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Post by Justince on Jul 9, 2018 12:40:48 GMT -5
The left used to be about the rights of workers. wtf happened? Those workers had stupid kids, and since they were at work busting their ass all day to hold it together, the internet raised those kids into what are now millennials and their version of the Left is screaming at strangers over twitter because they didn't use the right pronouns or bought a taco from a white person in a food truck.
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Post by Olroda on Jul 9, 2018 13:01:05 GMT -5
...or because the current neo-vagina is actually constructed from re-purposed intestinal tissue and literally leaks ass juice 24 hours a day, so good luck eating that. Wow, really? I didn't know this. The ones I've read about have vaginal walls which are constructed from the inverted penis shaft itself, and the clit is made from the dick head. Both cases sounds like deeply unethical procedures from a medical point of view.
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Post by Justince on Jul 9, 2018 13:18:59 GMT -5
Wow, really? I didn't know this. The ones I've read about have vaginal walls which are constructed from the inverted penis shaft itself, and the clit is made from the dick head. Both cases sounds like deeply unethical procedures from a medical point of view. Hah shit, of course. But highly profitable from a capitalist point of view. Imagine an entire new subset of the population invariably tied to the great medical industrial complex for the rest of their lives. Injections, treatments, hormones, and major surgeries. They've made slaves of these people by turning disfigurement into empowerment, self-loathing into self-actualization. There's trans modeling company, trans clothing outfitters, and of course trans-centric literature being on the grade school curriculum in several states. In just an incredibly short span of time we've gone to who uses what bathroom to a movement directly tied into big business and commerce. Just what is the end goal of all this? Do they align with feminists to abolish all gender? Do they ultimately want to transcend human biology and turn both sexes into amorphous joyless automatons? It will be an interesting couple of decades, regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 14:13:58 GMT -5
The left used to be about the rights of workers. wtf happened? Those workers had stupid kids, and since they were at work busting their ass all day to hold it together, the internet raised those kids into what are now millennials and their version of the Left is screaming at strangers over twitter because they didn't use the right pronouns or bought a taco from a white person in a food truck. That sounds about right
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 14:22:43 GMT -5
Ultra-liberals like to play with words, arguing that "gender" is subjective. But what it means to be part of the female sex is to have two X-chromosomes. Despite any kind of surgery, or hormone injections, or superficial alterations. To be a member of the female sex comes down to XX. People are free to pursue the life that they want, and should be guaranteed human rights. But they can't force others to deny the biological reality of what it means to be female. I'm sure these same people would be up-in-arms if you were to deny climate science, but they're being anti-scientific in this regard. Complete hypocrisy.
This isn't coming from a place of hate, or phobia. This is what medical science is saying, and it is the reality of life. There's no social justice argument that can refute that.
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Post by Justince on Jul 10, 2018 14:34:12 GMT -5
That's just the beginning my friend. I know this article is a year old but it plays into the ever-shifting position of a group that's poised to overtake the movement just to get what they want: www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/03/transgender-activist-straight-men-should-work-through-non-attraction-to-transgender-womenYeah, from the same group of people that endlessly insisted that gay people don't choose to be gay, and trans-people didn't choose to be trans (positions that I mostly agree with, at least when it comes down to sexual attraction), I now present you with this lovely piece. So all us straight guys? We need to just get over the fact that some women have penises now and accept it as part of the female body. The audacity and lack of awareness of this message is un-fucking-real. I jumped on this Jone's person's twitter recently as it's just as insane as always. These people are not reasonable, they want to be the top victims of victimhood and they also want everyone to pretend they aren't bonkers beyond measure. It's the 'I want my cake' mentality gone completely overboard and unchecked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 23:14:36 GMT -5
Rofl @ the idea that people can choose what gets them aroused. Double rofl @ the hypocrisy. These same people go on about how it's bad to kink shame then decry a big chunk of the human population solely based on what they're attracted to. More stupid double-standard bullshit.
I personally don't like kink shaming, whatever floats your boat. Don't try and force people to be attracted to things they aren't, ffs.
@vordakk, sadly, there are very few 'pretty darn reasonable centre-left' channels out there. Secular Talk comes to mind, but my little shpeel was more about representation. I talk to loads of people at my job, a mix of left, right and everything in between, and even most of the sorta-left ones decry the acts of the Antifa fucks and extremist sjws in general. Maybe my anecdotal experience doesn't reflect common opinion.. But damn, all the people I meet face to face, be them left or right leaning, are so much less extreme than the hyped-up representations they get on these 'pwnage' youtube channels.
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Post by BattleKorbi on Jul 11, 2018 1:15:21 GMT -5
+1 like for the latest Doomkid post, solely on the quote: Rofl @ the idea that people can choose what gets them aroused. It's kinda the idea that people cannot really choose what they are attracted to, otherwise, all those gay peeps who are being hunted down in various parts of the globe could just clap their hands and be safe forever. (also another +1 like for the big previous Doomkid post) Also wanted to drop this pearl: Yall know both left and right have faced tons of hypocrisy. Why not, instead to trying to make the other side look like they are plagued with more hypocrisy, work on your own cases and solve those riddles already? I know this idea is going to get countered by some generic excuse, but, this thread has done nothing to convince me to "join" the "right" or whatever. Y'all both filled with hypocrisy. Also, the letters of the LGBT alphabet aren't as political as people pump em up to be. There are certain individuals who are either trying to secure their foothold or are trying to grab attention (mostly the other case) but to assume most of the LGBT peeps are left oriented, that's kinda, I dunno, I want to say funny, but I don't find anything chuckle-worthy about it. These days it's mostly not about the side, but about the intensity one is on the political spectrum of things: the further, the more dangerous. Once a certain threshold of intensity gets passed, factions get formed, and yall know the story already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 9:03:10 GMT -5
lol im left wing and i think these people are literally the stupidest apes to walk this earth...so no its not "the true colours of the left" at all 😒 Its just a group of idiots that nobody (not even the left) likes...the only people who likes them...are themselves . and even then that isnt completely true
so dont label this as the true colours of the left just because of a few dumbasses with way too much spare time please
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 9:22:53 GMT -5
lol im left wing and i think these people are literally the stupidest apes to walk this earth...so no its not "the true colours of the left" at all 😒 Its just a group of idiots that nobody (not even the left) likes...the only people who likes them... are themselves . and even then that isnt completely true so dont mix those people in with us and say thats how we are I think more working-class families would be more willing to vote for the economic-left wing parties, that support a strong middle class if they didn't feel spurned, alienated, or disturbed by aggressive groups like this. This is the result of victimology, creating these extremist positions.
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Post by dn on Jul 11, 2018 10:09:26 GMT -5
Because, as I've said, these fucks are parasites that are actually eliminating both moderates and moderate spaces. Marxism only works if there is an enemy, as a political theory it defines itself as much by what it fights against as what it is actually for. Proletariat v.s the bourgeois, it's right fucking there in the mission statement. And if there isn't wrongthink that has to be exterminated then they *ohshit* and declare something else to be the enemy of the people, because revolution simply doesn't work in the long-term and they'd rather fucking eat the left than slink into irrelevancy.
Doomkid wonders why people think of the left and immediately some triple-chromosomed dangerhair springs to mind; he wonders why finding sane leftist opinions on youtube is so difficult, you'd be forgiven for thinking such a thing doesn't exist. This is why. The people they tarred and feathered to justify their fucking mental ideological spaces have either fled or have actually become more right-wing.
>Call a man a Nazi, burn down his house. >Man isn't a Nazi, goes to /pol/ anyway because he is sick and tired of this shit. >omfg Jews did 9/11, man actually becomes a Nazi, self-fulfilling_prophecy.jpg
This is why this shit cannot stand. It's not the fact that these fucking extremists on the left are converting moderate lefties into dangerhairs - it's actually having the complete opposite effect, and the fucking demagogues of this movement know this and keep doing it anyway because without a steady stream of new "enemies of the people" they cease to have a reason for fucking existing.
This is why the left has to clean its own house and can no longer ignore the problem. Because this combination of identity politics and fucking Marxism has created a useless fucking hierarchy of tinpot dictators and - on the opposite side - a fucking scary mass of people who are slowly coming to the conclusion that the easiest way to solve the problem of the extreme left is to fucking gas them all and light the fucking ovens.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 11, 2018 11:53:55 GMT -5
Both cases sounds like deeply unethical procedures from a medical point of view. Hah shit, of course. But highly profitable from a capitalist point of view. Imagine an entire new subset of the population invariably tied to the great medical industrial complex for the rest of their lives. Injections, treatments, hormones, and major surgeries. They've made slaves of these people by turning disfigurement into empowerment, self-loathing into self-actualization. There's trans modeling company, trans clothing outfitters, and of course trans-centric literature being on the grade school curriculum in several states. In just an incredibly short span of time we've gone to who uses what bathroom to a movement directly tied into big business and commerce. Just what is the end goal of all this? Do they align with feminists to abolish all gender? Do they ultimately want to transcend human biology and turn both sexes into amorphous joyless automatons? It will be an interesting couple of decades, regardless. Holy fuck, I never thought of it that way.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 11, 2018 12:06:30 GMT -5
I can't wait for the future. I'm dying for my future kids to read about this stuff in the history books so they can look back and see all the retardation and just be a better person. And when I say "I can't wait for" and "I'm dying" I'm not laughing, I just want all this attention seeking bullshit to be over.
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Post by dn on Jul 11, 2018 13:02:57 GMT -5
I can't wait for the future either. I will take my son into the areas gentrified by hipsters in 2017 and I will show him what they bought with their coin. We will walk the rubbish-strewn streets of the forgotten ghettos and marvel at the faded fuck drumph graffiti: my child will ask who he was, and I will say nobody cares. Finally, amongst the neo-cardboard hovels - amidst the broken coffeeshops still advertising £7 coffee and the burnt-out communist bookstores atop them - we shall visit the Necropolis. We shall see those homeless, bearded women boiling kettles of horse piss in search of estrogen. We will see the Last Man in Sandals stoke the bin-fires with filthy rags and liberal tracts.
A cardboard cup - blackened by dirt, Patreon scrawled across the side - is thrust beneath our noses. My son looks to me and I shake my head; *that* is exactly how this cavalcade of infinite fuck started in the first place.
Hand upon his shoulder, we turn away from the sight. The filthy hobos screech misogyny, but there is no one left to hear.
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Post by GRUG on Jul 13, 2018 2:00:29 GMT -5
The left used to be about the rights of workers. wtf happened? The Democrat party of 60+ years ago used to be about the working class's economic interests. Now, because the demographics shifted significantly (thanks the 1965 immigration act), the "left's" values changed to the following below: - Cultural Marxism - Hard socialism - Open borders to import millions of legal/llegal immigrants from 3rd world countries - Promoting the most absolute generate garbage the world has ever seen - Pandering to the most annoying groups of people for their stupid demands The average American Blue Dog Democrat (now that's an old term that hasn't been used since Bubba Bill's era) is leaving this nuthouse because the DNC no longer represents him. He is fed up, and is either becoming Independent, Green, Libertarian, or Republican. We are undergoing a paradigm shift in which the dummies from the DNC and the useless neo-con Republicans just can't seem to comprehend. The Democrats will continue branding themselves as the infected anus of Cultural Marxism that only appeals to the aging hippy baby boomers, college millennials, and anyone who basically doesn't represent the traditional white America... in which the DNC is fighting tooth and nail against for the past few decades. Meanwhile, the Republicans are becoming the ones to win over the disenfranchised little by little... as seen in the Brexit states from the 2016 election ... Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan... these were all BLUE states for like 20+ years. Just look at how the DNC treats the few remaining "sane" democrats like Martin O'Malley or Jim Webb. I don't even know why Webb is still in the DNC.... Same thing with O'Malley, why hasn't he switched over to Grandma Jill's party? What is so appealing about being a cucky - white democrat only to get shit on by your fellow party members? At this point, if you are a moderate liberal who is tired of the crap from the DNC, just walkaway and move to a different party.
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Post by dn on Jul 13, 2018 8:58:27 GMT -5
At this point, if you are a moderate liberal who is tired of the crap from the DNC, just walkaway and move to a different party. /me looks at the two party system.
I can appreciate the sentiment, but realistically? There is no chance of a third party rising to challenge the might of the Big Two. Corporate interests simply wouldn't allow it. The Democrats and the Republicans simply wouldn't allow it. It would take something apocalyptic to enact that sort of paradigm shift and I doubt America would come out in one piece from such an event.
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Post by Justince on Jul 14, 2018 11:46:35 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/movies/scarlett-johansson-rub-and-tug-transgender.htmlSocial justice Warriors decide who gets to act in what now. Respect women, respect women! Until they infringe on a more victimized group...then fuck women! This privileged white-cis whore taking roles away from transpeople!! Fuck you too Leonardo DiCaprio, for taking roles away from retarded people. Also eat dick Dustin Hoffman, how many autistic actors starved in 1988 thanks to your selfish bullshit! They could have had a world-class star bring this movie into the big time, but that's just not good enough. Logically we'll be seeing only gay actors play gay people, and straight actors relegated to all the straight roles right? Since casting companies must now refer to twitter and jezebel.com before doing what's best for the film, this is apparently what SJW's want..for now, until the rules change again and some other group needs to be a bigger victim.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 4:58:38 GMT -5
amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/14/identity-politics-right-left-trump-racismThis article here has highlighted to me a thought I've had about American political discourse for a while. The way that "Left" and "Right" are mortal enemies and are not to be persuaded or understood, but attacked and caricatured in the hopes of making the other irrelevant and defeated. Obviously I'm not American, so I don't have a horse in that race, but the proliferation of American culture, particularly online, means that we're getting all that identity politics and polarisation in British politics and online discussion as well, now. It's strange how the UK has changed over my lifetime and I think this is a big part of it. The whole concept of a threatening "other" probably explains the relationship between Scotland and England quite well, too, as dn's political story thread has explained to the outsiders from a Scottish perspective. We probably don't actively, individually hate eachother day to day, but on a political level and as a group there's a real conflict.
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Post by Phml on Jul 15, 2018 10:11:41 GMT -5
Phobus, that's a really interesting point. Over here in France, it gets downright strange as the journalists and pundits are clearly porting over American talking points. But the French people are fairly conservative, most of them don't speak English and even those who do aren't so invested in oversea politics. We're having this strange dynamic of medias consistently talking about things with no connection to real life. American imperialism is in a way more prevalent in the 21st century than it ever was at the height of the Cold War.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 11:53:28 GMT -5
Amusingly, The Guardian are very guilty of they disconnect you've mentioned between the media and the general populace... Which makes that article all the more welcome!
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Post by 40oz on Jul 17, 2018 10:14:01 GMT -5
I remember as a teenager thinking that I was so underground and ahead of the curve when i was listening to punk rock albums with album covers about riots, bombings, and police brutality and crust lyrics about christian indoctrination, racism, poverty, and how the government covers up its own war crimes. I would research what they were singing about and find all these photos and documents that were all readily available on the internet that no one was talking about. Nobody seemed to know about how much inequality there was in the world, in our country, in our own state. No one seemed to care about the war going on overseas for seemingly no real purpose. It was infuriating to be surrounded by all these people in my normal life who are just completely blind because they only care about inundating their lives with reality tv and pop music and what's going on directly in front of their eyes. Nobody seemed to think about how serious this was except a few select friends who were also in the same group as me and a bunch of outsiders in random forums around the internet who also had trouble 'fitting in' with the rest of society.
At the time I never really wondered about what the world would be like if everyone I didn't know was as motivated and politically/socially charged as I was without me having to inform them. I thought there'd be revolution and political reform. We'd burn down the establishment and our world leaders would forfeit. Their agenda to keep everyone in line would cripple. They wanted everyone to be watching garbage TV programming and listening to their stupid music about partying and drinking and fucking. They wanted everyone to be distracted with their own personal lives so they could perform their diabolical deeds behind the curtain. It was downright evil and needed to be stopped. It felt like my responsibility to get people to open their eyes and see what was really happening so we could put a stop to all of this.
It's 2018, and here we are. I can see now that its such a short sighted and potentially cataclysmic goal. Getting people to wake up is such a major part of everyone's lives now. And we're hearing it from all the socially-retarded attention-seeking victimized millenials in the world who are looking for the next short term crisis to blame all their own problems on.
What I wished for when I was a teen is manifesting now. I probably would have been excited for this if it wasn't 15 years too late. We all know now. This act of chasing the next world problem and being ahead of the curve and being an advocate for LGBTQ rights and discrediting, throwing down, and destroying everyone and anyone who is believed to be "part of the problem" has become what reality tv and sucky pop music was in the past; A collossal distraction from the real source of the issues that people have welcomed with open arms into their lives. But its far worse. Its making people dishonest, its making people act out of character, and it's breeding apathy towards these real problems for those who don't want to lie to themselves. I hate that I have to defend whom I know to be good, level-headed, pragmatic people. Perfectly friendly, educated, talented, and rational people are continually under siege, losing their careers for accidents, poor choice of words, and the propagation of embellished stories from ignorant and/or vicious people who want to hurt people anonymously. It's fucking sick. The world is now so much more apparently evil when we can now see how many people take the path to cause destruction with little to no accountability for their actions. It's the inherent manifestation of unapologetic hatred that racism always was, taking a new form. It's worse than I ever imagined.
It's so important to care about these types of socio-political issues because they're very real and exist in the world today, but the world can't afford all the friendly fire when there's such competition to be the hero.
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