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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 0:21:48 GMT -5
And I got to thinking.. Why is it that the right wingers of the world hate the "freaks and weirdos" (easy blanket statement) of the world?
Just to clarify a few things first: 1) I know DN isn't a republican, in fact he'd probably knife me for suggesting so, but his post seems to be a sentiment shared by most right-wingers and 2) I definitely don't mean freaks & weirdos in a derogatory way, in fact I probably would classify as one even if just by a bit, I'm just using it to describe people of a minority or "other" type of persuasion - everything from transgender people, to extreme goths and metalheads, to weeaboos, to freaks, nerds, dorks, weirdos.. Everyone who isn't a "square chinned, clean-shaven, clean-cut, bright, upstanding proud American alpha male".
So what gives? Is the argument being made that perhaps these various so-called weird subsets of people encourage nasty, unhealthy or otherwise dangerous/risky behaviors? Firstly I would dispute that but secondly, even if that IS the case in some kind of way, why is that anyone's business, why does it matter? The way I see it, if someone isn't harming other people, harming animals, or engaging in pedophilic behavior, I see absolutely no reason to inherently dislike these kinds of people. Now, don't get me wrong, if you see or otherwise know that someone is up to some fucked up shit, shame them and hate them or whatever as much as you like. Surely it should be obvious that those kinds of people are the "1%-or-less" minority of, oh say, anything from anime fans, to trans people, to big fat neckbeard fucks.. the same way they're the tiny minority among Trump voters, or Sargon fans, or fans of that retard Paul Joseph Watson, or whoever the fuck else.
IN FACT, I'd say that pedophilia is EASILY more prevalent among the heavily right-wing-pushing Church, not just in America, but everywhere! Not just the catholic priests, oh no, all of the pushers (not practicers, mind) of these fucking Abrahamic religions like to fuck kids! There's literally no argument to be made against the case, the Catholic church is nothing more than a money-infested fucking pedophilia coverup ring. Ignorant fucking dupes follow this shit because they're afraid of dying, so they don't bother to do any goddamn research on policy or science and just vote for the cunt that says "I'm with God!" more than the other one, all because of fear or ignorance. That is by fucking far more contemptible than someone who cums on a goddamn pillow.
None of that bullshit though - the pillow fucking, the fear of death, the ignorance - is really grounds for hate though. I mean, is it? Fuck hatred, I ain't got time for that bullshit, life sucks enough and I want to be happy you goddamn fucking cunts!
So, I want to ask, with no (real) vitriol towards any of you here: What gives?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 9:23:09 GMT -5
I think people should do what they want in regards to preference of sub-culture. I was a metal head growing up, I liked punk rock. I used to get a lot of shit for it too. I've always disliked the religious aspect of the Republican party.
I also like science, and technology. I was pretty turned off by the push on the right to go against automations, to save the dwindling factory jobs. Fuck that. we need to have automations in the future. We're not going to hobble ourselves to save some stupid piece of shit jobs that nobody with a college education wants. My stances have changed on a lot of things regarding the organization of society, and how we should plan on the future.
We should be focusing on robotics, to transform our society. Perhaps even the elimination of selling our labor. Our society governed by a technocracy of specialized algorithms that assigns, and distributes the most efficient use of resources, free of corruption.
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Post by dn on May 21, 2019 10:05:14 GMT -5
The argument I made (and the tongue is half in cheek) was deliberately invoking right-wing rhetoric - it's difficult to call down an actual exterminatus upon a branch of humanity from any other political standpoint. I guess the other way to satirize it (from the position of the left) would be to reverse-ferret a white genocide argument, but telling a bunch of furries that I'm going to rape them and their children out of existence is only going to make them yiff harder.
As for the republican / democrat thing, remember: outside of America this two party shit is less relevant. It's a yank-centric argument, one that can only be applied loosely to the rest of the world. The sane Scotsman looks at whoever the chucklefucks in the USA have voted in for this particular season and then counts the number of fucking asinine wars that have resulted. Orange man has, thus far, a better record in this department that any of the previous presidential efforts, so why the fuck would I care if he builds a shit-tier fence whose only tangible effect will be to mildly inconvenience a bunch of dubious border-hopping Mexicans?
Moving on to hate: very few things will motivate me towards actual hate, but hypocrisy has always been one of them. Attacking freedom of speech is another, replacing science with feelings and quasi-religious ideology yet another. All of these sins the modern left perpetrate ad infinitum.
The reason to fucking detest these thrice-jizzed, soyboy cumbuckets is because of their treachery. You look into the past of these neo-left shitstains and - without exception - that haunted closet is filled with fucking skeletons. I keep seeing ex-SA goons with a posting history that would shit up anyone's day, everyone knows it, no one speaks of it. The fucking demagogues of this Brave New World don't even keep to a code of Omerta, because that would involve honour: what we have instead is a fucking Bullingdon Club / Skull and Bones situation. You will do what we say or we release the pictures of you fucking that pig's head on initiation. Do as we say or we release your IRC logs. We know where the bodies are buried; we know your Something Awful user name.
Every time one of these fuckers falls it is not because of external pressure, but because of a coup d'etat from inside their own fucking ranks. Every. Single. Time. Because that is the only weapon they know how to deploy, it's the only effective weapon they have. That's the way this Game of Cucks works, they first betrayed their beliefs (fuck freedom of speech on the internet), they then betrayed their communities (fuck the people you came up with), they then betrayed and backstabbed their friends (and replaced them with "allies." Think about that word and its implications for a second) and now these delusional pink Hitlers have hijacked everything I gave a fuck about and fought for.
I've been booted out of everything, from DW to The Offical Left, I've watched these idiot children spray shit all over the conjugal sheets in exchange for asspats and twitter blowjobs. I am betrayed by the things and the people I used to believe in, and the price for that betrayal was abysmally low.
I used to think that Dante was being a bit harsh when he reserved the lowest level of hell for traitors, turncoats and mutineers. But now I think he was spot on and these pricks deserve to end up in the same mouth as Judas.
There is more to talk about. Let the conversation commence.
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Post by deathevokation on May 21, 2019 10:07:52 GMT -5
Fucking pillows is definitely grounds for the gulag, lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 11:19:05 GMT -5
Kontra - I really respect your appreciation for science and moving towards a more advanced future. I wish more people felt the same way. DN - So, what is the end game for the 'censorship movement' so to speak? I'm definitely not singling out Doomworld or something here, to be clear - in fact I'd say the censorship wave is even worse on other, more popular, more influential and more inherently political platforms, where being able to vocally hold any opinion without censorship (not without recourse mind, just without censorship!) is extremely important. Twitter and YouTube and whatnot are the new corner for any loon to preach on as it were and it sucks to see certain ideas silenced, even ideas I despise because if they aren't out in the open, they can't be dismantled or criticized.. Sunlight is the best cure. Since 99% of the "social media influencers" and whatnot have skeletons in their closet, how in the name of fuck is criminalizing speech a good idea for these loons? Surely the most likely - and most common - outcome of this is that it fucks them in the ass. Why would you vouch for something that could be weaponized against you in a sinch? Ignorance? Brownie points with people they want to impress? Wtf? The government just loves people begging to have their rights taken away btw, I'm not sure if most of them realize it. Censorship advocates will be none too happy when they find themselves in the position of holding an unpopular idea.. Whoops! Shouldn't have begged to have my right to hold and vocalize controversial opinions taken away, oh well!
And look, I'm not a free speech absolutist - If someone is out there advocating the torture of little kids or something, they don't need to be out there voicing their opinion.. Still though, unless other people heard that and actually WANTED it or liked it, what good does it do to censor them? Surely pointing and laughing is still the better option..
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Post by thundercunt on May 21, 2019 11:39:36 GMT -5
linking pedophilia with the catholic church's political instance is complete nonsense
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Post by dn on May 21, 2019 12:13:44 GMT -5
DN - So, what is the end game for the 'censorship movement' so to speak? I'd probably differentiate between the motives of the people who form the body of the movement and those of the demagogues who lead it (or who think they do; as previously mentioned, it's a shit hydra at this point). Think of it in terms of laymen and clergy: the motivations are entirely different. I'd go further in my analogy and compare them to religious Puritians. Then I'd fuck the metaphor and compare them - psychologically - to militant vegans. Bear with me here. There is a school of thought that compares the psychology of vegans to those of anorexics: the difference is that anorexics are obsessed with the amount of food that they consume; vegans have the same psychological hangups, only their obsession is with the purity of the food that they put into their body. Viz the comparison; for these dumbasses, it's all about the purity of thought that is entering the body politic (and it is never ever pure *enough*, because herp derp psychological disorder). The analogy works because (a) the crossover between the puritans and the puritanical and (b) we can all agree that vegans are contemptible, preachy retards. For the mass, there is no end game. It's about satisfying a psychological craving for woke-points. It's a never-ending MMO for retards on twitter; the movement has been designed / slapped together with no victory condition. They put no more thought into what comes next than a heroin addict does past his next hit. As for the fucking ghouls who have installed themselves at the head of the cult, the end game is power (as all politics is). These dangerous fucks have watched the politicization of every single space they can slime their way into and wank themselves to sleep over the perceived grip they have over all they survey; the hypocrisy of their actions only comes to light when you realize that centrists / center-leftists are being kicked out of those spaces (because of escalating purity checks) and the only place they can go is to websites that play host to right-wing bullshit. It's a fucking pogrom of sanity, because your only choice now is to surround yourself with radical leftists or align with the radical right (because only the radical right has had the ideological balls to tell the politically correct to go stick their boy-pussi in an electoral socket). Surround yourself with radicals and you will end up being radicalized: the people at the head of this bullshit know this because it's fucking obvious, but they actively encourage it because they built their entire platform on fighting Imaginary Nazis whilst simultaneously engaging in practices that create Actual Nazis. It's like building a fucking bomb under the mistaken impression that, come the next election cycle, only you will be able to defuse it. Fuck Puritans.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 12:23:04 GMT -5
Hmm, I want to ask dn. So we have hypocrisy/treachery, but is there also such a thing as a genuine change of heart and can these two be distinguished? Or do peoples' pasts that they are embarrassed of actually invalidate whatever they are doing nowadays?
I'm asking because I feel like I'm changing quite a bit all the time, and sometimes it hurts when people judge me by something I did or said a while ago. Occasionally I almost want to say "that wasn't me!"
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Post by dn on May 21, 2019 12:32:53 GMT -5
Hmm, I want to ask dn. So we have hypocrisy/treachery, but is there also such a thing as a genuine change of heart and can these two be distinguished? Or do peoples' pasts that they are embarrassed of actually invalidate whatever they are doing nowadays? Peoples' actions in the past informs their actions in the present. Acknowledgement of that past is important, even when it's pure cringe. You can't have a redemption arc if you are using DMCA takedowns to delete all the shit you are meant to be redeeming yourself for. What drives me fucking bullshit is when people use censorship to *hide* their past. A few examples from the community should be immediately apparent. I hate freaks and weirdos cause they're responsible for why the world is so shit. Go shitpost somewhere else you fucking monument to pointless faggotry.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 12:47:33 GMT -5
Okay, that's a very good point about hiding the past. Reminds me of how glen dug up that Doomworld thread full of people using racial slurs and then it just silently disappeared.
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Post by GRUG on May 21, 2019 14:24:54 GMT -5
Why is it that the right wingers of the world hate the "freaks and weirdos" (easy blanket statement) of the world? Because they believe it's not right to glorify or promote degenerate behavior/lifestyles. Plainly put, it's not conducive to a stable society. The 'right wing' is a very broad label, because many of these people don't fall under the promotion of 'anti-degeneracy' crowd. To narrow things down, let's go with the 'traditionalists/nationalists' because this is the target demographic of the 'right wing' you are probably referring to. Ironically many of these type of people are also non-religious (I would say somewhere between 30-40% aren't religious), but they seek to conserve traditional religion, because they believe it is an important pillar of their societies. In their views, the promotion of LGBT behavior, feminism, egalitarianism, Marxism, Nihilism, are recipes for societal collapse. I can discuss more about this, but it's probably going to be like paragraphs and paragraphs of text... which I don't have the patience to type. Short text: The Western societies are breaking down socially. IN FACT, I'd say that pedophilia is EASILY more prevalent among the heavily right-wing-pushing Church, not just in America, but everywhere! Not just the catholic priests, oh no, all of the pushers (not practicers, mind) of these fucking Abrahamic religions like to fuck kids! There's literally no argument to be made against the case, the Catholic church is nothing more than a money-infested fucking pedophilia coverup ring. Ignorant fucking dupes follow this shit because they're afraid of dying, so they don't bother to do any goddamn research on policy or science and just vote for the cunt that says "I'm with God!" more than the other one, all because of fear or ignorance. That is by fucking far more contemptible than someone who cums on a goddamn pillow. I'm Catholic, I will say that the church has been in a state of turmoil for decades due to the pedophilia scandals. Not many people know this but back when the church was first established, priests were allowed to get married. Even some Popes married and had children. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexually_active_popes The Eastern Orthodox church does not have this problem to the same magnitude of the Catholic church (at least I think that is). Some of their priests are allowed to marry (Orthodox priests consist of both married clergymen and celibate clergymen), unlike the Catholic priests. My theory is that pedophiles are attracted to joining the Catholic church in efforts to absolve their sins, but due to human nature they give into their sick desires. I think people should do what they want in regards to preference of sub-culture. I used to think this way back in my Libertarian phase. I also like science, and technology. I was pretty turned off by the push on the right to go against automations, to save the dwindling factory jobs. Fuck that. we need to have automations in the future. We're not going to hobble ourselves to save some stupid piece of shit jobs that nobody with a college education wants. My stances have changed on a lot of things regarding the organization of society, and how we should plan on the future. We should be focusing on robotics, to transform our society. Perhaps even the elimination of selling our labor. Our society governed by a technocracy of specialized algorithms that assigns, and distributes the most efficient use of resources, free of corruption. Honest question: What are we going to do with the low-IQ citizens who are not college material or skilled in STEM or corporate/office-tier jobs? You're going to have a huge problem here when they are considered obsolete. Even automation risks taking over part time jobs teenagers or college students would do.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 0:33:14 GMT -5
thundercunt - instead of just shouting the conclusion you’ve come to and then walking away like a retard, why don’t you substantiate your point?
DN - “it’s like building a fucking bomb under the mistaken impression that, come the next election cycle, only you will be able to defuse it. Fuck Puritans.”
So, for the masses who gobble it up, it’s like getting their “fix” of woke-points because patting themselves on the back feels good and for those at the helm it’s like a dipshit-spin on an otherwise traditional political powerplay? It’s just so obviously flawed as a plan for policial power though - they may as well draw a big fat red circle over their proverbial Achilles heel. When the purity test gets strict enough, no one passes it. I think the way you likened it to an MMO with no real ending is spot on, but holy fuck not being forward-thinking is just so blatantly stupid. Life is not an MMO.
Dr Genesis - Stop being insecure my man. You literally changed your profile pic from Sonic the fucking minute DN pointed out the irrefutable fact that most Sonic fans are literally on the lowest rung of the degenerate scum ladder. One of the whole underlying points of my original post is that you should give a giant middle finger to people who fuck on you for what you like and who you are. Don’t capitulate (unless you have a genuine change of heart), fucking own it and take it in stride.
GRUG - I think you’ve made some decent arguments here, but now we have to start dividing up the conversation. I see the risks of embracing “full scale Marxism”, but where does that converge with LBGT or otherwise “deviant” behaviour? How is the concept of two otherwise responsible consenting adults fucking eachother in the pooper going to result in the fall of society? I genuinely can’t help but laugh at that idea. I just picture a gay president getting railed and accidentally leaning on the “Launch the nukes” button in the process or something. It seems silly to lump “getting freaky” and “being a Marxist” together in the basket of potential causes for the collapse of society. Someone’s going to have to make a very, very compelling argument to buy into that - when it comes to social issues I strongly support freedom and autonomy for people to do what they please, barring rape and murder and whatnot obviously. When I think of taking those rights away, I picture armies of identical automoton drones with no joy in their lives. I picture fucking North Korea.
On the subject of job automation, it is coming regardless of whether we embrace it or fear it. That genie is never going back in the bottle. That’s why I give some props to Yang for at least trying to think of some solution, even just a stopgap solution like a UBI. Regardless if you agree with him, at least he’s made an attempt to think this out rather than just cowering in fear or conversely thinking of it as a solution to literally everything (it’s not).
Preparation is the best cure. If we stop advancing “because jobs” we will DEFINITELY fuck ourselves long term and in a variety of ways. We need to learn a way to properly integrate automation and advancement into our political and societal structure for a chance at survival as a species, imo.
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Post by nxGangrel on May 22, 2019 0:38:23 GMT -5
thundercunt - instead of just shouting the conclusion you’ve come to and then walking away like a retard, why don’t you substantiate your point? DN - “it’s like building a fucking bomb under the mistaken impression that, come the next election cycle, only you will be able to defuse it. Fuck Puritans.” So, for the masses who gobble it up, it’s like getting their “fix” of woke-points because patting themselves on the back feels good at for those at the helm it’s like a dipshit-spin on an otherwise traditional political powerplay? It’s just so obviously flawed as a plan for policial power though - they may as well draw a big fat red circle over their proverbial Achilles heel. When the purity test gets strict enough, no one passes it. I think the way you likened it to an MMO with no real ending is spot on, but holy fuck not being forward-thinking is just so blatantly stupid. Life is not an MMO. Dr Genesis - Stop being insecure my man. You literally changed your profile pic from Sonic the fucking minute DN pointed out the irrefutable fact that most Sonic fans are literally on the lowest rung of the degenerate scum ladder. One of the whole underlying points of my original post is that you should give a giant middle finger to people who fuck on you for what you like and who you are. Don’t capitulate (unless you have a genuine change of heart), fucking own it and take it in stride. You three got owned
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Post by dn on May 22, 2019 9:01:10 GMT -5
DN - “it’s like building a fucking bomb under the mistaken impression that, come the next election cycle, only you will be able to defuse it. Fuck Puritans.” So, for the masses who gobble it up, it’s like getting their “fix” of woke-points because patting themselves on the back feels good at for those at the helm it’s like a dipshit-spin on an otherwise traditional political powerplay? It’s just so obviously flawed as a plan for policial power though - they may as well draw a big fat red circle over their proverbial Achilles heel. When the purity test gets strict enough, no one passes it. I think the way you likened it to an MMO with no real ending is spot on, but holy fuck not being forward-thinking is just so blatantly stupid. Life is not an MMO. You three got owned I suggest you work on your reading comprehension. Because one-sentence replies only work if you actually understand the post you are replying to.
Reminds me, tho, I want to amend my thesis with the following: Twitter has trained retards to only respond to soundbites and short sentences. If an idea is too complex to be condensed into 37 characters and seven clapping emojis then the semi-sentient piles of wasted hair and skin that use that platform are simply unable to process it.
Simple politics for simple people.
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Post by deathevokation on May 22, 2019 9:13:27 GMT -5
It's why when my twitter got permanently suspended unless I delete a slur against someone for lewding a loli i chose to not delete and just leave my account in a permanent limbo between life and death.. twitter politics is being able to fit the snarkiest most passive aggressive and uncharitable character interpretation you can within the character limit. It's a stupid platform where catch phrases and slogans and trolling are the only possible discourse you can have with people you disagree with.
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Post by nxGangrel on May 22, 2019 15:10:30 GMT -5
I suggest you work on your reading comprehension. Because one-sentence replies only work if you actually understand the post you are replying to It was a joke. Personally, I don't care. I'm not going to get in a political argument which wastes my time. I saw something I found funny. Not everything has to be this intellectual political statement. Loosen up a bit, fuck
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 18:43:36 GMT -5
And I got to thinking.. Why is it that the right wingers most of the population of the world hate the "freaks and weirdos" (easy blanket statement) of the world? FTFY. Seriously, humanity as a whole is naturally xenophobic, despite what feel-good SJW websites would have you believe. Even a cursory look at history proves me right. I'm not saying it's wrong or right, just that it's part of our core being.
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Post by deathevokation on May 23, 2019 4:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 11:15:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 12:21:14 GMT -5
oh my fucking god WHY
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Post by thundercunt on May 23, 2019 12:23:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 21:46:34 GMT -5
HELL YEAH PREACH IT 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@bob Page - You gotta admit though, there’s a stronger relationship between the so-called deviants & generally leftist thought, and conversely a strong relationship between the “50’s were the pinnacle! Everyone was normal, everyone was the same!” type folks and right wing schools of thought. The divide is definitely there. Actually I think sexual deviants are just as common on both sides but right wingers are more religious on the whole and so they have a lot more of the guilt/embarrassment about that kind of stuff and try to hide it (to be fair, that kind of stuff IS personal and probably should be kept on the DL in some cases).
I know I’m generalising, it’s impossible to talk about groups that contain millions of people without doing so. I also think you’re basically right on the money with the xenophobia argument, it is extremely pervasive in general, it’s just that depending on what groups you “ally” with determines what direction their xenophobia will be directed. I see a ton of leftists saying really hateful, really racist, really sexist shit on Twatter so rest assured I know “my side” (puke) is also guilty of that shit.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 7:35:31 GMT -5
Taken from the drunken ramblings thread about morality on DW.
You deserve the gulag too.
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Post by deathevokation on May 25, 2019 8:00:00 GMT -5
Taken from the drunken ramblings thread about morality on DW.
You deserve the gulag too. Yikes... well it's not like I liked Doomkid, anyway..
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 8:45:15 GMT -5
Must be Australia that's done that to the Kid... that shit is very popular here. All these years of cunts ordering Ham and Pineapple or "Hawaiian" and I had to sit there and pick every piece of pineapple off of it as we only had about half a dozen types of pizzas for years. These days I order different stuff, but if I get stuck with Hawaiian I couldn't be arsed picking them off anymore, I'll just eat it. But I definitely won't like it, no sir.
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