DOOM ETERNAL Discussion

Nah, you shouldn't, that's not my point. I was referring to threads like this one: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101081-doom-eternal-will-be-unfinished/?tab=comments#comment-1887321

Sure, if Doom 2016 was a bugfest and an inconsistent, unbalanced mess then I would totally be worried about a sequel as well, but so far the only thing we've got is a teaser. We all have our expectations, but until some gameplay footage is shown it's too early to draw conclusions, especially ones that are unfounded such as whatever is going in that thread.

Some concept art, wallpaper-sized:

Wait, aren't they worms?

I'll wait until game shows up and after that I'll give my full opinion. Now fb is full of hype and I'm kind of annoyed.

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[countdown:Doom Eternal reveal in...=August 10 2018 12:00 PM -4] [/countdown]

At least you tried!

I definitely am, it's early evening so it's a perfect time to watch the gameplay reveal after a busy day of streaming.

Thoughts?

A lot to think about here.

Let's start with some general categories. List all of the specific features within these categories and we'll make separate threads or a super thread where we talk about stuff in more detail and how/why you feel about it.

Art Direction
Environments
Monsters
Guns
Gameplay Mechanics
Game modes
Misc

I am super excited for Eternal, I'm impressed by how much content seems to be there. The redesigns are fantastic and the levels are immense.

But they still didn't show the Arch-Vile's abilities in action .

While I too am saddened by the apparent lack of boats and toilets, I'd like to bring up a more serious issue, despite not being part of the target demographic myself: When it is all about the weaponry, why do they sound so weak? The plasma rifle and machine gun especially.

Art Direction

It looks like they responded to the photoshopped image with the colorful demons, because the imps are brown and spikey, with red eyes, the cacodemons are red and bleed blue, and the rest of the monsters look a 50/50 blend of the new monsters with the original 90's doom beastiary. In color, they look like the old monsters we know and love, and in their models, they look fresh and new like we saw them in Doom 2016. I think it was a cool compromise. The new models for the guns such as the Rocket Launcher and the Plasma Gun also look much closer to original guns, which I also think is a smart move. It's a bit of pandering to the original Doomers that I think people looking for a new experience might be annoyed by, but overall I think it was the best way to go.

Environments

The title Doom 2: Hell on Earth brings with it some imagery of burning cities and devastation. From what we've seen in the gameplay video, the environments includes multi-story buildings that have been ripped open, offering many different levels to jump around on, with no sacrifice to the level of detail. I think this is the significance of the new Idtech7 engine. These environments are about double the size of what you see in Doom 2016, and the attention to detail is just as pristine. Doom 2016 had some pretty huge environments in the Hell levels, but a lot of it was made up of skybox. Here, everything looks like you can interact with it. The cities also include hell-induced fleshwall influence, with tentacles and teeth growing out of the buildings. It's a bit tacky to me, as I think Pink Spaghetti™ is the go-to move for getting that nausea-inducing feeling of disturbing other-worldliness. I think it's kind of weak and uninteresting though, as its just too common in a lot of other horror-themed games. Oh Well. It also seems like the Doomslayer makes a return back to Phobos, which looks like a good fun time. I was hoping to see those famous Yangshuo mountains and overcast skies though!

From the gameplay footage that was shown I have to say that it looks pretty perfect to me! The buzz around Doom 4 didn't give me nearly as much satisfaction as seeing this game does. I gotta say that I trust this game to be really amazing y'all. What really made it for me was seeing Phobos and at that point I was really hyped!