[ti]politics[/ti]EDIT: Never mind, blacks are voting Trump now it seems Aug 12, 2018 15:52:11 GMT -5
Post by hardcoregamer on Aug 12, 2018 15:52:11 GMT -5
EDIT: The original title of this thread was: "The reason Trump will lose and why civil war is inevitable"
And when I say civil war, I mean throughout all the western world in general and not just in the USA.
For the record, I actually support most of Trump's policies in-spite of not being American (I am European), as well as the current rise of populism sweeping the continent presently. Unfortunately, I am not holding my breath for anything to actually happen, and believe that the entire thing will amount to nothing more than a giant case of blueballs for the populist right all over the western world. There are a number of reasons for why I believe this, which I will list below:
1. Trump supporters don't understand why Trump actually won.
Trump supporters believe that Trump won because of America getting sick of political correctness. This is a massive half-truth. The specific portions of the USA (and west in general) that are hurt the most by by political correctness such as the working classes supported Trump, but most of the middle classes don't give a shit or even embrace the it themselves. Fact is, Trump only won because of Hillary. And even then just barely at that. Speaking of the middle classes...
2. The western middle classes (America's included) don't give a shit about the working class. Also, immigration.
This is going to sound harsh but it's true: Middle and upper class people don't care about anybody but themselves. Granted you can say the same about most people, but in the context of politics and Trump's/populism's chances of winning the middle classes insure that those odds are almost none. In order to understand why, it's important to understand why populist policies are popular among the native working classes, and why those same policies are unpopular among the middle classes.
The rise of populism in the west right now is the result of mostly 2 things: Open borders and immigration from the third world with all the crime that comes with it, and the lowering of wages and jobs that comes with it also. This makes globalism and open borders very destructive for the working classes. BUT, for the middle and upper classes both of those things have helped them. Cheaper working class labor can allow them to buy things for cheaper, and most of the immigrant crime and terrorism tends to happen in the poor people's neighborhoods rather than their own giving them less reason to care. If they even care at all. This makes populism and anti-globalism popular among the working classes, but unpopular among the middle classes. Then there is also the foreign working class, which doesn't really care about it's host nation anyway and so won't vote for populist movements. In totality, there are thus more people who are hostile towards populism then there are people who are in favor. And this will only become even more true as more foreigners flood into the west.
3. By the time people wake up, it will be too late.
But at some point even the native middle classes will start to realize that globalism is destructive in the end. Once a large portion of the voters start voting for undemocratic and illiberal policies (like muslims voting for sharia law for example), and once public infrastructure starts collapsing because of the high social cost of all the immigration and the crime, even they will start realizing this isn't really working. But by then, it will be too late to do anything. Through democratic means that is. Then after a while, you are going to see non-natives forming radical political movements the purpose of which is to basically abolish the democracy (radical muslims), or massively redistribute (that is, steal) wealth and property from the white middle and upper classes over to other groups (similar to what is currently happening in South africa). This will cause the native middle and upper classes to freak the fuck out, and knowing it won't be possible to prevent this via the bailout they in their panic will start supporting extremist far-right movements (as in actual literal fascists). The tensions this will generate will then boil over into civil war.
I know these sound like grim predictions, but I honestly can't imagine anything else happening at this point. It appears that the west is too ignorant to what is happening and that only once things get really really bad will they wake up but then it will be too late anyway In a way you could compare all of this to the story about Noah's flood. Noah warned everybody but nobody listened, and only after the flood came did they regret their decisions but then it was all too late anyway and they all drowned...
Do you agree or disagree with my analysis?
EDIT: Well it turns out that 20-30% of blacks are now supporting Trump. Well I guess you can ignore everything I said for the USA then. If the democrats have shat themselves so badly that even the blacks are turning on them then they are smokey porkey. Still think Europe is smoked though.