[ti]doom[/ti]DB Project #08 - MINDBLOOD GENESIS

MIDI list:
MAP01: System Control Remix by Zorasoft
MAP02: E1M2
MAP03: I Sawed the Demons Remix by Zorasoft
MAP04: Suspense Remix by Zorasoft
Map05: Deep into the Code Remix by Zorasoft
Map06: Running From Evil Remix by Zorasoft
Map07: Human Barbecue Remix by Zorasoft
Map08: E2M6
Map09: E1M1 Remix by Zorasoft
Map10: Hiding the Secrets Remix by Zorasoft
Map11: 90s WAD MIDI #1
Map12: 90s WAD MIDI #2
Map13: 90s WAD MIDI #3
Map14: E3M3
Map15: TNT MAP20
Map16: That Doomcity MIDI
Map17: ICARUS MIDI #1
Map18: ICARUS MIDI #2
Map19: ICARUS MIDI #3
Map20: E1M5
Map21: E2M2
Map22: E2M8
Map23: E1M9
Map24: Alice In Chains - Them Bones
Map25: Король и Шут - Воспоминания о былой любви
Map26: Король и шут - Проклятый старый дом
Map27: Metallica - The Four Horsemen
Map28: Iron Maiden - The Trooper
Map29: Iron Maiden - Aces High
Map30: Metallica - Master of Puppets
Map31: GOTHICDM MIDI #1
Map32: Mark Klem MIDI

Quick additional credits are for: id Software, DrDoctor, Alpha Accident, Chaos Theory, Realm667, Big Ol' Billy, blakglov, doomcity, OwTheEdge, and all of you because you all deserve more credit.

Hey guys, I wish you all a happy new year.   I made a map!

Music used: Deep Into The Code remix by Zorasoft
Bugs: Evil Scepter puzzle may fail either due to a linedef skip or a certain switch was already hit (fortunately the linedef skipping can at least still be used to get such item).

Tested with PrBoom+ 2.5.1.5
Meteor Storm

Missing the enormous skull switch for the yellow key pillar...
Not getting the plasma gun by just triggering the crusher, waiting for the time it moves up, and running for it then...
Not understanding that a shootable switch is what lowers the red key and exiting its building lifts the key back up...

I'd say I'm on good terms with Doom and the problem may be something else XD

Aw yeah that was awesome Xyzzy01 ! Badass map with some very fine intricate details. Glad to see you had fun with the resources making this map! I also appreciate the solidified automap linedefs so the background doesn't show up. Now I wonder where the blue skull key is hiding. Thank you for the map!

I see I'll have to fix that LAVFALL texture though by changing it to DBRAIN in the resource pack.

Devious! Good usage of the 30 second close door for something entirely optional, but which makes a certain battle easier, nice work! I’ll have to check that next time. When Cuppy changes the lavafall to the DBRAIN slot the falls should work as intended, you’ll just have to change the sidedefs on your end to DBRAIN. About difficulty, traditionally we don’t set any up in the DBPs, work that out between yourself and Cuppy, it’s his show this month. I’d hate to see you make this more beastly on UV but I’m soft. Thanks for the map!

Updated resource pack. Fixed LAVFALL into DBRAIN and fixed the Chaingun firing sprites.

Xyzzy01 I'll fix the LAVFALL texture before release if you don't want to edit it again. I'll go ahead and say the thing placement in the map is UV, but feel free to change a few things and polish it more in your vision if you want. When it comes to adjusting difficulty settings I'm in favor of altering only an item or two the player can get (like an extra armor) and a few monsters that can make a difference (one extra pesky revenant or demon). I definitely don't want things to be considered frustrating.

A thought just occurred Xyzzy01: are the Lost Souls the meteors in Meteor Storm?

Looks like a few of the textures got messed up when making a new version. I'll have it fixed later since it's not important right now (just use the original resource pack) because I'm mapping.

Also Xyzzy01, I played your map, tried but failed to record a demo (shakes fist at Mac ZDoom). Also found it a bit on the frustrating side. I like puzzly progression in general, though I feel like it's not necessarily the best fit for DBP maps. Do you think the map would play that differently with more obvious ways to get the keys? Seems like the main effect would be just decreasing the amount of time players would have to spend, though there is something to be said for the "eureka" moments that puzzles give you. And with a short, small map it's not such a dealbreaker, just wanted to raise the issue.

The more frustrating thing, I think, was having to run around in the main area at the beginning and end. It's dark, there are lots of odd angles, lots of blocking things, and even some invisible barriers (start area and evil red scepter area). This means that its really easy to get caught on something--possibly something you can't see well or at all--running from a vile or rev, which can easily mean insta-death given the health/armor situation.

I really like the ability to choose powerups, that's a fun trope that doesn't get used enough.

Thank you for the maps bigolbilly , for I am eternally grateful!

MAP01 - I'm glad this map exists; yay forests! Good to see that texture used. I like the berserk punching including the archvile pummeling and the one inside the marble cube was quite the challenge requiring me to shimmy and wait around the fountain altar. I also like the exploratory secret such as the blue armor. I remember another secret but I forgot how I found it on my first playthrough. Fun somber map.

MAP02 - Classy! I really like this map too. It took me a moment to realize that the MIDI that was playing was what you meant to play. This map was fun too and I zoned out in it but in the good ways! Very nice so thank you again for making these maps! 

MAP03 - This map is cool with some nice MEATY progression. One issue I had though is that I ran out of ammo near the start, (I didn't find the chaingun until much later) so maybe adding a chainsaw somewhere would help. Really nice barrels in the chaingun room though. I also like the Hell Knight that teleports across acid pools, and also the Barons near the end I have to rocket. I really like the pacing in this map it's good stuff!

MAP04 - I like corridors but not so much when they're this tough! Quite the tightly knit map but I'd like to have more cell ammo for the cyberdemons and trying to knock them down with rockets while they move up and down isn't very fun for me. Maybe you could get an invulnerability sphere when the walls come down and then have to clear as much as you can before it runs out and the secret could be more cell ammo. Personally not my cuppa' tea but if this somehow becomes a megawad then I'll gladly allow this to take the MAP31 slot mwahaha.

Welp.

The things bigolbilly found issue with in my map (the size and layout specifically) were sort of intended to be that way. Kinda like a "fight for room" sorta deal with the flood of monsters.

But if the design is gonna be edited to be more spacious and maneuverable then so be it I guess; I obviously wouldn't do it myself *shrug*

Ok, that's fine. Btw I knew the red key puzzle might get axed which is why I didn't comment on that, heh.