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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 11:36:36 GMT -5
It's hard, particularly on days like this with a fucking Nor'Easter going on outside. But the internet pisses me off, and I seriously would like to get away from it. I don't know how it became this thing that we're constantly on. But even in the old days, before widely defused internet access, I would play games. I'm not sure if the internet is the same kind of escapism. As a matter of fact, I want to escape from it. It's funny, reality is the escapism from virtual reality. When it in the past, it probably would have been the other way around. There's a lot of irony in regards to the dynamic of the internet. Despite the fact that you're communicating with an unlimited amount of people, it feels very isolating. Despite the fact that you have access to unlimited information, you're bombarded with lies and falsehoods.
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BattleKorbi
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Post by BattleKorbi on Mar 7, 2018 13:22:37 GMT -5
Stop reading my mind ffs Yeah, I am kinda planning to get a "detox" ever since I said what I said in that thread yesterday. Just... log off all social media, for 30 days or something, and just be myself. Internet and online gaming toxicate me so badly; I never get pissed off nor do I feel angry in real life (except in some rare cases), but I can count the days I had been on the internet without feeling bad this year on my one hand. And it is all for the reasons mentioned above (and some others). I know, "internet is satiric, its not supposed to be taken seriously" and all that bullcrap, but for all of its worth, I would rather log off for a long time; preferably using the internet only to study or to listen to music. I feel better, I am more healthy, I feel less nervous, I feel like myself whenever I am offline; just what is making me stick to this shit? I too, wanna escape. And, if God wills it, I will start the "detox" in a few days; just to get everything sorted out first, and notify everyone I will off the waves for quite a time (a month ffs).
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Post by 40oz on Mar 8, 2018 10:42:02 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know what exactly shifted. I have a really vague recollection of what the internet used to be, and most of those things aren't even gone. But I felt really "free" on it, which I don't feel anymore. I'm much more comfortable talking to people in my normal every day life than I am on the internet. Seriously, I've had conversations with strangers that where they revealed so much more about their personal life in a much shorter time than I get from anyone I come across on the internet. It's weird how things shifted. I grew up in a household where you couldn't say bad words, you were told to shut up a lot, or you'd get grounded for not wanting to go to church. There was a lot of shit that was horribly stifling that I didn't even know was terrible until after I found the internet and heard that there were other people across the country suffering the same problems as I was. Then we could finally be free to be who we want to be on the internet.
Now things have gone full circle where everyone from every part of the social circles have bled into every aspect of the internet. Now you have to be careful that family and employers don't google your name, or that you say something you actually feel that might possibly be hurtful to others. Not at the risk of actually hurting someone's feelings (because then you can actually work it out with that person), but for the angry mobs that will ruin you just because there's nothing else here to be excited about. What the internet was useful for isn't really the same thing anymore. Somehow the same feeling of being smothered by other people's agendas has resurfaced in a new form.
This forum has changed my opinion a little bit, as you can see by how often I post and make threads here. I think this place is enough of an off-shoot to not worry too much about speaking for the majority, But I don't really know how I can help people feel the same way I do about it. I really feel like people are scared. They're lurking more often than registering an account or posting, they're choosing their words carefully, they're refraining from posting even if they have something to say. Being able to vent about stuff that pisses you off is very important, and it's useful for everyone to know, even if it's not very popular. No one should be speaking for "doomer boards" here, you should be speaking for yourself.
I might have gone on a tangent here, but I have a feeling that there's something in the air that makes us want to use the internet for voyeurism and not as a means of feeling free to express yourself.
EDIT: After saying all this, I'm trying to imagine when I was 13. When I was feeling like the school system was a prison, that God was probably bullshit, or that our leaders are greedy liars and cheaters (not that my feelings have shifted much since then, but) I'm wondering how it might have felt if I knew someone that was just like "LET LOOSE, TELL ME EVERYTHING YOU FEEL, THERE ARE NO LIMITS AND NO JUDGMENT HERE, ALL YOUR WILDEST IDEAS ARE WELCOME" I probably would still have been really shy.
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Post by agent6 on Mar 8, 2018 15:05:08 GMT -5
I agree as well, it's certainly not what it used to be, but when everyone has access to the internet nowadays it was kinda to be expected. I still remember the better times and when internet was a nicer and more pleasant place to be on, which has changed but great forums can still be found. And rotten apples can be found anywhere but oh well.
It's still an escape from this limiting everyday existence, but the magic that was once is no longer there. These being said, on a few specific points others made and my takes:
- "I'm much more comfortable talking to people in my normal every day life than I am on the internet."
The opposite is still true for me, and likely still will be for quite a while. I love talking about myself and debating various topics online, although I will also admit that sometimes I feel like I just have no business in participating in any, but usually still do it anyway because I can't really refrain from posting, or even want to honestly, even if it's unappreciated. Only very few people seem to care about what I say or even about my presence there itself, thus it's more like writing and staying for nothing. That's not to say I crave for approval, recognition, acceptance or attention, but I think the point I'm trying to make is very obvious without needing to go into further detail.
I feel this way because I find the internet a "safer" place to be open about yourself, primarily because there's lots of different people with different views and preferences to discuss around, and a general openness, after all why would you join or create a forum if you don't want to talk about anything, it totally defeats its purpose. Revealing who knows what about yourself also has no real consequences, which, depending on the circumstances might be a huge plus. Sure, you might get a few people hate you or make some enemies, sometimes the situation escalating to the extreme, but it will not have any real impact on your life, whereas revealing something more intimate (well not quite, maybe, but can't think of a more suitable word right now) might drastically change your life. Hell there's only a few but personal and highly important things I keep to myself in real life and many times online too unless I know there aren't morons around, because I'm well aware that coming out of the closet with these will likely have a huge impact on my life, and that is not something I want.
- "Now you have to be careful that family and employers don't google your name"
Yeah... and since everybody has this stinking shit called FB + other means/websites/services at their disposal, employers in particular from what I managed to find out really do use them a lot and dissect whatever they find there. May, or may not matter, depending on what's to be found there.
- "They're lurking more often than registering an account or posting, they're choosing their words carefully, they're refraining from posting even if they have something to say."
Probably to avoid making fools of themselves, which happens very often on the internet, but also because people are very judgemental and hostile to different point of views, and the moment they read something they don't like they can become incredibly obnoxious. In real life this usually has much more unpleasant repercurssions. Now of course, completing what I previously said, that doesn't mean one should always be too open to anyone or anywhere, sometimes being silent works best.
So, for me (or us actually), the internet itself and our perception of it has changed a lot over the years, yet, the core ideas/principles are still there, but now buried. It's like a double edged sword, sooner or later what we used to love was going to make its negative consequences known or just change, and for the worst.
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