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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 10:25:21 GMT -5
So with Trump largely responsible for unprecedented progress with NK, I would now like to see him largely responsible for unprecedented progress in reuniting these children and their families: Maybe instead of putting the burden of reuniting children with families on Trump, how about holding their shitty parents responsible for the problem in the first place? Bunch of scum animals.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 14:03:39 GMT -5
If those children crying out for their parents doesn’t touch you somewhere inside you’re a cuntier man than I am @vordakk .
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Post by Justince on Jun 28, 2018 16:22:57 GMT -5
So with Trump largely responsible for unprecedented progress with NK, I would now like to see him largely responsible for unprecedented progress in reuniting these children and their families: Maybe instead of putting the burden of reuniting children with families on Trump, how about holding their shitty parents responsible for the problem in the first place? Bunch of scum animals. Taking a chance on America's immigration policy or staying home with murderous rampaging gangs. I'd like to see what choice you'd make for your own kids. But this statement is really low hanging fruit from a tiresome edgelord.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 16:27:00 GMT -5
Good statement Justince. And fuck your scum animals comment little V. It's always amusing when people from countries founded on immigration decry future immigration, like that is the solution to society's ills. Maybe they just can't handle the competition.
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Post by Justince on Jun 28, 2018 16:46:09 GMT -5
Since I'm here and the door's been opened, let me just quote the great George Carlin:
Zero Tolerance:
"I get weary of this zero tolerance bullshit. It's annoying. To begin with, it's a fascist concept; it's what Hitler and Stalin practiced. It allows for no exceptions or compassion of any kind. All is black and white - no gradations. But even more important, it doesn't solve anything. The use such a slogan simply allows whichever company, school or municipality is using it to claim they're doing something about a problem when, in fact, nothing is being done at all and the problem is being ignored. It's a cosmetic non-solution designed to impress simpletons. Whenever you hear the phrase zero tolerance, remember, someone is bullshitting you."
Thanks George, you were a light in the darkness of utter stupidity.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 1:23:52 GMT -5
Taking a chance on America's immigration policy or staying home with murderous rampaging gangs. I'd like to see what choice you'd make for your own kids. But this statement is really low hanging fruit from a tiresome edgelord. Maybe if they got off their asses and cleaned up their own country, they wouldn't have these "murderous rampaging gangs" that you speak of. Nowhere in America's constitution does it say we have to wipe other countries' asses when they take a dump. It's not our job to take the worst that they've got and learn to speak a new language to accomodate these little bastards. If they want to come here, they can proceed through legal channels of immigration. It's always our duty as the USA to be kind and gentle in the minds of the Left. How about we start holding them accountable for their own actions, or rather failure to act?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 1:31:56 GMT -5
There’s also nowhere in your constitution that states that you can take foreign kids away from their parents and place them somewhere while refusing to tell the parents where they are. What a barbarious society you yanks have, I wonder why people would even want to go there. But fair play about learning other languages to “accommodate” these immigrants. I sympathise with you guys on that because a lot of you can barely learn your own these days.
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 1:34:36 GMT -5
@glenzinho...what say you when the children or American criminals cry for their parent as they're dragged away to prison for their crimes? Families are seperated there, too. Why should people entering our country in an illegal manner be treated better than our own domestic criminals? When crimes are committed, people are arrested and seperated from their families. Maybe in Australia parents are allowed to bring their children with them when they are arrested. Can we get a confirmation or denial on that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 1:36:41 GMT -5
Why shouldn’t people just be treated like humans in general? And if anyone is dragging the criminals away from their families, isn’t it your father and soon to be yourself? Does he shed a tear for the innocents?
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 1:38:18 GMT -5
They seperated themselves from their family when they decided to break the law and risk capture. I will have no problem putting them where they belong.
So you think that when someone is arrested, their family should be allowed to go with them if they want to? Such a heartwarming sentiment. If only that were actually a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 1:44:32 GMT -5
Must be easy to ride your high horse living in a black and white world hee-haw John Wayne style. And for the record the law is pretty similar here, but my Ma was usually back home from the lockup by the time I woke up the times that she was arrested for public cuntedness, but that’s besides the point. These “criminals” coming across your borders have not committed heinous crimes against your people or your society, they’re trying to cross a piece of land. Deport the fuck outta them back to Mexico but don’t be taking their kids away you cunts.
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 1:49:25 GMT -5
In some parts of the world, people are shot for crossing into foreign territory uninvited. Hell, you act as if we're kidnapping them. They're little kids, of course they're scared. Of course they're going to cry. They don't know what's going on. Their parents put them in that situation. We didn't pluck them from their homes and detain them. What? Just go drop them off back at the border so they can just come back in? No. Book them. Get their information. Then if they do it again it isn't a first offense.
All that could have been avoided if they came here the right way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 1:56:13 GMT -5
Like the right way of doing things was to take the land that your country stands on right now from the British because they wanted to charge more tax. Or the way your plantations and crop fields were built from enslaving other humans who didn’t actually want to go to your country but were taken by force. Or the way your country went and bombed Iraq back into the stone ages under the pretence of terrorism because they wanted more oil and control, and on and on and on... Look history is riddled with human bullshittery and scumbaggery, but what is happening there with those kids is at worst kidnapping and at best pure bureaucratic incompetence. There’s no high ground here and defending ya stupid little bullshit laws just makes you stupid. Have some fucken compassion and humanity. Send them back over the border as a family and build ya fucken wall. If ya country’s so great it should be able to defend its borders a little better dontcha think?
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 2:00:45 GMT -5
Yeah, and maybe if it weren't for the spineless left thinking with their hearts instead of their brains, we'd be able to defend it better.
Why don't you hold the parents accountable for their irresponsbility? Why should it be our job to see to their comfort when they broke into our country?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 2:02:33 GMT -5
I’m not asking you cunts to make them comfortable, just to stop taking their fucking kids away. If you want to be so anal about law, why don’t you cunts go and obliterate all of the things created by working slaves to their ill health or death? It’s proceeds of crime and should be confiscated. Of course that is not going to happen as it would fuck up the current way of things, which are good by the way and would be better if families weren’t separated.
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 2:06:27 GMT -5
Their parents were arrested. Plain and simple. Maybe if they cared more about their children they wouldn't have put them in such a horrible situation. America can barely help all of it's own people. Why should we have to worry about other countries' people too? We shouldn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 2:08:58 GMT -5
You’re funny Chicabro. As I’ve just told you in our private chat I’m getting too drunk for this right now and am going out, but do one last thing for me please. As you’re great at defending as we can see here, defend Vordakk’s comment of “Bunch of scum animals” that he made in referral to these people. I’ll need a laugh later on when I’m winding down from a good night out so do me this favour. Oh before I go this one is gold too: America can barely help all of it's own people. Why should we have to worry about other countries' people too? We shouldn't. How about staying the fuck outta other people's countries for a start? Also isn't the American Way about helping yourself first and foremost? Don't ask what America can do for you and all that yadda yadda populist crap.
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 2:26:58 GMT -5
Referring to them as scum animals is a bit too personal for my liking...but I find the actions that they (not the children) have committed to be scummy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 2:28:04 GMT -5
How politically correct, you disappoint me Chicabro. You should turn in your Doomer and metal badge... You will make a fine American police officer, I'll give you that at least.
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 2:32:49 GMT -5
(hands over badges) I don't need these. This time it's personal.
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Post by Justince on Jun 29, 2018 11:16:21 GMT -5
Their parents were arrested. Plain and simple. Maybe if they cared more about their children they wouldn't have put them in such a horrible situation. America can barely help all of it's own people. Why should we have to worry about other countries' people too? We shouldn't. Entering the country illegally is a fucking misdemeanor. Imagine being pulled over for speeding and having your children detained without process or ability to contact you. That's what is happening. But maybe we'd all feel better if we made a road trip down there and started yelling at 4 year-olds and women to "fix yer own damn country!" I'm not advocating open boarders, I'm not advocating illegal entry, but what is happening to these people is flat out wrong.
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Post by 40oz on Jun 29, 2018 11:49:29 GMT -5
TOS and @glenzinho, you guys are Commanding the thread. If you see the other has responded, give yourself a few hours to really think about your response and write it well. No one wants to see fifty 1-2 sentence retorts back and forth.
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 16:37:11 GMT -5
Their parents were arrested. Plain and simple. Maybe if they cared more about their children they wouldn't have put them in such a horrible situation. America can barely help all of it's own people. Why should we have to worry about other countries' people too? We shouldn't. Entering the country illegally is a fucking misdemeanor. Imagine being pulled over for speeding and having your children detained without process or ability to contact you. That's what is happening. But maybe we'd all feel better if we made a road trip down there and started yelling at 4 year-olds and women to "fix yer own damn country!" I'm not advocating open boarders, I'm not advocating illegal entry, but what is happening to these people is flat out wrong. Answer this question for me: How do we know when one of these people who only commited a misdemeanor aren't a rapist, drug dealer, or murderer? How would you suggest we determine when someone should be detained and not? What criteria should there be? What do dangerous criminals look like? That is why they're detained. We don't know who is a threat and who isn't. Go ahead and tell me how "they aren't all like that." Duh, of course they aren't. But everyone who crosses over should receive the same standard treatment if it means keeping even one rapist, murderer, or drug dealer out or behind bars.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 16:44:14 GMT -5
How do we know you’re not a rapist, murderer or drug dealer? Why don’t we just lock you up just in case? Your logic is fucked even by your usual standards Trace.
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Post by TOS on Jun 29, 2018 16:54:06 GMT -5
You can find out by checking my background, like they do when they're detained. It takes a little longer to get background criminal records on these people due in part to the state of their government and the fact that they're foreign. It isn't like when we're pulled over for speeding and the cop can just check your background in their car and see if you're wanted. Calls have to be made and that leads to more calls. A lot of people are detained at the border every single day. That is a lot of calls and a lot of waiting. This shouldn't be that hard to comprehend.
Leave the decision making to your brain, let your heart do it's job.
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