day 5 [Total Time: 17:20:44| Level Time 25m]
*Arrival time is rounded up for consistency.
Area 51: Arrival Time: 10:10pm PDT (1:10pm ET) +1h 15m [jock]*, Day 6 [Total Time: 17:46:54| Level Time 25m]
*The distance between Pasadena and Area 51, or rather "Homey Airport", is 347 mi. A one hour and fifteen minute trip of a distance of 347 mi would mean Jock went 277 mph.
Area 51 Interior: Arrival Time: 10:35pm PDT (1:35pm ET), Day 6 [Total Time: 18:10:44| Level Time 1h 25m]
Ending(Helios): Ending Time: 12:00pm PDT (3:00pm ET), Day 6 [Total Time: 19:36:31]
And on the seventh day, and twenty years, he rested.
Again please let me know of anything that could be corrected. I appreciate it.
---Rules---
1. The game must be played legitimately. No speedrunning, no glitch running, no skipping conversations, read as many newspapers, books, emails, etc as you can find. Missing any on accident is excusable however, as well as missing areas if you have a lack of resources to enter said area. Finish all goals and explore as much of the levels as possible.
2. Do not artificially inflate the time. While patience is needed for gameplay reasons, as well as exploring, do not sit and run the clock or waste time when it can be avoided.
3. Locations within hubs do not count. Things like bars, the smugglers den, and other locations within a level do not count to the time list as they can be entered and exited at any time during any playthrough and are largely irrelevant to the being within the hub.
Separate "mission" areas, like the ocean lab, do count however.
4. Minutes are rounded by fives. Too keep timing simple and more general, the minutes will be rounded by five and seconds will be discarded, as any playtrough can vary on length.
5. Previous hub areas that can be reached cannot be re entered. Areas like Battery Park to Hell's Kitchen, or Denfert-Rochereau to The Catacombs can be re entered in game, however to keep the time from being inflated (see rule 2) once a hub area is "finished" move on to the next one, as backtracking should be pointless.
---Notes---
1. I am playing on the mod GMDX and not vanilla. While it doesn't change the core gameplay too much beyond a few new tweaks in mechanics, some levels were given a few smaller areas to explore. This may or may not change how the timing could be worked, making some levels slightly longer to finish, but I mostly doubt this.
2. Also considering how well I know the game, from playing it over and over, my knowledge and skill is a lot better than most which can reduce the time it takes to for me to complete a level compared to most players, but my playtime is generally the same for every playthrough.
3. The way the "Days" are tracked is by Eastern Time.
4. This timeline is made assuming there is currently no daylight savings since the nights are longer. More specifically, I'm using the month of November as a base when the sunsets and rises.
5. I apologize in advance for any mistakes or errors I have made, I am not great at math, so please keep in mind I will have a few errors in the list. Also a lot of things are made out of assumptions because the game never explicitly tells you how long things take to get where. Please feel free to correct any mistakes you notice.
---Format---
Level Arrival Time Current Level Time (Current New York Time) +extra time from travel, Current ingame day, [Total Game Time Played| Total Level Time Played]
The Arrival Time of a level is the length of the previous level + added time from travel, if you haven't guessed
Let's get started!
=====================================================================================================
Liberty Island: Arrival Time: 7:00pm ET, Day 1 [Level Time: 1h 10m]
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 8:10pm ET, Day 1 [Total Time: 01:08:55 |Level Time: 30m]
Battery Park: Arrival Time: 8:45pm ET +5m [boat], Day 1 [Total Time: 01:30:24|Level Time: 30m]
Hell's Kitchen: Arrival Time: 9:30pm ET +15m [subway], Day 1 [Total Time:2:00:05|Level Time: 1h 30m]
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 11:05pm ET +5m [jock], Day 1 [Total Time: 3:28:19|Level Time: 15m]
Battery Park: Arrival Time: 11:20pm** ET +2m [jock]**, Day 1 [Total Time: 3:44:54|Level Time 5m]
Brooklyn Bridge: Arrival Time: 11:45pm ET +20m* [sewer], Day 1 [Total Time:3:52:16|Level Time 20m]
LaGaurdia Airport: Arrival Time: 3:05am ET +3h* [sewer], Day 2 [Total Time:4:12:22|Level Time: 50m]
*While the level design appears otherwise, LaGaurdia Airport in real life is a solid 3 hours away from The Brooklyn Bridge from walking distance. There is no way JC could have gotten to LaGaurdia so soon on foot, this suggests he would have been wandering the sewers for a few hours contrary to the level transition. This logic also applies to the transition between Battery Park and the Brooklyn Bridge, but at a much shorter distance.
**Arrival time is rounded down for consistency.
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 5:00am ET +5m [jock], Day 2 [Total Time: 5:00:38|Level Time: 10m]
Hell's Kitchen: Arrival Time: 5:15am ET +5m [jock], Day 2 [Total Time: 5:12:56|Level Time: 55m]
Majestic 12 Base: Arrival Time: 6:25am ET +10m [UNATCO], Day 2 [Total Time: 6:06:14| Level Time: 45m]
UNATCO: Arrival Time: 7:10am ET, Day 2 [Total Time: 6:48:47| Level Time: 20m]
HK Helibase: Arrival Time: 7:30pm** HKT (7:30am ET) +12h* [Jock], Day 3*** [Total Time: 7:12:35|Level Time: 20m]
*Based off of dialogue, it took Jock, at most, 12 hours to get from Hong Kong to Liberty Island. Meaning he flew 670 miles per hour tops, as the distance between Liberty Island to Hong Kong is 8,042 mi.
**The logic in the timing is flawed; if JC left Liberty Island before sunrise, and took a 12 hour flight, he would arrive in Hong Kong in the morning. However this is contradicted by the level design, where the sky indicates night (though there is a hidden purple glow on horizon signifying either dusk or dawn) and a data cube found in Versalife's security room states that Denton was seen at Versalife's offices at 9:13pm (21:13). This means either the previous New York levels, or the Hong Kong levels took place mostly during daylight. JC could not have any downtime during his active 24 hour kill switch. For consistency reasons, Denton's arrival in Hong Kong will be considered as 7:30pm HKT. (Either the level designers fucked up, or I fucked up)
***Since there is supposed to be a time change, I am calling this Day 3.
Hong Kong: Arrival Time: 7:50pm HKT (7:50am ET), Day 3 [Total Time: 7:29:11 |Level Time: 2h 30m]
Hell's Kitchen: Arrival Time: 10:20pm ET (10:20am HKT) +12h [jock], Day 3 [Total Time: 10:02:17|Level Time: 35m]
Brooklyn Naval Base: Arrival Time: 11:00pm ET +5m [jock], Day 3 [Total Time: 10:36:47|Level Time: 1h 30m]
Lower East Side Cemetery: Arrival Time 12:05am ET +5m [jock], Day 4 [Total Time: 12:03:24| Level Time: 10m]
Denfert-Rochereau: Arrival Time: 7:15pm GMT+2 (3:15pm ET) +15h [jock]*, Day 4 [Total Time: 12:11:44| Level Time: 25m]
*While I'm not certain how fast Jock was going to get to Paris, since it is a shorter distance than Hong Kong, and Jock doesn't have to rush since JC does not have a kill switch, a 15 hour trip from New York to Paris would mean Jock flew around 241 mph. Landing in Paris just after sundown. The Distance between Brooklyn and Paris is 3,624 mi.
Catacombs: Arrival Time: 7:40pm GMT+2 (3:40pm ET), Day 4 [Total Time: 12:37:56 | Level Time: 30m]
Paris: Arrival Time: 8:10pm GMT+2 (4:10pm ET), Day 4 [Total Time: 13:07:48| Level Time: 1h 5m]
Paris Chateau: Arrival Time: 9:20pm GMT+2 (5:20pm ET) +5m [jock], Day 4 [Total Time: 14:05:59| Level Time: 20m]
Cathedral: Arrival Time: 9:40pm GMT+2 (5:40pm ET), Day 4 [Total Time: 14:24:29| Level Time: 50m]
Everett's Estate: Arrival Time: 10:40pm GMT+2 (6:40pm ET) +10m [toby atanwe], Day 4 [Total Time: 15:15:01| Level Time: 15m]
Vandenberg: Arrival Time: 5:55pm PDT (8:55pm ET) +26h [jock]*, Day 5 [Total Time: 15:30:13| Level Time: 40m]
*The sky in the background of Vandenberg shows that the level takes place during "astronomical twilight" which happens just before night. Which in November takes place roughly around 5:50pm - 6:20pm in California. The Distance between Paris and Vandenberg is around 5,678 mi. My prediction is JC landed at 5:55pm Pacific Time and if Jock got there in two hours he would have flown 2839 miles per hour which I greatly don't believe he could do. So the most logical conclusion is Jock traveled at around 218 mph with the time of 26 hours.
Gas Station: Arrival Time: 6:55pm PDT (9:55pm ET) +20m [jock]*, Day 5 [Total Time: 16:11:32| Level Time: 10m]
Sub Base: Arrival Time: 7:25pm PDT (10:25pm ET) +20m [jock]*, Day 5 [Total Time: 16:22:30| Level Time: 25m]
*According to the Deus Ex wiki, the abandoned gas station is somewhere between the Vandenberg Air force base, and Los Angeles. The distance between Vandenberg and L.A is 158 mi. For the sake of simplicity I am going assume the gas station is right down the middle at 79 mi. The Submarine base is located in a sunken Pasadena, which is around the same distance away from Vandenberg as Los Angeles. If Jock traveled 79 mi at a speed of 237 mph he would reach his destination in 20 minutes.
Ocean Lab: Arrival Time: 8:00pm PDT (11:00pm ET) +10m [mini sub], Day 5 [Total Time: 16:44:24| Level Time: 35m]
Sub Base: Arrival Time: 8:45pm PDT (11:45pm ET) +10m [mini sub], Day 5 [Total Time: 17:18:00| Level Time: 2m]
Missile Silo: Arrival Time: 8:55pm* PDT (11:45pm ET) +5m [jock], Day 5 [Total Time: 17:20:44| Level Time 25m]
*Arrival time is rounded up for consistency.
Area 51: Arrival Time: 10:10pm PDT (1:10pm ET) +1h 15m [jock]*, Day 6 [Total Time: 17:46:54| Level Time 25m]
*The distance between Pasadena and Area 51, or rather "Homey Airport", is 347 mi. A one hour and fifteen minute trip of a distance of 347 mi would mean Jock went 277 mph.
Area 51 Interior: Arrival Time: 10:35pm PDT (1:35pm ET), Day 6 [Total Time: 18:10:44| Level Time 1h 25m]
Ending(Helios): Ending Time: 12:00pm PDT (3:00pm ET), Day 6 [Total Time: 19:36:31]
And on the seventh day, and twenty years, he rested.
Again please let me know of anything that could be corrected. I appreciate it.
