TOS
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Post by TOS on Apr 16, 2018 5:44:59 GMT -5
Does anyone else here feel this way?
I am just so tired of it all. Every day the same thing...wake up, go to a job I hate to deal with people I can't stand that treat me like shit on the bottom of their shoes for pay that barely keeps my head above water, go home to be around more people who either don't care or simply can't relate to my plight, suffering every day with the constant thought in the back of my head shouting in my ear that I am worthless and easily replaceable...Hell, the only person in my life who I am fucking positive genuinely gives a shit about me is my best friend who I've known for fifteen years, but due to conflicting schedules we don't get to see eachother too often.
A very brief description of my situation...
I get just over three hundred dollars a week at my job and give my dad a hundred of that a week for rent. I live at home because I can't afford to move out. I pay for all of my own food, clothes, and other necessities. My car payment is just under three hundred a month, and I find myself constantly dipping into what little savings I have so I don't lose my means to my job. Whenever I bring this up to my dad (who I don't have a bad relationship with at all), he just writes it off as my being financially irresponsible which couldn't be further from the truth. I don't do any kind of frivolous spending to speak of...but he always goes on and on about how back when he was my age he managed to get by while working minimum wage (I make more than minimum wage). I try explaining to him that a dollar today is significantly less valuable than a dollar in the 1970s was, and he just tells me I'm wrong and he won't listen to any argument for the contrary. Furthermore, I feel completely undesirable to others in regard to romantic relationships outside of short little sexual flings which, while fun, don't provide the mutual feeling of meaning that a happy relationship between two people can give you.
I just don't see a way out anytime soon and it is really taking a toll on me today for some reason.
Once again, I am NOT suicidal, contemplating suicide, nor will I ever. I am way too terrified of the unknown to ever take my life or knowingly allow myself to die. I am just tired of being alive lately, it seems.
Can anybody here relate?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:05:35 GMT -5
I used question why I keep going on, why I wake up in the morning, why I eat to keep going...
I lost too much weight, I became ill, I could not sleep, I lost focus... Until now.
I have found a purpose, something I must do, it is not for my benefit, someone is need of my help and I MUST help them.
Find your purpose, do it for them.
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Post by Justince on Apr 16, 2018 9:53:52 GMT -5
I would start by looking for a new job, something you're interested in, or even better if you can utilize public transportation to reach so you can ditch that car and start saving money. You'll be shocked at how quickly your outlook turns around. And sorry, but if your dad thinks minimum wage today can support someone, he's clueless and not worth engaging in that conversation. There's about a million resources and research online to support that. Shit, you can easily start tracking all your expenses and income (which you should be doing anyway) and find out exactly where your money is going down to the cent, and show him what paltry amount is left over. The only other advice is to work two jobs, then supplement your income for a few years, enough to get out on your own.
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Post by agent6 on Apr 16, 2018 11:54:42 GMT -5
Yeah I can definitely relate.
It just seems like a never-ending struggle to me for a while, most of the time not even paying off, without nothing new going on... I most certainly don't contemplate or consider suicide, and I'm not depressive either, but living is just so tiring and stressful nowadays... Being directionless doesn't help either...
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Post by 40oz on Apr 16, 2018 13:35:52 GMT -5
I've been facing some similar thoughts here and there. I think it's linked to depression in some way but it's more like general apathy for life. I stay alive so that people don't have to deal with grief after I'm gone but in general I don't feel that there is a lot left in my life that I am motivated to complete and if I died now I'd be ok. I haven't had those thoughts since I started managing Doomer Boards Projects though. So I guess the trick is to have a never ending string of goals until you die of natural causes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 14:33:14 GMT -5
Search for new hobbies and things to get good at. Try to learn a language, attempt to get into poetry, get yourself a pet to take care of, look for new people to communicate with. Always keep refreshing your life. The world is full of very interesting things and even if you do your best you'll only familiarize yourself with a tiny tiny part of it. How boring is it really? There is so much to do that it's hard to even choose what to do.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Apr 16, 2018 15:00:35 GMT -5
I get just over three hundred dollars a week ...I was literally about to call you a filthy bourgeoisie who can't get his life together even with such amazing amounts of $$$, but then I remembered that you were in the US where 1200$ per month isn't much at all. Screw that job, really. You deserve more. Especially if it's strainous physical work that you're doing right now, take care of your health and all that. give my dad a hundred of that a week for rent. Wait, you're paying to live at your parents' house??? Ha, rotten capitalism at its finest! Kinda harsh of them, but also kinda makes sense considering you're deep into adulthood and stuff. Is this a frequent phenomenon over there in the US? Furthermore, I feel completely undesirable to others in regard to romantic relationships outside of short little sexual flings which, while fun, don't provide the mutual feeling of meaning that a happy relationship between two people can give you. Perhaps you haven't fully got over your GF, the Mexican one, yet? I dunno though. Don't obsess over all this, anyway. It'll come. BTW, do try to use public transport more, if possible. 1/4 of your salary goes on that car of yours, ffs.
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Post by BattleKorbi on Apr 16, 2018 16:08:29 GMT -5
Eh, I myself don't really have anything that can describe "the beginning of dehprehshun" or something like that. Occasionally, however, life gets a bit too complex and too tangled up; like a pair of earphones in your pocket. If you didn't fold them right, they are going to tangle up and your listening experience would be delayed by a lot of frustrating untangling and attempts to give as less thought as possible over how to untangle them. In the end however, you do pop em up in your ears, and listen to some music right?
That is kinda my life, when it comes to it. I would carelessly fuck up something, and it would come at my head and just cause frustration, because, if I was more smarter or more cautious, I could had properly handled things in my life and they would come out untangled and tidy later when I need them. Just so it happens, my college life is like that. I don't find work as a coder or programmer to be attractive. Nor do I want to teach brats at high school stuff I usually didn't listen to when I went to high school. That is my major right now. Either, at the end of 3 years, you go work in some computer company (is it software or hardware, it's irrelevant), or you go through 2 more years and become a high school professor of math or IT or something like that, or maybe a college professor at the most of the most.
And I kinda don't want to go anymore, so I just... unwillingly sabotage myself on every step, tangling up the metaphorical earbuds in my pocket, and when the time comes to get down to business, I screw up, get frustrated and just... blah. The frustrated time passes, and I am back at the casual mode again, only for the timer for the next stressful period to reset and hide itself from my sight.
And before the frustration gets dispelled, I get incredibly nostalgic and go through a bit of a trippy phase. I suddenly wish I could dial back the clock for a several years, back to the time where my main concern wasn't my future, but something really trivial in comparison. There is something the younger Korbi found delightful and worth fightning for, and what older Korbi seeks to relive yet again. Simple scenes, at most. Sunsets. Clear blue skies. Vast mountains. Birds chirping. Trees dancing by the wind. Fresh scent of the evergreen vegetation. That bizarre but nice scent often heard in the bathroom of the house. Wind playing it's theme song like a video game. Thoughts of adventure and journey. Fantasies of travelling to distant lands. The way my muscles would feel tired after a long day outside. Small, but incredibly meaningful stuff for me.
As so, during this nostalgic phase, I go through my old stuff. Old drawings, old stories, old music I listened to. Old shows I worshipped. Diary entries from that time. Sometimes, I might even install and play a game I haven't touched from that time. I feel like my definition of nostalgia is vastly different from other people. Most people describe and relive nostalgia through old games, old movies, old music, stuff like that. There was some content they enjoyed during that time. No one wants to bother describing the endless summers or harsh winters. No one wants to relieve spring rain again. No one wants to dance amongst the falling leaves of autumn. If they want to, then they are hiding it for some third reason I cannot comprehend.
And so, there I would be, rummaging through the old stuff again, until I would fall into thought. At this point, I cannot remember what does it, but whatever it was, it does it right. I start slowly snapping back to reality, to present time. There is a big challenge in front of me. Life has definitely gotten more tough. And this isn't the time to debate on the meaning of it all, but it is the time to catch up and move just as the world does. And it is time to accept what I had done and what I am going to get out of it, and keep a straight face through all of it. No one to blame but myself. No one to congratulate but myself. No one to thank but myself. To not take the glass that is in front of me would be contradictory and would be considered an act of cowardice, at least for me.
I usually feel good after all is done and cleaned up. I make a note for next time. 99% of the time I follow the note. Unless it's college, and then at that point I just... ya know, do the whole shit over and over again. I just don't feel good at this major, that is all. Everything else about my life; fine and dandy.
Any advice from me? I dunno, if someone is here a type of guy who would rather hide and/or run from their problems, I can only suggest not to. It's going to suck, yeah, it's probably going to suck all the way through and after, but, some problems just cannot be fled from. And this often piles up and causes trouble and stress. It is good to build up endurance for soaking up the shit as well. Other than that... I find... well, uh, I would say "routine change", but that all depends on context. Maybe... a smol project on the side? Like saving up money for something, or adding small daily challenges and objectives... stuff like that. I kinda think in pictures so it's hard for me to describe what I do, without providing pages and pages of context first.
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Post by GRUG on Apr 16, 2018 22:57:20 GMT -5
I used to feel that way back in my shitty teenage youth, and during college I felt these feelings even more.
My advise: Go explore new career paths in life. Research trade schools and pick something that interests you. Hell, plumbers, electricians, and welders make relatively comfortable livings. Those trades are in demand. If you like firearms, go into gunsmithing school. If you like law enforcement, go to the police academy.
I think the Baby Boomer generation is a bit out of touch with how millennials are struggling to make ends meet. Especially the millennials who have tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt. The cost of living is expensive. Certain jobs are limited or unavailable. There's a ton of competition with foreign workers on visas (I'm in the IT industry and I see this unfair employment competition). It's not the old days where you can pay off a 4 year degree with a minimum wage job for a couple of years. Seriously, unless you plan on studying for a degree in the high end of the STEM totem pole, or you're planning on becoming a lawyer, screw college. Forcing every average Joe into higher education is over saturating the job market. It's flooded with morons with 2.3 GPAs and worthless degrees.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 17, 2018 7:37:39 GMT -5
Wait, you're paying to live at your parents' house??? Ha, rotten capitalism at its finest! Kinda harsh of them, but also kinda makes sense considering you're deep into adulthood and stuff. Is this a frequent phenomenon over there in the US? That's a good point. This isn't the first time I've heard of parents either kicking their kids out at a certain age or demanding they help with the bills. I had friends where they were working full time jobs at the age of 15 because their parents were struggling to pay the mortgage. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. I've personally never lived this way, and I never knew I had it so good. My parents never involved me or any of my brothers in the finances except to tell us to cut down on the electricity and water consumption. They never asked a dime from me or any of my brothers for rent, and my oldest brother didn't move out until he was 31. I intend to do the same for my own kids. I don't know how other people think about this, but I think being a parent is supposed to be a thankless job. I can't imagine requesting my kids to work and help me pay my own bills. (spoken like married 28 year old with no kids)
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Post by GRUG on Apr 17, 2018 9:16:08 GMT -5
Wait, you're paying to live at your parents' house??? Ha, rotten capitalism at its finest! Kinda harsh of them, but also kinda makes sense considering you're deep into adulthood and stuff. Is this a frequent phenomenon over there in the US? It's pretty common all throughout the US. The Baby Boomer generation grew up under the notion of being forced to leave the house by 18 to start adulthood. It was expected of the previous generation to be out of the house by that age too. But again, different economic times. It's not the old days of my grandparents where they can start up their own business by being a high school drop out. Good luck doing that in this era, even with a college degree... yeah good of luck with that. Because kids are unable to simply pack their shit and find a decent paying job, they are stuck in college or at home. Selfish Boomers who always bitch about "oh how raising kids ruined my life" thinks it's a good idea to force their kids to pay them rent. These kids are working shit-tier jobs that pay peanuts, and they are stuck in mountains of student debt. AND as another "fuck you" from the Boomers to the Millennials... they are relying on the younger generations (Gen-X, Gen-Y "Millennials", and Gen-Z) to pay for their government gibs-me-dat programs, like Social Security, Medicare, etc... which are going down the toilet as we speak. As much as I hate Millennials, I really can't stand some of the Baby Boomers because of how out of touch with reality they are.
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TOS
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by TOS on Apr 17, 2018 12:46:34 GMT -5
My stance on adult offspring living with their parents and paying rent has me between a rock and a hard place. On one hand I don't want to be a freeloader, I take pride in working for what I have to the best of my capabilities...but on the other hand, it is so hard to save money and get ahead in my own life because I am pretty much paying rent so my dad can more easily afford his fucking Mercedes that he just had to have...as a second vehicle...his other car is a Cadillac...so yeah, I'm a little sore about that.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 17, 2018 14:23:13 GMT -5
That's what I'm saying. I don't want to pretend to know what your dad's thinking or what your relationship is with him, but It sounds like if he actually wanted you to leave and become independent, he wouldn't be tying you down with living expenses and stuff. You're a source of income for him right now.
I don't know what to do about it, but I can tell you that you're actually working and getting shit done. Being a freeloader is a mindset. I mean, fuck, you're paying 400 a month! You could definitely exploit someone else to live somewhere for free if you really didn't want to carry your own weight. It's not like you're getting anything out of this that you couldn't get by splitting a lease on an apartment with a couple of friends.
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TOS
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Post by TOS on Apr 17, 2018 17:43:32 GMT -5
I actually was just asked by a friend if I wanted to move in with someone else for $300 a month...the only thing that's stopping me is that my dad will actually lose the house if I go...at least, that's what he has told me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 17:51:21 GMT -5
Yer dad is a selfish cunt and full of shit from the sound of it. If your $400 a month is the only thing keeping a roof over his head, maybe he should get rid of his second car.
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TOS
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Post by TOS on Apr 17, 2018 19:20:56 GMT -5
While I'd rather not think of him in those words necessarily...I agree that he should get rid of the Mercedes if his owning it is reliant on my income.
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Post by Justince on Apr 17, 2018 20:44:00 GMT -5
I actually was just asked by a friend if I wanted to move in with someone else for $300 a month...the only thing that's stopping me is that my dad will actually lose the house if I go...at least, that's what he has told me. How is that your problem? It's starting to make sense why he is giving you such shit about you money issues, his are probably worse. You've got to live your own life. I say take up with your friend, you'll be far happier.
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