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Post by TOS on Nov 14, 2016 20:40:00 GMT -5
If the cunt Mrs. Clinton had won, do you think that thread would exist? Just a thought. I always caught so much flack for mentioning my contempt for Clinton while other members bashing Trump and his supporters never seemed to be a problem.
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GRUG
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Post by GRUG on Nov 14, 2016 21:03:29 GMT -5
I highly doubt that thread would have existed if that warhawk crook won.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 22:54:35 GMT -5
Two words: Double Standard.
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Post by Inferno on Nov 14, 2016 23:03:12 GMT -5
I've always called Hillary "Hillaryous Clinton".
On topic: I wouldn't expect the announcement to exist if Hillaryous was elected.
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Post by printz on Nov 15, 2016 2:06:11 GMT -5
1) I believe that moratorium happened because too many political threads cropped up, and all failed to survive the flame wars. It's unfortunate Doomworld can no longer sustain civilized conversations on controversial topics. Contrast it with this thread at ZDoom, which survived for 21 pages. It still got closed, but just because the ZDoom moderators are very strict, and they acted at the first name-calling (and the topic was dwindling anyway). 2) I don't think Donald Trump is great. He seems like the kind who talks a lot (whatever people love to hear) and can't really do much. I laughed out loud at his 60 minute interview where he always sidestepped his campaign promises (when questioned about whether they will still happen) while still claiming that he will be the boss and do ALL THAT SHOULD BE DONE. 3) Assuming what each of them said in the campaign is true (doubtful), I'm not sure if, for me as an eastern European, Donald Trump's falling to peace with Russia is a good thing. The US have a ballistic defense system and a military base in our country, for example, and the Russians don't like it. Would I like Russians to advance into our country, now that most of the surrounding region is becoming sympathising to the Russians? Not sure. NEW: 4) It's valid to be politically biased. Unlike other personal rights, someone's voting can influence some other's liberty, so it's okay to convince them to vote for someone else. Censoring or being very strict on a certain candidate's supporters is part of that idea. If I were American, I would probably have voted for Hillary Clinton despite her establishment, because too many people from my group would have been vocal otherwise. It's gotta be a red flag if too many people yell against something, no matter how benign it seems. Now I'm okay with magnate Donald Trump being president, because I have no idea what he will do, so chances are there for the best. |
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TOS
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Post by TOS on Nov 15, 2016 12:14:07 GMT -5
Clinton's entire political career has been riddled with lies and ethical misconduct. She wanted to bring Syrian refugees into our country despite the damage they have been causing in Europe, she wanted to take away Americans' right to defend themselves with firearms, doesn't give a shit about illegal immigration because being easy on it means more democrat votes...no. absolutely not. She is way too crooked. I'd take eight more years of Obummer over Clinton in a heartbeat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 12:25:09 GMT -5
I would have voted for Trump simply based on the fact that I support most of his policies. Whether or not he's an honest guy and lives up to those promises, who knows. I personally don't think any politicians are honest, him included. Nothing you can do about that really. He'll make plenty of mistakes, I'm sure. And when he does, all the Hillary supporters are going to scream "I told you so!" How annoying. If she were in power, things wouldn't be magically perfect either.
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Post by MrGlide on Nov 15, 2016 12:30:53 GMT -5
I don't like trump, yet... time will tell if he fucks up or not. Hillary would have just empowered the current Oligarchy that has consumed america and started more war. I like obama, I very much dislike Hillary.
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Post by Doomer Boards on Nov 15, 2016 16:11:43 GMT -5
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Post by Clone on Nov 16, 2016 0:58:03 GMT -5
A Clinton thread would have been made if she was elected, and odds are it would have devolved into a shit storm. I may not agree with certain things on DW, but I do believe that the "moratorium" event would have happened regardless. Political threads have been a major disaster on DW as of late. In some ways it's good, because it shows there are still some with diverse opinions, even if the majority spends their time stomping on the minority opinions (Probably not helped by fairly bad rhetoric from the vocal minority of that minority). Political threads are hazardous within certain groups, and Doomworld is one of them. I don't dicuss politics much, but when I do I prefer them to be civil, and if possible, carried out in person.
I was neither a supporter of Trump or Clinton. Clinton as far as I can tell is the best example of a corrupt politician, in every way. Absolute slime. Trump, from what I can tell, has performed shady scams and business deals *CoughTrumpAcademycough*, and I do worry about how that could bleed over. Yet even so, he doesn't actually seem corrupt, or not as corrupt. My only real political leaning is "pro-gun" so I'll work with that.
I actually voted third-party Johnson, under the idea that if he got his quota for Federal campaign funding he'd be better off in the next 4 years. A strategic vote, perhaps. But I'm not the most politically sound anyways. Maybe that's not good.
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Post by MrGlide on Nov 16, 2016 6:42:03 GMT -5
Honestly, you went and voted, thats whats good clone. As for the president, electoral collage picks that. Theres alot more on these ballets that are important that the electoral college doesn't have control over such as positions in your community, a lot of people seem to forget that voting isn't soley for the presidency.
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Post by Doomer Boards on Nov 16, 2016 9:28:25 GMT -5
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TOS
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Post by TOS on Nov 16, 2016 12:20:53 GMT -5
I found it interestinf that when I went to vote, I didn't have to show proof of residency or identification of any kind. I think that every person who votes shoild be required to show some form of photo I.D. when they go to vote, without exception.
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Post by MrGlide on Nov 16, 2016 13:10:52 GMT -5
Really? I did. Here we had to show our state id/drivers license.
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Post by Doomer Boards on Nov 16, 2016 13:14:14 GMT -5
I found it interestinf that when I went to vote, I didn't have to show proof of residency or identification of any kind. I think that every person who votes shoild be required to show some form of photo I.D. when they go to vote, without exception. I agree. The legitimacy of the vote should have primacy, over anything else. Voter ID laws should be mandatory in every state. Furthermore, the penalty of voter fraud should be made even greater. 10 years in prison, and a $100,000 fine. Really? I did. Here we had to show our state id/drivers license. Its left to the the states, whether to require ID or not. States also choose the means of voting. |
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Post by MrGlide on Nov 16, 2016 13:25:08 GMT -5
I'v always wondered why we can't do some kind of encription for our votes, wouldn't that help?
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Post by Clone on Nov 16, 2016 15:51:09 GMT -5
Honestly, you went and voted, thats whats good clone. As for the president, electoral collage picks that. Theres alot more on these ballets that are important that the electoral college doesn't have control over such as positions in your community, a lot of people seem to forget that voting isn't soley for the presidency. Very true. I actually cared more about a school referendum and the humorous bit that Congressman Sensenbrenner has ran unopposed for yet another year. He's been in it so long he probably wouldn't know what to do if he lost his job. Probably bag groceries. |
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Post by deathevokation on Nov 16, 2016 20:26:42 GMT -5
To be fair, I think given the hysterical replies you got so early in your thread, and the shit about people litterally shaking in their boots for total annihilation of minorities, and "wow Hitler was a popularist candidate, and so is Trump, coincidince?", we weren't really missing much with a mass closing of threads, trace..
Most of these people are millenials who have been brought up getting their way politically, so dealing with the disappointment of your candidate losing is new to them.. and they have this idea that up until this election the left were the only people who have been leading the way in progressing Western civilization towards some Utopia, while at the same time taking a lot of people's concerns regarding things that matter, like their future... and not just dismissing them, taking it one step further and trying to police said opinions, condescendingly telling them to suck it up and fall in line, guilting them and making examples out of people by publically shaming and humiliating them and sometimes going as far as to deliberately try to sabotage their careers, costing them their ability to put food on the table, and given the hag's wonderful speech on naughty words, the "alt right", "deplorables", virtue signaling about decency, combined with her no fly zone over Syria and another Cold War; I can imagine a term where America has to fight a war on 2 fronts at the same time, where "discussions" about hate speech laws happen in parrelel to her implementing her no fly zone over Syria... creating more refugees to ship to America while playing dumb about how they got there. She would have been a nightmare.
So I'm glad Trump won, the uncertainty under Trump is WAY less scary than the certainty under Hillary, and the fact that he won in the face of such adversity, a level of nastiness and elitism that only the worst of the left is capable of, with meanspirited unfunny comedians and the most disgusting media campaign I've ever seen, the DnC hiring mentally ill people to cause fights at rallies only to blame it on Trump, seriously.. most people would crumble under less the pressure, so he really deserves credit where it's due. If he could do just a fraction as much as he said he'd do (and he already is stepping in the right direction, with regards to Russia) then I'd be happy..
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